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peachbeigeblue
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posted June 04, 2012 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read Ami Ann talking about Venus-Chiron conjunctions. I was wondering if me having this conjunction opposite Uranus, Neptune, and Saturn may be way the person I so badly want to be with is particularly an extremely awful situation that would require a lot of strength of his part to get over for us to be together. He has Chiron conjuct his Sun in his 7th house. I'm just wondering because something you said hit home.

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posted June 04, 2012 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why don't you research this and put all the info on this thread.

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posted June 04, 2012 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this one too, Peach. It is a duet in my case. It is not very easy. I know Venus rules your DC so this describes both you and your partner.

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posted June 04, 2012 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you.
I found this explanation and a lot more information on this site
http://www.dancingwiththestarsastrology.com/report.htm

"Chiron conjunct Venus
Natal Chiron Aspects
Chiron-conjunct-Venus initially indicates a deep longing, a deep sense of being cut off from close personal relationship, a feeling that there is not enough love to fill the void within us.This aspect confers enormous empathy and sympathy for others in emotional need.The impulse to try to rescue others, to wrap them in cotton wool, so to speak, is highly evident here.
As we attend to our Wounds, blockages and unresolved issues, this aspect will increasingly give us an awareness of the Love that is within us and around us in our lives, but that we mostly do not see or acknowledge.In this way, we are increasingly able to share our Love with others in a way that 1) does not seek to rescue them, protect them and/or 'fix' their lives, 2) does not necessitate emotional dependence on others and 3) does not involve trying to plug our umbilical cords into others.Ultimately, we will merely seek to Love Unconditionally, knowing that Love is the greatest Healer.
This aspect can indicate a high degree of Healing ability and focus and is a welcome addition to the charts of those interesting in pursuing Healing as part of their life's path and purpose.
In any case, whether we call it Healing or not, those with this aspect will have a Healing effect upon those they are around and upon those that they share their innermost feelings with.It may be in a verbal form.It may be in a musical form.It may be in some other form altogether.Whatever the case may be, these people will have a certain inexplicable attractiveness that compels us to wish to be around them and/or their creations and expressions.In short, they reflect our own Woundedness and the possibility for our own Healing.Having said this, however, being around certain types with this aspect can become high maintenance after a time.
Noted persons that share this conjunction include Jacques Louis Demy (French film director, renowned for his romantic films), Marilyn Monroe, Kurt Cobain (Nirvana), Judith Durham (the Seekers), Henry Winkler, John Williamson (gentle Australian country songwriter and singer), Burt Bacharach, and Kevin Kline.The last three have occultations of Chiron and Venus."

It also has a Chiron opposite Uranus natal description as well.

Hera - how would you say this aspect has affected your love life?

I would say that description I posted rings a little true for me

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posted June 04, 2012 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The description rings true for me too. It indeed makes me feel like there isn't enough love for me out there. It my case, these two are unaspected - they only makes aspects to themselves and they're on IC so it is deeply rooted in my subconscious. For everything Venus, I get Chiron. For everything Chiron, I get Venus also. They always go together like horse and carriage. In my love life, it meant quite a bit of hurting, on both sides , until I truly learned the value of it. For me I guess it comes down to self love - it has to start there because otherwise I will continue to attract difficult, impossible relationships that only make my head and my heart hurt. I did encounter what you described - relationships were always a struggle, either long distance or something came between us. The one that wasn't like that was the most healing one, but I ran away from it (way too young), for the most part I preferred to learn the hard way.

With Chiron touching Venus, one falls for the rejected, the underdog, the downtrodden, we find beauty where other people don't. But most of the times, where we constantly refuse to look is within ourselves for that. By healing other people's pain, we intend to heal our own only it rarely, if ever works that way, this is why the wound remains unhealed. I truly believe, with this aspect, you can overcome it through self love and appreciation. That is where you should start in order to improve your love life.

Your Venus is in Cancer, no?

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posted June 04, 2012 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Pain through relationship. Understanding your link to humanity through relationship. Love tinged with pain. Extreme sensitivity to peace and harmony, and a lack of peace and harmony. Extreme sensitivity to harmony or disharmony in relationships. Extreme sensitivity to your social relationships – where you stand, who likes you, who your friends are and who your enemies are. Extreme sensitivity to issues of beauty and attraction. Extreme sensitivity to art and creativity. Extreme sensitivity to issues of value and worth.

Wounded feelings surrounding your value, worth and self-esteem. Feelings of being unattractive, unloved or unwanted. The pain of rejection in love. The pain of rejection because of your appearance. Being rejected because you’re not popular or pretty enough. Pain surrounding the need to be liked and adored. The dark side of wanting to be seen as beautiful and attractive. Body dysmorphic disorder. Plastic surgery junkies. The wounded feminine. Healing the feminine self. For men, getting in touch with your anima. Overcoming sensitivity concerning your appearance. Learning to like yourself. Realizing that beauty really is more than skin deep. Painful relationships with women. Relationships with women in which sexual competitiveness, envy and jealousy dominate. Inability to tap into your powers of attraction. Learning about the Law of Attraction. Overcoming fears of being alluring and seductive. Learning to flirt. Learning to enjoy the pleasurable side of life.

Dysfunctional relationships with money. Using pleasure as a way not to deal with pain. Using manipulation to get your way. Using charm and seduction as the path of least resistance to get what you want. Using money to heal pain. Trying to use money to buy love. Money can’t buy you love. Money can’t buy happiness. Getting stuff is not the same as getting affection. Becoming aware of overly passive tendencies in relationships. Becoming aware of when you are simply being a mirror for the people in your life. Getting in touch with what you really want and how that acknowledgment might affect your relationships. Becoming a guru or guide through the realm of relationships. Someone who knows the trials of love. Someone who has been through the mill of love. Love is a sore subject. Relationships are a sore subject. Inability to let go of past relationship hurts.

The doors of perception are opened through relationship. Wholeness through accepting and appreciating each relationship in your life and what it has to teach you. Wholeness through making an effort to lessen conflict in the world. Harbingers of peace. Deep insights into the nature of relating to others. Unlocking new doors in relationship. Finding new ways of relating. Discovering within yourself something original upon which to build self-love and self-esteem. Original perceptions about relationships. Deep insights into the creative process. Using art as a way to release pain and trauma. Creativity can be a sore subject. Money can be a sore subject. Artists who feel that their work is never properly valued. Issues with feeling that you are never paid what you are worth. Feeling that you should be financially compensated for your love. Pain centers on feeling appreciated for your creative contribution.

The key to healing is building self-esteem. The key to healing is making peace in relationships. The key to healing is understanding your relationship with money. The key to healing is tapping into your creativity. The key to healing is to make peace with your appearance. The key to healing is focusing on peace. The key to healing is realizing that some relationships can’t be fixed. The key to healing is standing up for your values. The key to healing is accepting yourself and others. The key to healing is enjoying life.


Read more: http://astrofix.net/2011/07/19/venuschiron-aspects/#ixzz1wt47n161


Funny she mentions plastic surgery, my Venus-Chiron are opposite MC and this is what I do. It has been a way for expressing it, but also around the bush.

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posted June 05, 2012 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My venus is 28 Gemini my cancer 3 cancer. Thank you so much for all the time answering. I wanted to answer quickly although I'm very tired. I will reply more tomorrow. I'm happy you became a mod... congrats, girl .

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posted June 05, 2012 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No worries, go get your rest. I'm off to the hospital too. We'll chat later.


Your Venus is on my NN by the way. This should be interesting.

Awww, and thank you!

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posted June 05, 2012 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just read that. Ive never had plastic surgery but I'm very very critical of my appearance. I had an eating disorder and had the Body Dismorphyic Disorder thing.

I also thought it was interesting how she mentioned money to feel better. At one time I was a bit of a shopaholic. I also have confused getting presents with affection. Especially when younger. And possibly with my ex libra bf who would buy me anything.

Interesting!

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posted June 06, 2012 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I have been very critical about my appearance too and also have eating disorders.

I read a little bit about you and your sister and her becoming a model (?) - I might be wrong here, I only skimmed through some threads. But I thought that was interesting because Gemini rules siblings and your Venus is there. I think it is one way for this conjunction manifesting in your life. Modelling is in no way easy and requires a lot of sacrifices. It can be very rewarding too, but damn it's a lot of pressure on a person, IMO.

Can you post your chart, btw? I've seen it but would like a fresh look. Thank you!

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posted June 06, 2012 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh no it was about my sisters' reaction when my parents were talking about how I should have been. I always get attention for my looks and my sister always is labeled the "responsible one." I think a lot of it has to do with my interest in "girly" things such as hair, make-up, etc. When I was 14 and still young my dad suggested I do it. I am tall, was the same height then and was very thin. (now I'm more average with a bigger hips/butt) My mom said no because I was so critical on myself as it was and didnt always eat back then =/ I have been told I should/should have been a model several times bc I'm 5'9 and a half. But ultimately it's not something I would have wanted to do in the first place. Too much pressure

That's interesting you have dealt with eating disorders also. I always thought in my natal it could have been my fixed t square. I know that Demi Lovato girl publically had one and she had a fixed t square as well.

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posted June 06, 2012 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmmm you could be on to something with the siblings. But it's not about my siblings

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posted June 07, 2012 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hera?

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posted June 07, 2012 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi! I'm here! Sorry, I'm a bit of a scatter brain sometimes. Just give me a shoutout if I do my disappearing act . I do that sometimes but I'm always back.

What did you mean by this?

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Hmmmm you could be on to something with the siblings. But it's not about my siblings


Re: eating disorders, could be Moon-Neptune. It also deals with addiction and food can become an addiction. Either way, it can screw up a person's nutrition. Also, you have 6H (health, diets) ruler sq Neptune in the 2nd house which is self-worth. (among others)

Saturn-Venus hard aspect in a woman's chart can make her very critical about her appearance. I think it is tied in a way to your siblings because Sat rules your 3rd.

I see now what you meant about being a shopaholic and confusing presents with affection. Your Venus-Chiron is in the 8th and opp Sat-Uranus-Neptune in the 2nd. I will have to think about that a little bit more.


I am curious, what reaction did your sister have? If you can share. I don't see a clear sibling rivalry there, but some criticism on her part might be there, about your appearance. Is she older than you? Is she your only sibling?

I think you could have easily been a model but I understand why you didn't do it. Moon-Asc aspects are awesome, can make women look very feminine and attractive. Cancers and Cancer risings are the same. Pretty, hourglass figure, magnets to opposite gender. ^_^

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posted June 08, 2012 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know, kids are not hard on themselves per primam intentionem. They learn to become that way. It is learned behavior. You inhabit the parent in you and express it via anything Venus (love, appearance, pleasure, money, art etc), but the parent (critical side of you) had to come from someone in your life - could be a parent, could be someone else. Saturn rules your 3rd and is placed in the 2nd. I know your sister was labeled "the responsible one", sounds like Saturnian to me.
The thing about oppositions is that often the person projects one of the planets onto someone else and expresses the other. If you were Venus then early on, you might have encountered some criticism/disapproval from someone (Saturn) - then you switch roles and become critical yourself because this is what you learned.

I think Saturn amplifies your Venus-Chiron conjunction. I mean, Venus-Chiron people often don't feel worthy of love, there is a big theme with rejection and hurting in love - the opposition with Saturn makes it more critical, also moreso because Venus rules your DC..

Perhaps you feel the need to struggle against obstacles, in order to prove yourself worthy for it and this might be why you attract relationships that require a great deal of work.

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posted June 09, 2012 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey I want to get more into detail but don't want to talk about it here. Add me on facebook?

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posted June 10, 2012 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure! But I took a look and didn't recognize you in the group members.

EDIT: Okay, I think I found you lol. I sent a friendship request.

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posted June 10, 2012 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yup that's me! I will send you a message today

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