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posted October 24, 2012 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks for gemmy for asking
enjoy

(Haydn Paul)

With square aspects, the tendency is for the individual to 'side' with one of the planets,
and to partly reject and project the characteristics of the other planet onto other people.
It is likely that the more dominating Uranian energy will condition you to the detriment of
the Venus feeling nature.
This will be revealed in your insistence upon being emotionally free, and in your
reluctance to commit yourself to any single relationship and share in any responsibility
arising from that. Part of this wariness is derived from your awareness of a basicallypromiscuous attitude (whether practised or not), and that often compulsive fascination
that can sweep you away on the tids of sudden intense affairs. It is an innate curiosity
that tempts you towards those individuals who appear to offer a mystery, something
unusual in their life; and you feel the desire to discover and explore their secrets. This
does not always lead you into favourable situations, and often can create extra problems
in your life; yet you cannot resist the lure of excitement. Once you have uncovered that
particular secret, your interest may quickly decline, and you consider yourself to be open
to the next fascination that comes along.
You will be socially active, searching for novelty, new people, and new interests, and will
be especially attracted towards unconventional or artistically orientated groups. You have
a natural reaction against convention and social traditions, often dismissing their validity
in a quite flippant manner. You tend to see a mainstream, socially acceptable lifestyle as
one to be avoided at all costs, and can have a low opinion of those who live that way. To
you, it is a denial of individuality to submit to the social consensus, and you consider it
important to promote the image of being different. Sometimes you can rebel for the sake
of rebellion, to support a less mature image towards which you aspire. You rarely analyse
your anti-tradition stance in clear intellectual terms, or express it in the form of a
reasoned reaction against certain aspects of society; it is more of an instinctual reaction.
You find it hard to maintain intimate relationships, even when interested in doing so,
because part of you is running away from accepting and giving love. Love makes you feel
uneasy; you fear that it will inhibit your freedom; and your emotions tend to be repressed
to some degree. In extreme cases, the emotions can be almost rigid with inhibition, with a
fear of acknowledging and releasing them. Often you experience your affairs or
relationships as superficially as possible, enabling you to fly like a butterfly to the next
temporary stopping-place. Perseverance is not your strongest asset; and when situations
arise requiring self-discipline in order to achieve personal aims, or to maintain a
relationship through a difficult phase, you often display that lack of commitment,
preferring the excitement of the unknown. You are emotionally fickle, and with that
feeling of restless irritation on that level, you may attempt to ignore its presence as much
as possible, choosing physical excitement and mental curiosity as your prime directions
to follow. As Uranus will distort that feeling nature over time, perverse feelings may
begin to form as a kind of twisted inner compensation for an emotional denial. This can
lead to unusual and varied sexual behaviour, or the desire to experiment.
In several ways, you probably need to reclaim that Venus feeling part of your nature.
Those emotions need to be released, to have freedom to breathe properly and to circulate
through you. You have to feel those emotions, allow them to penetrate your inner depths,
instead of limiting their emergence. Otherwise, over time, they will begin to poison you,
affecting any relationships in a negative manner and ensuring that none truly satisfies.
Being willing to open to vulnerability in your relationships is essential; to risk being hurt
is a chance to take, but can lead to a greater maturation and understanding of the
transformative and healing qualities that intimacy can offer.

(Robert Pelletier)

The square from Venus to Uranus shows that you tend to be fascinated by individuals
who have unusual qualities. You remain infatuated until the person begins to be seriously
interested in you. Then you find new ways to detach yourself from any permanent tue,
because you enjoy being a free spirit. You are not really sure you can ever accept the
responsability of belonging to one person. The fear of responsibility is unrealistic, but it is
consistent with your figuratively promiscuous temperament. You defy convention and
deliberately show your disdain for those who submit to it.
You refuse to compromise with tradition because to do so would mean that you had no
individuality of your own. There is much confusion in your mind between love and
friendship. you win friends easily but you aren't committed to them, except socially or
superficially. Love, however, is more difficult, because of the demands involved and thelimitations on your freedom. It is extremely impractical to expect others to make
adjustments that allow you to preserve your freedom, while you contribute nothing in
return. Even friendship requires that you meet others halfway.
You can enjoy exquisite thrills in the total fulfillment of a true love relationship. In a
merely casual contact, however, 'If you settle for less, you will get less'.
If you apply the same attitudes to your professional interests, the results can be
devastating. Promotion is unlikely unless you slow down your breakneck social pace, to
show that you are sufficiently stable to accept greater responsability. You must also be
more discreet in your private affairs, which you tend to flaunt carelessly.
Nervous irritability often results from this planetary combination, especially if you are
immoderate and don't get sufficient rest.

(Haydn Paul)

Both the opposition and the square display the stronger influence of the Uranian energy
dominating the easier, harmonious social style of Venus. Rebellious, unconventional
attitudes appear; and with this opposition aspect, you will feel that you have to assert
your own unique identity even though it may create discord between yourself and others.
You will often feel disturbed by emotional insecurity and an instability in the consistency
of your feelings towards others. In intimate relationships, this will be displayed in swings
between red-hot passions and ice-cold disinterest.
This puzzles you, and can obviously confuse a partner, especially when the need for a
deeper commitment arises. You wouldn't be sure what to do; and your lover would doubt
your real feelings.
Your desires can feel extremely powerful, demanding satisfaction; and the intensity of
this energy can lead you to explore unconventional ways of life. A certain impulsiveness
and reckless spirit can take you into experiences that could be dangerous; and your
choices for relationships may often create future problems for you.
Your unconventional style and basically friendly nature will attract friends; but your own
sense of attachment and commitment to them may be erratic. You will be too much drawn
by the glamour of following your own unique light to maintain friendships; and some will
fall by the wayside as you move ever onwards.
Most of your tendency to oppose will be directed towards authority and those who
embody a traditional social structure. As a natural rebel, you will question the
foundations of your society, challenge their effectiveness, and probably support the
causes of those who are oppressed or disadvantaged by the dominant political attitudes.
You have several characteristics which can be used positively, such as a strong will and
determination, and an acceptance of intellectual responsibility (sometimes subverted by
emotional instability). The use of these will depend upon your ability to be clear about
your objectives, and to maintain enough emotional commitment to fuel your efforts to
achieve them.
There is likely to be a need to learn greater compromise and consistency, especially
within your intimate relationships, and to evoke the Venus energy to a higher degree.
Provided that you pay attention, and consider thre effects of your choices in life, you will
realise that experience will teach you all you need to know, despite its often painful
impact. As a rebel, you can learn much about the less publicised frontiers of life, become
aware of the heights and depths that people can experience or endure. This will enrich
you and increase your maturity. Eventually, you may have much that is ov value to share
with others.

(Robert Pelletier)

With Venus opposition Uranus, you are somewhat emotionally unstable. You have strong
desires and don't care who knows it. Your intensity in expressing yourself often leads to
uncomfortable and even dangerous relationships. You seem intend on exploring every
kind of human contact, totally disregarding the dangers involved. You are a rebel who
insists that experience is the best teacher. Perhaps, but it is also the most painful way to
learn, since the residues linger and may even haunt you later in life. You are impulsive
and even reckless in handling money, probably overspending on clothing or on pleasures
to indulge in.
You depends on your bright and witty charm to carry you to success in your job. It is
possible for you to enjoy warm personal and social contacts with your superiors. Any
profession in which you must deal with the public could provide you with much
satisfaction.
You don't submit to authority without challenge, which can be a deterrent to realizing
your goals. You enjoy competition, because you have enormous
assets to help you succeed. But if there is no excitement accompanying the competition,
you lose interest. you are willful, determined, and persistent, and you take on
responsabilities with ease. You may alienate your closest friends or associates as you
climb to success, because you will detach yourself from them if it is expedient.
Your romantic affairs will always remain just affairs unless you can learn to compromise
and meet others halfway. You tend to want fulfillment without making a contribution to
sustain a permanent relationship. If your attitude does not change, you will enjoy a
succession of full and satisfying romantic alliances. But you will have no assurances of
truly 'belonging' to someone in the latter years of your life. and loneliness is very
uncomfortable for you.

(Karen Hamaker-Zondag)

By and large, the tense aspects betwee Venus and Uranus receive pretty poor press in
traditional astrology. And this is perfectly understandable, given that their inherent strain
and unrest compounded by that of Uranus really tests the resilience of close relationships
with others. What is more, Uranus is always the planet of the iconoclast, the individualist
and the know-it-all - hardly the ideal person for holding a marriage or a friendship
together.
With these aspects, we are tense, nervous and generally unsure in our dealings with
others; consequently, we quickly get irritated, or fail to take enough time to build up one
relationship before abandoning it to start another. The idea of change and renewal is
irresistible; what we may not realize is that the source of our restlessness is in our own
emotional constitution. Our inconstancy and fear of firm commitments are projected into
a colorful series of on-off, half-baked relationships which do not give us or the other(s) a
chance. New friendships keep ending as suddenly as they begin.
On the other hand, nerviness can contribute to an almost Saturnian anxiety, which
inhibits us from forming any close ties. This problem will recur time and time again until
we manage to deal with its root. The creative side of the aspects can then be expressed in
a very stimulating relationship with people who are just as determined to preserve their
own freedom of development as we are to preserve ours; yet as a character they are
sufficiently interesting to us. Such a relationship is not always easy but, with these
aspecs, we should become bored if things ran too smoothly. So tense aspects are by no
means inimical to good relationships.

(Charles Carter)

Though far less depressing than the evil aspects of Venus and Saturn, this combination
has a tendency to make the native extremely 'touchy', so that co-operation of any kind
becomes almost impossible. There is self-will, and sometimes an unusual rigidity of
outlook and opinion from which the native cannot be moved; indeed it often happens that
he will refuse to discuss hie reasons or motives. The feelings seem subtly to dominate the
will, so that the native, while remaining outwardly rational and logical, will persist in an
unfortunate course, and will refuse to give way or conced anything, with the strange
unreasonableness of the Uranian. The character is often good and kind, but the
orientation of the will is, as it were, distorted.
Unfortunate associates menace the life, both in love and in business, as well as in other
ways. In marriage, the partner is uncongenial or dies; and sometimes the native is
changeful or exacting or eccentric. It inclines to peculiar and unconventional ideas about
sex, and the native often has an exaggerated idea of independence and personal freedom,
overlooking the fact that man is naturally gregarious and is more or less dependent on
his fellows, whether he cares to admit this dependence or not. But the aspect does not
incline to promiscuity or vulgar vice, and its connection with sexual perversion has
probably been extremely exaggerated. However, the effects of the sexual life upon the
health are often unhelpful.
It may concur with other features to signify tragic separations and bereavements in
either marriage or other near relationships. It is a somewhat common feature in the
nativities of suicides, and it is also sometimes found in the horoscopes of child-victims of
assault and sexual offences, so that children possessing it should be carefully protected.
It is not favourable with regard to the mother, who may die early, or be unfortunate or
uncongenial.
It inclines to nervous instability and various nervous afflictions, probably due to
repressed or defeated desires, for the desire-nature is strong and does not easily submit
to repulse or rejection. It is useless to expect persons with this aspect to live a strictly
conventional or harshly Puritanic life, for repression is likely to cause violent outbreaks
or else repression-neuroses

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posted October 25, 2012 05:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Curious Bull     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello -
Wondering how a Venus - Uranus opposition differs from this square?
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posted October 25, 2012 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Curious Bull     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemmy,

Thank you for explaining that!

Do you know what happens in a grand cross when there are squares and oppositions?

Do you find that square frustrating or energising?

(I believe my venus/mars trine uranus is very energizing)

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posted October 27, 2012 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Curious Bull     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey that's cool, we're both learning! :-D

I just realised I have uranus opposite mercury, plus uranus opposite chiron.

Now, having read what you wrote I wonder if I do this hot/cold change in some way like you do? Hmmm...

What house and sign is your venus & your uranus in?

I learned some things yesterday about the G.C. including that I have one that is called a fixed grand cross. I read online that it creates a lot of energy and is not easy to release because focusing on one planet can cause imbalance in the others? I would like to learn more about it. Maybe we can start a new thread on this.

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Originally posted by Gemmy:
Your welcome

Sorry I don't know how the grand cross would play out.I'd like to know that too,if anyone could give us an answer.Or maybe you can search the forum.

I have the opposition,so I am pretty hot and cold.I'm trying to balance the two energies.I think patience is key,cause Uranus tends to make me do things I regret,especially in relationships.

I'm not suprised that you find your trines to uranus energizing.In a trine the energies of both planets work together.It's a harmonious/easy aspect.


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posted October 30, 2012 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Curious Bull     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have my NN & SN in the 11th & 5th. I have definitely felt that energy polarity and it's resolved towards NN through some Saturn transitions. Really interesting how astro works.

With uranus opposing venus in 5th how do transits to uranus unexpectedly disrupt your love life and creativity? Curious, if you are willing to share.

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Originally posted by Gemmy:
I have the mercury opposition also and alot of people have the uranus/chiron opposition.If you search the forum I'm sure you'll find a thread on these aspects.Or you can google it the forum always comes up.

My venus is in the 5th in gemini(which doesn't help.Right?lol)and uranus is in the 11th in sag.


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posted October 30, 2012 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Curious Bull     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They scare me a bit too, because looking back at dates I realise that the worst things that ever happened to me happened on days with transits involving lillith or saturn or uranus. Are there days when such transits happened that nothing happened too?? I hope so.

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I just recently began learning about astrology and haven't really kept track of transits,besides they kind of scare me.

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posted November 03, 2012 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Curious Bull     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ohhhh... wow. So sorry Gemmy. That stuff sucks. HUGS.

I just saw that my divorce came on the wings of sudden illness when Saturn transited my 6th house moon!

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Pluto/Midheaven:Put in a foster home.
Pluto/Saturn/Uranus:Grandmother passed away.
Pluto/Neptune:Fell in love for the first time and had my heart broken.

I've already read up on a few big ones coming up,like T Sturn conjunct N Pluto next year,and in 10 years Pluto on the Asc.Those have me nervous,so that's why I'm staying away from reading transits.


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