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wilsontc
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posted September 01, 2006 05:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fellow astro-travelers,

When we are learning astrology, we may start out looking at aspect patterns...but we can quickly become confused with the long definitions and explanations of each pattern. Fortunately, aspect patterns are easy to understand...if we keep in mind where the aspect pattern FOCUSES the energy in the chart.

If you have any questions, let me know...for the rest of you, take a look in your chart, find the pattern that matches the picture, see where your energy is focused, and let us know about it! It's that simple! Whoever said astrology was difficult!

Simplistically,

Tim

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luisbunuel
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posted September 20, 2006 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for luisbunuel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Tim - what's the difference between a yod and a boomerang?
Thanks.

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wilsontc
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posted September 20, 2006 03:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
luis,

A Boomerang is a Yod with an opposition to the focus of the Yod. The effect is to "throw" the focus of the Yod to the other side of the chart...or, in other words, to "boomerang" teh focus of the Yod.

Yodally boomeranging,

Tim

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Hexxie
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posted September 22, 2006 11:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

My chart is an exact Cradle with a T-Square inside it!

My guess is that the focus of the Cradle is my Uranus/Venus conjunction in my 5th house. This would be interesting if correct because my Uranus/Venus conjunction is also the focus of my T-Square

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wilsontc
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posted September 22, 2006 12:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hexxie,

You're right about the two aspects! The challenge of the cradle is the focus is all on the "cradle side". So EVERYTHING on the right side of the line between Saturn and Moon is the focus...which is mostly the right (others) side of the chart. This could lead to only focusing on "others"...and not paying attention to yourself. It could also lead to ignoring Jupiter (expansion, also opportunity) energy in your life. The challenge is to be aware of the Jupiter opportunities...which are strong since Jupiter is focused in the 12th house, which it traditionally rules. This position of Jupiter was also referred to as "being born under a lucky star" (Jupiter)!

Opportunistically,

Tim

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AcousticGod
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posted September 26, 2006 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isn't the cradle side the bottom of the cradle (which is Sun/Pluto and Neptune)?

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posted September 26, 2006 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have any cool aspect patterns in my chart.

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wilsontc
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posted September 26, 2006 01:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AG,

The Cradle is a focus on half the chart. In Hexxie's case this is EVERYTHING that is not Jupiter in her chart. So all the planets and houses to the right of the Sun-Moon opposition are the focus. The challenge is the person can focus SO much on this half of the chart that they can become half a person in some sense. These people need to be aware of and work on issues on the "other" half of their chart.

I looked at your chart and you DO have an Easy Opposition focused on Uranus (friends, also technology)...so that is pretty cool!

Explaining,

Tim

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posted September 26, 2006 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh! So I do. Not really sure what that's about, but I read that it's a nicer aspect. Does Uranus ease the tension of the Saturn/Mercury opposition?

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wilsontc
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posted September 27, 2006 01:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AG,

Exactly! That's why it's called an EASY opposition...compared to the more challenging energy of the T-square.

Agreeing,

Tim

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shirty
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posted September 27, 2006 08:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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since Jupiter is focused in the 12th house, which it traditionally rules

Tim is this a typo or is it some astrological history I am completely unaware of? I thought it ruled the 9th house??

Clarification! Maybe I have something interesting to learn.

shirty

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wilsontc
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posted September 27, 2006 06:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
shirty,

The most important word here is "traditionally". BEFORE Neptune was discovered, something had to rule Pisces. And that "something" was Jupiter. Quite often astrologers will refer to "traditional" rulers to indicate sign rulers BEFORE the discovery of Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto.

Traditionally,

Tim

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posted September 27, 2006 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting, a Boomerang is like a "return to sender" sort of aspect... does this mean I should ignore it?

I have a Boomerang, with the focus of the Yod at a 25.26 Taurus Chiron forming one quincunx to a 25.28 Sag Neptune and the other quincunx to a 27.47 Libra Pluto, and the Boomerang effect coming from a 22.42 Scorpio Venus.

I guess the 02.21 degree quincunx of Chiron/Pluto is a bit wide.

Any good websites with more info on the Yod/Boomerang?

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Dulce Luna
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posted September 28, 2006 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All I have us this easy opposition with my merc,neptune, and the moon. My moon eases the tension.

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wilsontc
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posted September 28, 2006 01:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
web,

I think it may be best NOT ignore a boomerang focus on Scorpio (transformation) modifying Venus (physical, also desires/relationships)...especially with Chiron (where you are wounded and need to be healed) involved.

On the rebound,

Tim

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wilsontc
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posted September 28, 2006 01:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dulce,

Thanks for sharing how your Easy Opposition works!

Appreciatively,

Tim

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posted September 28, 2006 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim-

Maybe I'm not understanding the meaning, but it seems like a Boomerang nullifies a Yod.

This "Boomerang" stuff is completely new to me, so please tell me if my understanding is wrong, but it sounds like it rejects the Yod's energy, making it a dead aspect.

Therefore shouldn't the entire Boomerang aspect be ignored?

Or is it that my Yod's energy (Taurus) is then focused to the opposition (Scorpio)?

Should it be interpreted as a Yod to Scorpio, not Taurus?

Thanks a bunch.

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wilsontc
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posted September 28, 2006 05:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
web,

Ah! NOW I understand what you were saying earlier! No, the Boomerang does not "nullify" the Yod but instead, reFOCUSes it. So, instead of the focus being at the normal Yod-end (where the two quincunxes meet), the focus is now on the opposite end (between the sextile). If you take a look at the picture, you will see how this works.

Understanding and explaining,

Tim

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Randall
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posted February 16, 2007 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 29, 2007 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi All...and thanks, Randall, for getting me in!

Tim, I have enjoyed your posts, and humor immensely!

Hi Lalalinda! So this is where you hang out!

Quick question regarding a T-Square in synastry. This would obviously be energies that won't easily flow...but what I don't get is how to interpret the aspects.

For example...

the "apex" or whatever you call the pointy end is my Moon in Gemini. The other 2 points are: his stellium in Virgo of sun, Merc, Uran, and Pluto. On the final end we have 2...depending on allowable orb. His Chiron (Pisces) is 6 degrees away in one direction, and his Vesta, my Merc are in the other.

I know the focal point would be my moon, but what does this mean exactly? I think what I have the hardest time with are the interps. I know the house definitions, the planets, the signs, etc. I can't see the forest for the trees (or did I get that backwards?)

Blame my Merc in Pisces!

Speaking of houses...when looking at a T Square in synastry...whose houses do you consider...both?

My moon is in my 8th (sighs), his stellium is in my 11th, and Chiron/Vesta in my 5th.

Thanks so much!

Excited to be here!

8th

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wilsontc
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posted October 30, 2007 12:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon,

You asked:

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Quick question regarding a T-Square in synastry

Thanks for the compliment! Personally, I don't look at aspect patterns in a synastry. The synastry is a chart shared by two people, so no one "owns" the energy in the chart. As a result, each person experiences individual aspects in the chart, but does not experience a "pattern" in the aspects. However, any stress on the Moon (home, also emotions) in a synastry chart indicates the Moon person is emotionally stressed.

Non-aspected,

Tim

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posted October 30, 2007 06:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Tim,

Thanks for responding! Okey dokey...let me try natal geometry. (Persistent little bugger, ain't I?)

Kite: Sun Pisces/Chiron (5th house), Jupiter/MC Cancer (9th), Neptune Scorpio (2nd), Uranus/Pluto Virgo (11th). I know the focal point would be Pluto/Uran in the 11th. Again...I'm lost in the interpretations and needing to understand how the energies blend in these patterns.

Thanks so much!

Geometrically challenged,
8th

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wilsontc
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posted October 30, 2007 01:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon,

You said:

quote:
the focal point would be [Virgo modifying] Pluto/Uran [focused] in the 11th [house]

So the energy is focused on:
Virgo modifying Pluto focused in the 11th house

Virgo modifying Uranus focused in the 11th house

which is:

Virgo (daily work, also analysis) modifying Pluto (transformation) focused in the 11th house (friends, also restructuring)

Virgo (daily work, also analysis) modifying Uranus (friends, also restructuring) focused in the 11th house (friends, also restructuring)

Now let's see what sort of "repeats" in the keywords we have:
Restructuring - 3 times
Analysis - 2 times

So this has something to do with both restrutcuring and analyzing things. And now we just need to add back in "transformation". So there is a LOT of restructuring going on, which is analyzed and used as a way to transform the existing social order (i.e., "friends"). The only challenge is...how best to USE this energy?

Asking questions,

Tim

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posted October 30, 2007 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Tim!

I can definitely see how this energy works in my life. I have a tendency to meet up with people who end up transforming me or vice versa. I think that Pluto/Uranus energy gets bored with superficial stuff...

So....how would those other energies that form the water trine effect the focal point?

Each sign, planet, aspect, etc becomes a part of that picture with astro geometry...correct?

Answering your question with more questions,
8th

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