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EmpressMendez
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posted June 06, 2012 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello. I'm very new to astrology, but have always been interested in it.

How do you determine who/what are the significators when casting a chart? I never really understood that part.

Also, how can I learn to read horary? Do I start by learning how to read a regular natal chart, if so how can I search the forums to start learning?

Thank you

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Ami Anne
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posted June 06, 2012 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know Horary. You may find help in Personal Readings. Maybe, someone in this Forum knows Horary. I know Lioness likes it! xx

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Hera
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posted June 06, 2012 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, EmpressMendez!

Learning to read natals will not help you with horary, the rules for horary are very different. In fact, knowing natal astrology might get in the way, at least until you get the hang of it. I love horary! It can be very spot on sometimes - well every time, I guess, the rest is probably due to lack of good interpretation on my part.

To answer your question, the Ascendant ruler is always the person asking the question, even though the question might be about someone else. The rest of the players are the rulers of the houses which the question is about. Derivative houses are used frequently in horary, for example:

Will my brother's health improve?

As I said, ruler of the Asc is person asking the question - Me. My brother is the ruler of my 3rd house. His health ruler is the 6th house from my 3rd house - my 8th house and its ruler. You look to the aspects the rulers of these houses make, if they are applying or separating. There is also a thing called dignity and debilitation, those are also used in judging a chart, also if the rulers are in mutual reception (good or bad). Fixed stars, POF are also used. Modern planets are disregarded in classic horary books.

As for learning, you can find introductory lessons on horary online, even a few e-books that are free. One of the classic books is Christian Astrology by William Lilly.

Enjoy!

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EmpressMendez
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posted June 06, 2012 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for explaining, wow. Okay so if I got this correct, your brother is the ruler of your 3rd house because the 3rd house has to do with siblings right? 6th is the house of health

but this part confused me lol "His health ruler is the 6th house from my 3rd house - my 8th house and its ruler"

I have to count 6 spots from the 3rd house? so it would be the 8th house??

Thanks for the e-book suggestion I will definitely have to start looking into it.

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Originally posted by Hera:
Hi, EmpressMendez!

Learning to read natals will not help you with horary, the rules for horary are very different. In fact, knowing natal astrology might get in the way, at least until you get the hang of it. I love horary! It can be very spot on sometimes - well every time, I guess, the rest is probably due to lack of good interpretation on my part.

To answer your question, the Ascendant ruler is always the person asking the question, even though the question might be about someone else. The rest of the players are the rulers of the houses which the question is about. Derivative houses are used frequently in horary, for example:

Will my brother's health improve?

As I said, ruler of the Asc is person asking the question - Me. My brother is the ruler of my 3rd house. His health ruler is the 6th house from my 3rd house - my 8th house and its ruler. You look to the aspects the rulers of these houses make, if they are applying or separating. There is also a thing called dignity and debilitation, those are also used in judging a chart, also if the rulers are in mutual reception (good or bad). Fixed stars, POF are also used. Modern planets are disregarded in classic horary books.

As for learning, you can find introductory lessons on horary online, even a few e-books that are free. One of the classic books is Christian Astrology by William Lilly.

Enjoy!



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Hera
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posted June 07, 2012 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
Thanks for explaining, wow. Okay so if I got this correct, your brother is the ruler of your 3rd house because the 3rd house has to do with siblings right? 6th is the house of health

but this part confused me lol "His health ruler is the 6th house from my 3rd house - my 8th house and its ruler"

I have to count 6 spots from the 3rd house? so it would be the 8th house??

Thanks for the e-book suggestion I will definitely have to start looking into it.


Yes. If I would have asked about MY health, it would be my 6H ruler. But I asked about my brother's health - which is HIS 6th house. Basically you take my 3rd house, which becomes his 1st house and you count 6 houses from it - that's how you get to the 8th house.

This is the principle of derivative houses. Glad you find it interesting! Let me know if I can help you further.

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