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posted October 22, 2004 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gooober     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi everyone!!
i was recently asked to do a research paper for my english class at university, the topic being anything i picked so long as i had an opinion on it and that opinion was arguable.
so naturally i chose astrology,since it was the first thing to come to my mind, and also because it's one of my favourite subjects in the i went up to my english teacher
after class and said ' professor, i want to do my research paper on astrology, my opinion being that it is a valid science and art'. he smiled, raised his virgo eyebrows in critical appraisal
(i'm pretty sure he's a virgo,or at least has heavy virgo influence in his charts) and said 'and how are you going to prove that?' i smiled back and said 'well,i'm going to use numerous books
and websites as secondary research material,and maybe take a few well-known public figures and show how accurately they potray their sun sign charecteristics'. 'sounds ineteresting' was his answer.
so i wrote up the proposed topic and included another one of my brilliant uranus ideas in it. and that idea was to draw up a questionnare on attitudes towards love,money,family,etc and get people
(many people) of different sun signs to fill it up, then divide it into twelve sections (according to the sun sign of course) and show how most people will tend to possess 8 out of 10 charecteristics of their
sun sign.this questionnaire was what caught my eng prof's interest the most.'i really like your idea of the questionnaire you are going to use' he said, 'because i'd like to see you prove it' he ended with a smile.
i smiled back,but inwardly my aries ascendant was already bristling with indignation at his skepticism.but my aries asc and sag moon also love challenges,and this certainly was one!and here's where you all come in
my fellow knowflakes...i can't do this alone,i need help!what do i need help with?well i was thinking my knowflake friends could help me think up questions for the questionnaire...and also help me out by filling it in
when i post it on the web :blush:. it's all in the name of astrology my friends!i hope i'm not asking too much
so...looking forward to your responses..

love n peace...


p.s. i've also posted this topic on two other forums 'free astrology course' and 'for the pilgrim's progress', just to mak esure no one misses it..hope randall doesn't mind..

the rain goes pitter patter,pitter patter..
my brain is all in a scatter...
you don't mind?
then i guess it won't matter ;)

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posted October 22, 2004 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gooober     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
p.s.2: sorry for the rambling long post

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posted October 26, 2004 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I still am not very computer literate so you'll have to excuse me. I did find some stuff on Proving Astrology, at a website called Urania. What kind of questionaire?

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posted October 27, 2004 05:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gooober     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
la,you don have to be computer literate!i was hoping you could help me think up questions like how someone reacts to financial crisis,like aries would say
'tomorrow will be better for sure' and cancer would be like 'sob,sob my whole world is over now'...things like that you know..

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posted November 10, 2004 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found this and thought you might be interested

Astrology is not a religion and is just a study of life, like physics or psychology. Nevertheless, because it deals in archetypal truths, shows unvarying cycles and can register major events in individual lives and national history, astrology is closer than other disciplines to describing "the will of God". Its potential depth of meaning and essential sacredness is lost today when it is reduced to nothing but sun sign columns and party gossip. It may also be that only new insights of the religious mind can help astrology resolve the eternal problems it presents with regard to fate and freewill - which are perhaps two sides of the same thing.
Astrology does not claim to be the answer to everything but it can provide striking insights and clues to many things and there are few aspects of life to which it cannot be applied



For most of the Christians , a "Christian astrology" cannot exist; the very idea is a contradiction in terms (oxymoron is the fashionable word). Yet Christianity begins with signs in the heavens and the visit of Wise Men or Magi (literally, astrologers) to the Christ child.

"The star went before them until it stopped over the place where the child was." (Matt. 2:9b)

The Bible itself states in its first chapter (Gen.1.14) that the lights in the heavens were put there as "signs" and signs exist to be interpreted. In his answer to Job, God asks him if he can "bring out the signs of the zodiac in their seasons" (Job 38.32).

The origins of Hebrew astrology are popularly attributed to Abraham or even Noah though it is more likely that it should be traced to the Jewish exile in Babylon. Possibly at that time the subject entered through the influence of biblical figures like Daniel, who had access to the pagan wisdom, or Ezekiel whose vision of the four creatures around the throne has profound relations to the astrology of the elements and the four fixed signs.

And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years, . . ." (Genesis 1:14)

God told the Israelites: "Let the children of Israel also keep the passover at his appointed season." (Numbers 9:2)
How were they supposed to know when the "season" of Passover had come? By watching for the Full Moon.


According to Islam, Astrology is the scientific study of stars for determining and fixing time division such as months and seasons and directions.In modern times, this is lawful because it is perceived by the senses and fixed calculations, which can help determine the times of prescribed prayers, and other religious duties that should be observed at certain times.

Allh has informed us of His intended purpose for the stars: to guide mankind in the right path and to drive away evil satanic forces that might disrupt one' life in this world of ours.

"And the Sun runneth on unto a resting place for him .That is the measuring of the mighty, the wise. And for the Moon, we have appointed mensions till she returns like an old shrivelled palm leaf. It is not for the sun to overtake the Moon, nor doth the nights outstrips the day. They float each in an orbit." (Surah X X X VI. verse 38,39,and 40). These verse prove the well ordained and well knit mechanism of Allah's creation.

At another place He says, "He is who appointed the Sun a splendour and the Moon a light and measured for her stages that he might know the number of the years, and the reckoning. Allah has created not (all) that save in truth.

We find that in the Holy Quran, in several verses, Almighty has asked and encouraged mankind to look into and ponder over the objects of his creation, including the heaven, the stars and the Moon, in orders the understand his signs and thereby his supreme might, glory and greatness.

Mention in regard to Astrology or the influence of planets and stars is found in the Holy Quran in connection with Pharaoh, who was warned of the birth of Prophet Moses.

As a consequence of the prediction by the court astrologers of King Namrood who Predicted birth of Prophet Ibrahim so much so that they predicted accurately the conception of Prophet Ibrahim in spite of the best efforts of the King Namrood to prevent it.



Vedic Astrology or Indian Astrology or Hindu astrology, is a system that originated in ancient India, and was documented by sages in the Vedic scriptures.Also known as "Jyotish" -- the science of light, Vedic astrology deals with astral light patterns that are thought to determine our destiny.

It is a little known fact that the ancient maharishis from the Vedic era of India (c. 3000 B.C.) were also master astrologers. Parashara, considered the grandfather of modern Vedic Astrology, was the grandson of the Rishi Vasishta, and the father of Veda Vyasa, who compiled the Vedas, the Bhagavad Gita, and many other scriptures of the Vedic tradition. Throughout the centuries of India's long history, countless saints, scholars, and sages have studied and practiced the sacred science of astrology.

The basic premise of this Vedic astrology is that all things are linked. Your karma or fortune is determined by a predestined cosmic design. You are a soul incarnating in a body at a very specific time and place, and your life is a reflection of the greater whole into which you are born just as flowers bloom at certain times, say during spring time, when all conditions are perfectly congenial. So is the case with our births on this planet.

In Jyotish, the main item is your chart. It's a map of the planets in the signs of the zodiac. Charts are cast based on an exact moment at an exact place on earth. Therefore, the moment you were born and the place you were born has a chart, and that is your "birth chart" or "natal chart".

Eg; A Natal Chart

By reading the chart of the heavens for the time and place of your birth, claim vedic astrologers, they can know much about you. The positions of the planets in the real star-based zodiac are taken and your "dashas" (predictive timeline) are arranged. Your Vedic chart will most likely reflect your real life and your dashas are probably operating the way they should. The Vedic astrologer looks at these planets, signs and house placements in your chart and can "see" your personality, as well as life events and possibilities - both the good and the bad times in your life. The dashas are then used to determine "when" the events will unfold in the life.

Through Vedic Astrology we can discover the underlying unity of existence, the cosmic connection between the macrocosm and the microcosm. It can be a doorway to mystical awakening, a window into the Infinite, a pathway to Self-knowledge. It can be all of these things for you, if you choose to become a seeker of wisdom.



Zoroastrian astrological system is the original source of all subsequent currents and tendencies in astrology. The calendar cycle includes 32 years, in which each year has a certain symbol connected to one of the animals with a totem. The totem has certain symbolics and properties given to the person who has been born in the given year. Every totem has an antitotem, warning about devil temptations, offered to people of the given year of birth.

Zoroasto Horoscopes

Owl - 1904, 1936, 1968, 2000
Falcon - 1905, 1937, 1969, 2001

Deer - 1906, 1938, 1970, 2002
Ram - 1907, 1939, 1971, 2003

Mongoose - 1908, 1940, 1972, 2004
Wolf - 1909, 1941, 1973, 2005

Stork - 1910, 1942, 1974, 2006
Spider - 1911, 1943, 1975, 2007

2003- The Year of the Ram

Children, who are born in this sign, are under special supervision of their ancestors who left for a better world. They consider their family as somewhat holy and inviolable. People of the Ram totem can't be outside of patrimonial, family, or national traditions. Big masses involvement in their affairs is most important for them. However, they are quiet and obedient. It is necessary to mention that this sign is a miserable sheep without energy of masses. It needs to be directed. People of this sign should be connected with earth to sow the good seed. People of the Ram sign are neither fat nor thin; they tend to be a bit popeyed with curling hair and a little bit poking teeth.

This sign anti-totem is the person not knowing his antecedents and traditions. He is the one desecrating his family and ancestors, marauder, and cosmopolitan, who absorbed all the worst that exists in his ancestry. This person considers all people around him to be stupid sheep, and the only person who deserves respect is him.


What the Bible says..

"He determines the
number of the
stars and calls
them each by
name" (Psalm 147:4).

"And God said,
'Let there be
lights in the expanse
of the sky to
separate the day
from the night,
and let them
serve as signs
to mark seasons
and days and years,..."
(Genesis 1:14)

"There is a time
for everything, a
season for every
activity under heaven:
a time to be born
and a time to die,
a time to plant
and a time to uproot,
." (Ecl. 3:1-2)

Quran Quotes

And indeed We have adorned the nearest heaven with lamps. Srah 67: yah 5.

And landmarks (sign posts during the day) and by the stars (during the night), they (mankind) guide themselves. Srah 16: yah 16.

... and We have made such lamps as missiles to drive away the Shayatn (devils). Srah 67: yah 5.

"Say (O Muhammad) : Behold what is in the heaven and the earth! But revelations and warnings avail not folk who will not perceive." (Surah Yunus : verse 101).

He detaileth the revelations for people who have knowledge" (Surah X verse 5).

The Vedic system of astrology originated in India over 5,000 years ago.

Vedic Astrology is related to astral patterns that are believed to shapes one's destiny.

Natal charts or birth charts are the sole basis upon which a person's future rests according to Vedic Astrologers.

Vedic astrology differs from Western or Tropical astrology mainly in that it uses the fixed zodiac as opposed to the moving zodiac.

Vedic Astrology has six main branches: Astronomy, Mathematics, Birth Charts, Mundane Predictions, Auspicious Timings, and Omens .

Lord Krishna states: "Oh Arjuna, the Lord dwells in the heart of all beings, and by His Maya causes all beings to revolve as though mounted on a machine." (Bhagavad Gita, 18.61).

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posted November 11, 2004 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gooober     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks lal!that was interesting.i looked up islam and astrology before,but not the other ones...
i'm working on my questionnaire..i'll be putting it up soon so that you guys can tell me which questions to keep and which ones to edit out

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posted May 06, 2005 05:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm writin here after a long time...
just to add to the point of hinduism and astrology...
when i was formally takin a course in vedic astrology..the first point that was told by my Guru is to follow
"KARMA VAD"...which means..believe in doin karma..that's actions..coz without that even ur exalted planets will not help u....

i checked out this website after a long time..i started leaning formal astrology from this with the help of jupiter which was transitin in my 9th house(this is accordin to vdic astro)..made me go deeper n deeper....

Only hard work & Talent will get u nowhere,
but right decisions at the right time will.....

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posted May 09, 2005 04:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

just some qs that come to mind,

1. extrovert vs. introvert
2. how do i act when i get mad? (scream, yell, silent treatment etc.)
3. am i vengeful? do i remember things for a long time?
4. am i detail oriented?
5. do i think of things in terms of me or other?
6. money is to be saved or spent?
7. i am willing to compromise with my lover, or, i expect my lover to compromise for me?
8. prioritize these : pure love, lots of money, pure power.
9. prioritize: friends, family, significant other, education.
10. my attitude towards change is ?
11. my definition of love is?
12. rules are made to be broken,true or false?
13. prioritize: honesty, success, friendship, love, stability, harmony
14. which best describes u?
i feel, i do, i am, i think, (etc.)

there are just so many. u would have to use some that would primarily distinguish cardinal, fixed, and mutable, and fire/earth/air/water.

jus some ideas,


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posted May 09, 2005 04:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
goober i would also encourage, that u explain in detail in ur project, about the chart and how everyone is a combination of the planetary influences, aspects, and houses occupied in the chart.

in ur questionnaire u might find that some ppl answer qs based on their stelliums, moon signs, or ascendants moreso than sun sign,

i would say *definitely* ask for their date of birth and not just sign. this will help you classify them at least along the three crucial dimensions: sun, moon, and asc.


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posted October 30, 2008 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

"Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia." Charles Schultz

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