posted November 23, 2004 12:18 PM              

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If you were born between the 1st and 15th of December then your star sign is not Sagittarius as you thought, but Ophiuchus. Ophiuchus is the thirteenth constellation through which the sun passes, and isn't included on astrological calendars!

The zodiac is a strip of sky where the sun, moon and most planets are found. Any star atlas will show the zodiac divided into 13 constellations of various sizes. The 13th constellation is Ophiuchus, between Scorpius and Sagittarius. Besides these 13, there are 75 more constellations covering the rest of the sky.

However, astrologers divide the zodiac into 12 equal parts, called signs. Each sign is named after a constellation - but there the resemblance ends. The signs in fact have little to do with the real sky, and are inventions of convenience. And Ophiuchus, which should be the 13th sign, plus the other 75 constellations, are simply left out.

Why the star signs do not match the sky: And if the 13th sign isn't alarming enough, the 12 zodiac signs you did know about don't match the actual positions of the constellations! The reason is that while the earth spins once in 24 hours, it also has other movements. Just like a spinning top, the earth has a slow wobble (called precession as it spins. It’s really slow - taking 26,000 years to do one wobble. This causes the Zodiac constellations to drift through the sky. The Egyptian and Greek astrologers 4,000 years ago chose signs that more-or-less matched the constellations. But today, because of precession, the moving constellations have left the signs far behind. Today they are seriously out of step (by about 1 sign).

Compare any astronomical star calendar with the zodiac one, and you'll see the following:

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Wow ~ I had no clue about this! See what happens when you Google 'Sagittarius'!

I skimmed over the article. What do you think about this lalalinda / everyone? Why was it left out?

posted November 23, 2004 01:41 PM              

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An ancient constellation, representing a man encoiled by a serpent or snake. The Greeks identified the man as Aesculapius, doctor on board with the Argonauts. He became a mythical healer and forerunner of Hippocrates, with reputed powers including the ability to raise the dead. The serpent he holds is a symbol of this power, since snakes are seemingly reborn every year when they shed their skin.

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Nitey nite hon

posted January 19, 2005 10:59 PM            

People born under this sign are natuarally empathetic. They tend to see everything in terms of illness and health, and they focus on wellness in others and in themselves, both real ills and imagined. They have the potential to be great healers of the mind, body, and soul, and once they tap into this wealth of knowledge, they let go of the hypochondria.

They will learn this by learning to listen, which is quite an effort when you are a great talker like the serpent-bearer. People really respond to how the serpent bearer conveys information. She can speak to anyone on their level, with clarity and pithiness. She can know what to say to cast a light into the darkness, and can make a great therapist or astrologer.

Ophiucus is endowed with both healing and dramatic powers, and people born under this sign make great actors. They absorb characters as though they are an extension of themselves, and their natural empathy makes it easy for them to throw themselves into the drama with abandon. Sometimes they can empathize a little too well, and will take on the pain of others to their own detriment. They need to work out how much they can carry without burdening their souls to the point of collapse. This is not an easy lesson, as the serpent-bearer's natural impulse is to absorb pain.

Their kindness is often taken advantage of by more ruthless souls, but it is useless to tell them to stop being so naive, they expect to be taken advantage of every now and then.

Often they have some disturbance in their childhood and have an unusual upbringing like the mythical Asclepius. This may not be losing their mother, but some unusual circumstance that they had to grow and learn from. Their preoccupation with illness can lead them from wonder diet to magic potion, and they especially enjoy indulging in naturopathic healing and massage. They are always trying to get others to follow their lead-- they live by the creed that you have nothing without your health.

--from The Complete Book of Astrology, by Caitlin Johnstone

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This certainly rang true for me in many ways. I'd be interesting in hearing about others who were born during this time period. Thanks, Sheaa, for bringing this up! (Oh, and you may be interested in knowing that the dates my book gives are Nov 29-Dec 17)

posted January 22, 2005 09:18 PM            

The truth is, I am concerned about whether or not studying astrology is a sin (not that I am a "Christian," so to speak... I'm still trying to find my truth.) But so far the things I have read claim that astrology is a sin based on the false assumption that those who study astrology look only to astrology for guidance and believe everything they see without consulting their own higher self, thereby making them slaves to astrology. But I think that most people who know anything about the subject know that, as we hear frequently on the boards here, that the stars indicate, they do not compel. Many who judge those who practice astrology make no reference to or consideration for free will, which most of us feel is a huge part of the overall picture.

Just my two cents. Anyone else want to share?

posted January 24, 2005 06:58 AM              

Thank you for bumping this! How very cool - are Nov 29-Dec 17, huh? So I may be an Ophiuchus (the correct wording?) after all

Apologies for not getting back to you sooner, but have been so busy recently trying to find a new job and flat! I will read it through properly later on, thanks again,

posted January 24, 2005 01:30 PM              

It's good. Things were a bit rocky for a while, but it's all a biiiiiig learning curve! I've taken the positives and trying to move forward with that.

I have to go catch a train now, but will be back tomorrow!

posted January 25, 2005 12:10 PM              

Thanks for pointing out that book for me ~ one to get I think.

In regards to the practice of astrology. Just like when people ask, is my chart good or bad? I believe it is neither good or bad - it just is. Astrology speaks for itself, and intricately weaves in and out of our lives. Future I think you're spot on when you say;

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the stars indicate, they do not compel.

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It exists - like lexigrams - all the information is there, it's just whether you choose to see it.

So interesting, Future - do you have the Complete Book of Astrology?

posted February 01, 2005 01:05 PM              

What a great description you have there!
Yes I agree, studying a different format would induce all kinds of chaos I do find new information interesting though.

Take care,
Sheaa

posted February 02, 2005 01:46 PM            

*looks around to make sure no one's listening...*

posted February 03, 2005 12:38 PM              

Another one;

The site I got the last one from is interesting.

It shows the origins of the Cherubim symbol; http://www.mt.net/~watcher/newun.html

posted August 03, 2007 12:23 AM              

Yes, there are lots of problems about sticking in a 13th sign into the astrological Zodiac. I don't know of any astrologers who are trying to do this: 12 signs works for all the astrologers I know!

Working well,