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posted September 02, 2012 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for just me     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know little of the second house, probably the most I know about it is that it's the house that rules finances and it's rulers are taurus and venus.

I've heard having certain signs or planets there means that is the way you will earn money or the career you will earn money through. I've also heard that the second house shows how you will survive through life?

Can someone elaborate on the meaning of the second house and what the second house is?

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posted September 02, 2012 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is the material world i.e things you own and the building blocks of life, as well as self esteem, as you "own" that, too.

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posted September 04, 2012 04:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also to get more info look at the ruler of the 2nd and where it's placed.
Venus will say something about the finances in addition to H2.

The connection usually made re: Venus/H2/Taurus is that self worth is in direct proportion to money earned.
How well you think of yourself impacts how esteemed you are in the eyes of others.
So purely with this energy, the more you value yourself, ALL of yourself, the better for you, and the better for everyone around you = you're either gonna get a lot of love and/or a lot of money coming your way.
Afflictions (incl conj) to planets in Taurus/to Venus/to planets in H2 then just sorta muck this up and tend to make it more of a hassle than it has to be. But the hassle can turn into a driving force.

It's the whole 2/6/10 that you want to look at for the broad picture there on money/work. H2 is pretty much just the generating of an idea of where to get that money, what do you see as your best assets/worth and how can you best sell yourself, how can you make a quick buck, what are the hard facts of your net worth. It's all about crunching numbers. H6 is the daily grind, the routine, being an employee, focusing on efficiency, banking up your skills. H10 is the reputation, what mark do you want to make on the world, what do you want to be known as, what is the thing that you'll stand up for in front of the world.
Then H8 will sometimes enter the picture when you have to deal with taxes, alimony, govt payouts, child support, anytime someone is rearing their head into your financial business (opposed to your H2).

Here are some various other things that H2 rules (besides the way money moves around, which isn't a lot),
-giving and receiving
-pleasure and entertainment from your profession
-throat, vocal cords, voice, neck
-precious stones
-friends of the family
-freedom/liberty


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posted September 04, 2012 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The connection usually made re: Venus/H2/Taurus is that self worth is in direct proportion to money earned.

so true. i am venus and sun in taurus.

i also noticed i sometimes spent like a sag (the sign on my h2 cusp) when they make those cartoons jokes about the sag buying an airplane to save on tickets and the taurus going nuts i am to some extent on the sag's side of things lol! but what i spend my money on are definitely taurean compared to a sag sun.

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posted September 04, 2012 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Also to get more info look at the ruler of the 2nd and where it's placed.
Venus will say something about the finances in addition to H2.

The connection usually made re: Venus/H2/Taurus is that self worth is in direct proportion to money earned.
How well you think of yourself impacts how esteemed you are in the eyes of others.
So purely with this energy, the more you value yourself, ALL of yourself, the better for you, and the better for everyone around you = you're either gonna get a lot of love and/or a lot of money coming your way.
Afflictions (incl conj) to planets in Taurus/to Venus/to planets in H2 then just sorta muck this up and tend to make it more of a hassle than it has to be. But the hassle can turn into a driving force.

It's the whole 2/6/10 that you want to look at for the broad picture there on money/work. H2 is pretty much just the generating of an idea of where to get that money, what do you see as your best assets/worth and how can you best sell yourself, how can you make a quick buck, what are the hard facts of your net worth. It's all about crunching numbers. H6 is the daily grind, the routine, being an employee, focusing on efficiency, banking up your skills. H10 is the reputation, what mark do you want to make on the world, what do you want to be known as, what is the thing that you'll stand up for in front of the world.
Then H8 will sometimes enter the picture when you have to deal with taxes, alimony, govt payouts, child support, anytime someone is rearing their head into your financial business (opposed to your H2).

Here are some various other things that H2 rules (besides the way money moves around, which isn't a lot),
-giving and receiving
-pleasure and entertainment from your profession
-throat, vocal cords, voice, neck
-precious stones
-friends of the family
-freedom/liberty


GREAT info, as usual Lonake
I have a question, as I never thought of this until now.
I have saturn in the 2nd in Scorpio. I just started earning my own money, after being a stay at home mom for many years and not earning my own money.

My self esteem is really going up from that one thing. Would this fit with Saturn in the 2nd? Thanks so much. I appreciate your contributions on LL, so very much, Lonake!

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posted September 04, 2012 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for flowerpower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lonake, would comment on my attempt to analyse this chart info?

H2 = scorpio + neptune (right at house divison with H3)
H1 = libra + pluto
H6 = pisces + jupiter R
H8 = taurus
H9 = gemini + venus
H10 = cancer + sun, moon, mercury, saturn

self-worth = impression on others, reputation, self-image, developed through contact with foreign things, developed throught learning about the world, developing own thinking / intellectual abilities

work =
H2 - depends on personal relations, changes job / area of work periodically (transformation X work), professionals upss and downs, clueless about work area,
H6 - feels it is very difficult to deal with work routines, always have a lot of work, doesn't expect high financial reward,

H8 - slow changes

H9 - work may be related to foreign things, to harmonizing something (...) :-), needs to pursue academic studies to make professional progress,

H10 - expects professional acknowledgement, progress is delayed...


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posted September 04, 2012 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for flowerpower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Just Me for this thread, yours is a good question !

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posted September 06, 2012 03:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami that's a great interp for Saturn there! Can you state any progressions or transits colliding around that time? Also it seems you're due for a Saturn Return; since you're putting in the work I wonder what the future will bring

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posted September 06, 2012 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
flowerpower if you wrote the signs on the cusp in your list there, you'll see that you have 2 significant placements. H10 ruler in the 10th, H6 ruler in the 2nd; when you can go back and forth like that over the career houses then you see a bigger focus than just a singular placement in a career house. I suppose it might be Neptune that seems to be causing a bit of an issue here, ruling the 6th placed in the 2nd. Taking Neptune out of the equation, and isolating the house placement since H6 is that of the servant, being placed in the 2nd of worth could cause some issues in terms of assessing your true value. One, because H6 doesn't place great value on itself, two, because Neptune is unsure of even being a thing to be valued, so it can either under- or over-estimate. By your interpretations it seems that things are not working for you as much as you'd like them to be in this area, so I would first look to Neptune; there's definitely no shortage of energy for you to work with in this area of your chart. Also the house placement of the Moon is typically said to be one of much change, so consider also that it's your Mc ruler and in the 10th. Since it's the Moon and H10 another way you could put it, is that you might find it easier to be the face of a company to meet with the public, since Moon rules the populace and H10 is out in the world vs. H4 hidden deep within. That's one way you could use the changeability of the Moon to your benefit. Lots to think about here.

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posted September 06, 2012 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Ami that's a great interp for Saturn there! Can you state any progressions or transits colliding around that time? Also it seems you're due for a Saturn Return; since you're putting in the work I wonder what the future will bring


I know this sounds bad, but I don't look at transits, for myself. I will for someone else, if they ask me. It makes me too paranoid.

For example, if I had a Mars coming to touch my Uranus, I would be afraid to move

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posted September 06, 2012 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lonake
I think I am finally seeing how Saturn in the 2nd works, for me. I need to earn my own money to have self esteem. I need to know I can deal with the currency of this earth, which is money and that I can do it on my own.

Saturn allows one to mature and have competence and wisdom in the house in which it resides( or anywhere it touches)

Hence, I feel this happening to me, now.

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posted September 06, 2012 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Lonake, what do you think of the condition of my 2nd?

it's very strange imo. unaspected uranus conj the south node. aquarius in intercepted so my uranus doesn't rule a house kinda. i think hera mentioned that..

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posted September 06, 2012 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for flowerpower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello LONAKE, thank you for taking time to analyse my houses.

Yes, I'm still not sure about what I want in terms of work. Or at least I have felt the need to change direction for some years now but can't decide what to do. I want many things at the same time, but haven't found the job that has it all :-) Your analysis gave me a new point of view to consider !

Still, I APOLOGIZE, because indeed, my 6th House cusp is in Aquarius. As you asked if I was sure about the house cusps, I decided to check them. I simply had memorized that my 6th house was in pisces...

Well, aquarius in the 6 House cusp, then Pisces, with Jupiter retrograde. What a bonus, ;-) so pisces is intercepted... I had not realized that before. Anyway, Uranus is in the first house, in Libra http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o555/flowerpowerflake/022e5d03.jpg

If there are two signs in the same house, doesn't it mean that as the person gets older the second sign rules ?

Also, if the house ruler of the North Node is in the 6th House, (right?) it would mean putting in practice what the 6th House says would help with the NN task ?

Sorry I dont want to change the focus from the 2nd house.

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posted September 13, 2012 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for just me     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:

Then H8 will sometimes enter the picture when you have to deal with taxes, alimony, govt payouts, child support, anytime someone is rearing their head into your financial business (opposed to your H2).


I have this aspect, my second house sag jupiter opposing my 8th house gemini mercury. May this mean that a sibling could be sticking their nose into my financial business?

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posted September 13, 2012 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Ami that's a great interp for Saturn there! Can you state any progressions or transits colliding around that time? Also it seems you're due for a Saturn Return; since you're putting in the work I wonder what the future will bring


Just saw this. Thanks Lonake. Yes, I am really getting self esteem from making my own money. I love the work so much that I can't believe I am even paid, so that is about the best anyone could ask for, too.

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posted September 15, 2012 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by just me:
I have this aspect, my second house sag jupiter opposing my 8th house gemini mercury. May this mean that a sibling could be sticking their nose into my financial business?

Well Mercury and Gemini and 3rd all rule over siblings so that sounds like a possibility.


@Ami, sounds great!

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