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Rennin
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posted October 16, 2012 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rennin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
new to the forums - not looking for a personal reading, although i'm looking for clues in my natal for further investigation - any and all input welcome!

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Rennin
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posted October 16, 2012 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rennin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_2gw_01_e.66502.32532.gif&res=100&va=&cid=dowfileMwBIE3-u1349847553

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Rennin
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posted October 16, 2012 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rennin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and by clues, i'm asking if a large portion of my focus needs to go towards my scorpio trifecta (mars, saturn, pluto)

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doommlord
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posted October 16, 2012 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i hope you are sure about that birth time cause mere minutes shift your chart completly

hmmm do you have trouble to fully understand who or what you are? yet do you still wish to have a presntable image?

do you feel emotionally secure in relationships? do you "worship" your partner or want your partner to "worship" you?

do you belive your self expression is an important theme in your life? yet do you trouble with it? did major psychological changes in yourself were related to your personal way of expression?

do you like your partner to be able to make you feel "home" and secure yet allow you stimulation?

do you take frienship seriously? do you put effort in having an active social life or connection to like mined people? do you often have disputes with them?

do you feel sometimes that partners are able to satisfy one side of yourself but not the other?

do you have much restrain while having very strong feeling? are you not the type to "party hard"?

anwser these at first...as these are basic things one can see in a natal...if you wish you can ask me what placement i was looking at when i wrote a question

i hope i gave you what you wanted

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doommlord
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posted October 16, 2012 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rennin:
and by clues, i'm asking if a large portion of my focus needs to go towards my scorpio trifecta (mars, saturn, pluto)

a lot of your focus will be on the uneasy aspects between your scorpio planets and your sun+merc+venus

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posted October 16, 2012 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and welcome to LL

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Rennin
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posted October 16, 2012 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rennin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks for your quick reply - yes, that is definitely the exact birth time (i know it's extremely important) ... i've been messing around in my free time trying to figure out key elements, but i got sidetracked and started to become really interested in asteroids (got ahead of myself there) ...
in relation to my scorpio placements - sometimes i feel as though a HEAVY undercurrent runs through everything i do in daily life (up to and including weighty thoughts) - i have a hard time shrugging off minimal issues, and seem to take many benign factors and turn them into something way overblown .. make sense?

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posted October 16, 2012 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rennin:
thanks for your quick reply - yes, that is definitely the exact birth time (i know it's extremely important) ... i've been messing around in my free time trying to figure out key elements, but i got sidetracked and started to become really interested in asteroids (got ahead of myself there) ...
in relation to my scorpio placements - sometimes i feel as though a HEAVY undercurrent runs through everything i do in daily life (up to and including weighty thoughts) - i have a hard time shrugging off minimal issues, and seem to take many benign factors and turn them into something way overblown .. make sense?

i belive its your scorpy saturn effecting your sun

especially since your chart ruler IS saturn so the 2 most important planets in your chart are in a problematic aspect...i know how it feels ^^

also the 1st house neptune conjuncting ascendant makes you more sensitive thus everything has a stronger effect (even the minor things)

i hope i make sense

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Rennin
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posted October 16, 2012 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rennin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
to answer your questions -

my understanding of myself (internally) is outstanding - or so i think -- my understanding of how other perceive me is greatly hindered by anxiety

in my relationships, jealousy is undoubtedly a strong issue and i would like other to put me on the same pedestal that i put them on (i exalt my friends and loved ones to the highest degree, and am quite upset when they don't measure up to my expectations)

my self expression has continually developed in a forward fashion since the death of my mother (december 31, 2006) ... i have become a calmer person without strong resentment.

i sometimes enjoy lighthearted challenges and arguments, although i can easily turn sour (never externally, always internal dread/worry) when too many of my viewpoints are overlooked or ignored.

in love, i tend to be attracted to many people on the surface, almost magnetically ... infidelity is not an issue, because i don't act on strong feelings outside of a relationship. i do feel that many people (on the initial meeting) are either scared to death of me, turned off, or pining to know all they can. even if someone doesn't come out and flatly say that they like/don't like me - i find body language says it all - never any slight feelings, always intense.

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posted October 16, 2012 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rennin:
to answer your questions -

my understanding of myself (internally) is outstanding - or so i think -- my understanding of how other perceive me is greatly hindered by anxiety

in my relationships, jealousy is undoubtedly a strong issue and i would like other to put me on the same pedestal that i put them on (i exalt my friends and loved ones to the highest degree, and am quite upset when they don't measure up to my expectations)

my self expression has continually developed in a forward fashion since the death of my mother (december 31, 2006) ... i have become a calmer person without strong resentment.

i sometimes enjoy lighthearted challenges and arguments, although i can easily turn sour (never externally, always internal dread/worry) when too many of my viewpoints are overlooked or ignored.

in love, i tend to be attracted to many people on the surface, almost magnetically ... infidelity is not an issue, because i don't act on strong feelings outside of a relationship. i do feel that many people (on the initial meeting) are either scared to death of me, turned off, or pining to know all they can. even if someone doesn't come out and flatly say that they like/don't like me - i find body language says it all - never any slight feelings, always intense.


that my dear... is venus pluto opposition especially since venus rules your 5th house (romance)

the fact that you think people are scared by you is related to strong aspects with pluto and saturn while saturn donates to the feeling of "they dont love me"

im not sure but ive read somewhere that emotional tension might be related to 12th house uranus

ask anything if you wish

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Rennin
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posted October 16, 2012 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rennin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
also - the ways in which i communicate tend to come across as shy (i've been told) or easy to tread on (will bear the full weight without running away)

i do believe i have scared others because while i SEEM shy, i am just waiting for the moment that i can open my mouth (bursting from the seams with language)...i think that's probably misguided anxiety working it's way through

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Randall
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posted October 16, 2012 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome!

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doommlord
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posted October 16, 2012 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rennin:
also - the ways in which i communicate tend to come across as shy (i've been told) or easy to tread on (will bear the full weight without running away)

i do believe i have scared others because while i SEEM shy, i am just waiting for the moment that i can open my mouth (bursting from the seams with language)...i think that's probably misguided anxiety working it's way through


well neptune in 1st can cause someone to seem as the "shy doormat" but often they hide very strong personalities (especially with all your cap and scorp energy)

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Rennin
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posted October 16, 2012 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rennin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
since i am new to actually trying to figure the configurations and planetary relationships ... i find myself drawn to the actual pattern of my natal chart (while i think it looks nice because of all the crossing lines, i'm starting to understand that all those lines create tension!)

i've skimmed some articles relating to 'rectangles' 'baskets' 'kites' 'yods' ... do you have an insight to the Yod? and if so, what about multiple Yods? and also, my Chiron/NN being conjunct?

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posted October 16, 2012 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rennin:
since i am new to actually trying to figure the configurations and planetary relationships ... i find myself drawn to the actual pattern of my natal chart (while i think it looks nice because of all the crossing lines, i'm starting to understand that all those lines create tension!)

i've skimmed some articles relating to 'rectangles' 'baskets' 'kites' 'yods' ... do you have an insight to the Yod? and if so, what about multiple Yods? and also, my Chiron/NN being conjunct?


i have yet to take into consideration any aspect or planetary patterns and took time to learn different things ^^

a chiron NN conjunction might mean that during your own emotional/psychological development you will have to deal with your past traumas or hurts and reach some sort of conclusion with them to "move on" and achieve development

thus of course your NN will be harder but possibly more enlightning

it is also possible you will be able to help others heal the problems they have with the "field" related to the house chiron is in....after you develop and learn your lessons

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Rennin
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posted October 16, 2012 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rennin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
by the way - thank you so much for giving your time and insight, this has already given me a wealth of information to ponder ...

surely you can understand that at some point, the enormous scope of all this information starts to get confabulated ... i'm trying to methodically sort through it all

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posted October 16, 2012 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rennin:
by the way - thank you so much for giving your time and insight, this has already given me a wealth of information to ponder ...

surely you can understand that at some point, the enormous scope of all this information starts to get confabulated ... i'm trying to methodically sort through it all


its my pleasure
thats why im astro for beginners in the first place

take all the time you need to sort out your info

if you need anything just ask and im sure il anwser in a reasonable amount of time (this thread aint gonna disppear suddenly...or at least i hope so...)

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Rennin
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posted October 16, 2012 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rennin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
realized i didn't fully answer your first set of questions ...

i am having a hard time figuring out what i actually want in life in regards to relationships....don't get me wrong, i love them...but longevity is an issue (with me) ... at times i feel as though i would like to alone, unmarried, etc and would be absolutely fine with that - i do enjoy companionship, but sometimes i think i put more energy into it than i can ever get out of it...i hope that doesn't make me sound selfish. before i go running to a synastry chart, i'd like to know if anything in particular stands out to you as being a hardship with personal relationships....i'm by no means a social queen, but i don't want to be hindered when it comes to my being totally independent (not having to answer to anyone)

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Rennin
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posted October 16, 2012 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rennin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and what (if anything) stands out most strongly to you when you look at my chart -- anything that makes you think 'that will be a difficult thing to work through?' - 'she's going to have a really hard time with that?'

such as: difficulties in work sector, social needs, personal relationships, etc?

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Rennin
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posted October 16, 2012 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rennin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i am also curious about my mars in scorpio rx / venus in taurus- would that contribute to a fascination of all things sexual? and could that perhaps be preventing me from grasping the wholeness of any relationship? (ie- interested strictly in sex, or otherwise compartmentalizing/dividing certain aspects of love that should be joined together?)

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posted October 16, 2012 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
moon square venus can be very problematic in relationships and i speak as one who own such an aspect

venus opposition pluto might add some strong intensity and jealousy not all can deal with

the strongest impression in your chart came from sun opposing mars and saturn...and that means dealing with strong feeling and strong inhibitions imo

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posted October 16, 2012 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rennin:
i am also curious about my mars in scorpio rx / venus in taurus- would that contribute to a fascination of all things sexual? and could that perhaps be preventing me from grasping the wholeness of any relationship? (ie- interested strictly in sex, or otherwise compartmentalizing/dividing certain aspects of love that should be joined together?)

dont look at masr in scorpio as a sex hound as it is much more than that (mars pluto conjunct in scorpio here )

mars in scorpio are actually very emotional with sex and many wish for strong connection on the personal/emotional level as well as in a physical/sexual one

venus in taurus can be sensual but the strong pluto aspect assures you that there is much more depth to romance on your behalf

it is possible though that you will have wery strict interests in partnerships and some things are allowed and some might not be

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Rennin
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posted October 16, 2012 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rennin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ahh, so then you are truly suited to helping me with these issues!

so, anxiety stemming from having intense feelings, but also having those intense feelings clouded by inhibitions ...

is there a solution aspect within my natal that could overcome those things(assuming they aren't so strong that it is not possible) ? or would i need to draw on outside influences to work through my inhibition/insecurities?

i find that having a small, well chosen, select few group of friends (that can handle intensity) tend to help boost my self worth --- it's funny, isn't it? i feel so clear about my confidence when i am with myself, but in groups i overanalyze myself to the point of becoming sick --absolutely caring too much over other's thoughts of me ! ... i've heard about 'sensitive/psychic' people - i'm not touting that i am, but i do feel like i pick up on ALL nuances when in a group of people....almost like i'm so in tune with body language etc that i can't focus on what's actually being said

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Rennin
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posted October 16, 2012 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rennin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, you are correct.
i am very discriminating in my relationships ...
while that is true, i don't enjoy small talk for the sake of making conversations ... i want to know the inner workings of people ... if i am willing to bare my soul (which i am), then others should too right? ; )
i have been through tragedy (as everyone has), but i don't mind talking about my personal revelations and experiences matter of factly (i think that makes some people uncomfortable) ... it almost makes me mad when i realize how much people shun their inner feelings just to keep a status quo in their lives ... like blissfully unaware ... sometimes i wish i had that capability...

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Rennin
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posted October 16, 2012 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rennin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, you are correct.
i am very discriminating in my relationships ...
while that is true, i don't enjoy small talk for the sake of making conversations ... i want to know the inner workings of people ... if i am willing to bare my soul (which i am), then others should too right? ; )
i have been through tragedy (as everyone has), but i don't mind talking about my personal revelations and experiences matter of factly (i think that makes some people uncomfortable) ... it almost makes me mad when i realize how much people shun their inner feelings just to keep a status quo in their lives ... like blissfully unaware ... sometimes i wish i had that capability...

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