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ScorpionAz
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posted August 21, 2013 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpionAz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all. I am new to the site and astrology. I did my chart yesterday but I'm trying to figure things out. It says my Venus is in Sagittarius. However, upon reading on the cafeastrology website the descriptions and comparing Venus signs, I feel this is incorrect. I read both the Sagittarius and Scorpio descriptions. The Sag in Venus sounds NOTHING like me. The Scorp, however, is dead-on accurate. Scorpio is also my sun sign. Can my chart be wrong or perhaps I'm not reading it correctly? Thanks for any help.

This is my chart: http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?cid=qbcfilezoK5gR-u1377050394&lang=e&gm=a1&nhor=1&nho2=1&btyp=24&mth=gw&sday=21&smon=8&syr=2013&hsy=-1&zod=&orbp=&rs=0&ast=

This is Cafe Astrology venus description: http://cafeastrology.com/articles/venusscorpiocompatibility.html

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Randall
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posted August 21, 2013 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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ScorpionAz
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posted August 21, 2013 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpionAz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you!

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Doux RÍve
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posted August 21, 2013 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux RÍve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi ScorpionAz, Welcome!

Well, your Venus is definitely in Sagittarius, it conjuncts Mercury and widely conjuncts Jupiter.
You may not relate to it because it's in the 6th (house of Virgo) or because you don't recognize Sag traits in yourself.

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ScorpionAz
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posted August 21, 2013 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpionAz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, I don't relate to it at all. I guess as I learn more about this stuff, then what you're saying will make better sense.

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posted August 21, 2013 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why don't you feel like a sag Venus?

You have a Pisces Mars,Pluto in the 4th,and chart ruler Moon in the 7th.Maybe that's why you don't feel like a Sagittarius Venus.

Venus shows what were attracted to.So maybe your attracted to people who exhibit sag traits?
Example)I have a Gemini Venus.I'm attracted to intellectuals. I can't date a guy with no brains,it's a turn off.Am I flighty and a flirt?Nope.I'm the worst flirt ever! So you don't always show those traits.It could simply mean what your attracted to in others.

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ScorpionAz
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posted August 21, 2013 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpionAz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is what is says about Venus in Sagittarius: http://cafeastrology.com/articles/venussagittariuscompatibility.html

After reading it again, I would say about 90 percent of what's described as traits do NOT apply to me at all. When I read the Venus in Scorpio description, I would say about 99 percent of it applies to me. In fact, I've never read a more accurate description of how I feel that I am when in relationships. So that is why I thought the Venus in Sag to be incorrect. I wasn't sure if that was possible? Maybe if I got my time wrong, or something?

As far as being attracted to men with Sag traits? I'm not sure about that. Although I've ended up with guys who display these traits, I would say a lot of these traits would annoy me and cause problems. Like this one for example, which describes perfectly my Aquarius (ex) boyfriend to a tee and caused problems between us: "You require space in any kind of partnership, and need a sense of freedom in order to feel comfortable."

That other stuff you said I don't quite understand yet (about Pisces mars, Pluto and Moon) but hopefully I do soon. I've been at this for a day now and the more I read, the more confused I get. LOL

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posted August 23, 2013 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Noenemy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Couple things. You are a Scorpio with moon in Capricorn just like me. I also have a sag Venus. (I have different mercury and mars than you)...so my first thought was that cap moon is trying to control things again! My birthday is 11/22 and I grew up thinking I was a Sagittarius! Until I was 26, then I learned I was a Scorpio. It was disappointing because I don't want to be a miserable Scorpio and I don't even enjoy sex that much lol, I want to be a happy go lucky Sagittarius! So I was convinced that my chart was wrong and my sun sign was in Sagittarius...now I don't really care so I don't have a good ending for you. But, I can relate! LOL

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ScorpionAz
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posted August 23, 2013 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpionAz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Noenemy:
Couple things. You are a Scorpio with moon in Capricorn just like me. I also have a sag Venus. (I have different mercury and mars than you)...so my first thought was that cap moon is trying to control things again! My birthday is 11/22 and I grew up thinking I was a Sagittarius! Until I was 26, then I learned I was a Scorpio. It was disappointing because I don't want to be a miserable Scorpio and I don't even enjoy sex that much lol, I want to be a happy go lucky Sagittarius! So I was convinced that my chart was wrong and my sun sign was in Sagittarius...now I don't really care so I don't have a good ending for you. But, I can relate! LOL

LOL! I thought the cut off for Scorpio was 11-21? That's my birthday. I've seen it as 11-21 on some sites and 11-22 on others. I was never quite sure. I'm quite content in being a Scorpio but I'll admit that sometimes when it comes to relationships, I wish I weren't. We are too "deep" and intense for our own good. I feel like I'm going crazy in my own head sometimes.

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ScorpionAz
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posted August 23, 2013 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpionAz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Noenemy:
Couple things. You are a Scorpio with moon in Capricorn just like me. I also have a sag Venus. (I have different mercury and mars than you)...so my first thought was that cap moon is trying to control things again! My birthday is 11/22 and I grew up thinking I was a Sagittarius! Until I was 26, then I learned I was a Scorpio. It was disappointing because I don't want to be a miserable Scorpio and I don't even enjoy sex that much lol, I want to be a happy go lucky Sagittarius! So I was convinced that my chart was wrong and my sun sign was in Sagittarius...now I don't really care so I don't have a good ending for you. But, I can relate! LOL

LOL! I thought the cut off for Scorpio was 11-21? That's my birthday. I've seen it as 11-21 on some sites and 11-22 on others. I was never quite sure. I'm quite content in being a Scorpio but I'll admit that sometimes when it comes to relationships, I wish I weren't. We are too "deep" and intense for our own good. I feel like I'm going crazy in my own head sometimes.

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posted August 26, 2013 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Before I started studying astrology and came to understand sign positions, my mother thought that I was Capricorn.

Ofcourse, I felt I could identify with Sagittarius so explicitly, but I guess I was omitting a far more serious energy than I knew/was aware of.

So when I did my first birth chart and saw that my position , as far as the Sun is concerned, was indeed Sagittarius, I started to wonder where the intense energy was coming from?

That is when I started to learn about Venus, Mars, Saturn etc. and it all started to make sense.

My Venus is in Scorpio and conjuncts Saturn-which is noted for giving a person a serious/intense disposition.

Venus, in your chart, represents what you love, find pleasurable and are drawn to.

Take note of-course that few sites will describe the Venus in Sagittarius to be all that different from Sun in Sagittarius; as they tend to use the same keywords.


Your Sun in Scorpio could be dominating your Venus love nature. Or there could be a possibility that you "downplay" this energy -because the two are so wildy different.

So, for instance, with your friends and casual acquintances that you like spending time with, you display your Sagittarius qualities; vivacious, bubbly,talkative, well-read,spontaneous etc.

But with your boyfriend, since it is such a more intimate setting and Scorpio rules this domain, you could show the more intense side to your nature; very involved, likes to dig deep, all or nothing, very loyal etc.


I do that also as when in relationships, I tend to show my Sagittarian nature and downplay Scorpio as much as I can. But in a crisis or a more serious situation, my Scorpio Venus makes it's presence felt.

The Sun is the "heart" of the chart and will progressively dominate. But that doesn't necessarily mean that the Scorpion detests horse-riding, the great outdoors, travelling, studying philosophy and broadening one's horizons(all associated with Venus in Sagittarius)

Your Venus in Sagittarian nature is there and the fact that it is also conjunct Jupiter(by sign)suggests to me that you may be failing to acknowledge something that is obvious.

Ask your friends how the perceive you in the friendship; are you the brooding, serious, dark horse?

And also ask your lover how he sees you in the relationship; are you the happy go lucky, optimistic, laughing character?

The responses may suprise you.

You are allowed to be both andmay people really are.

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ScorpionAz
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posted August 27, 2013 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpionAz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Taurus.
All very interesting.

Truthfully I see very little of Sag in me.
I'm very introverted and if I were to ask my friends, they'd probably come back with words like: quiet, serious, anti social, etc. I've had enough people mention these things to know how other people perceive me. But I'm also loyal, dependable. It's very seldom that I cut loose and relax but if I do, usually alcohol is involved. LOL You might say I'm a wallflower in social settings. I'm pretty "indoorsy" and an intimate evening at home with my man or alone is usually more appealing than an evening out with people. I prefer intimate settings. I'm as far from "bubbly" and "vivacious" as a person can be. As far as how a lover would see me, I don't need to ask him to know that "optimistic" and "happy go lucky" would be words he'd never use. In fact, I'm the polar opposite of those words.

If Venus in my chart represents what I am drawn to then that would make sense since I do find myself drawn to people who are my opposite (outgoing, extroverted, positive, etc). In relationships, I do TRY to downplay my Scorpio traits but they're always there, brewing under the surface, ready to wreak havoc. LOL

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