posted September 17, 2013 09:52 PM            

I'm curious because as a Gemini with a Taurus rising sign (which, from what I understand, makes me an unusual Gemini to begin with - and yeah, I hear that I'm really 'grounded' for an air sign (considering also that my Mercury is in Taurus and conjuncts my Ascendant).), I know that my descendant would be Scorpio.

Based on the chart placement though, my descendant is like right on the line where 6th ends and 7th begins...so I have no idea what this means to start.

But also there is the fact that I attract a lot of Scorpios into my life. One guy that I've grown up with is a Scorpio (we're life long friends), my ex-best friend who is currently engaged to my ex-boyfriend (Capricorn-Aquarius cusp) is a Scorpio, my best-co-worker-friend is a Scorpio, my dog is a Scorpio, and these are just the people closest to me.

I mean, in looking at my Mars in Cancer, which is basically who I'm supposedly attracted to sexually, I look for the silent, stoic-type who can be protective and masculine (which I admit, does stimulate some thoughts). But then, in reading about the Scorpio male, I realize that's exactly the type I AM attracted to and hope to be with for a long-term relationship with. For the record, being a Gemini, I don't do relationship after relationship. After my ex dumped me to go out with my ex-best friend six years ago, I haven't been in a relationship since. And no, not because I'm pathetic and not over him. Just that I realized I needed to time to get to know me, to figure out what I want, and to acknowledge that when I do go into a relationship, I'm looking for real long-term material in a man. But in looking at characteristics of a Scorpio man, I realize those are the ones I could find myself wanting a man to desperately have.

posted September 18, 2013 02:29 AM            

I think they could have some Scorpio flavor without actually being Scorpio.

posted September 18, 2013 03:20 PM            

Like Zander said, if the man has some of his planets in aspect to Pluto, they may still feel Plutonic/Scorpio.

I was wondering... that Mars in Cancer you have, does it make an aspect to Pluto? That would point at these types as well. It's also a water sign, so feelings - and having feelings for a man - means a lot to you. You want someone who doesn't get scared off when you show them your own passion, someone who will share this with you. That explains why you say you don't feel like the typical Gemini, too. Scorpio can also trine your Mars. I wouldn't be surprised if at least some of these people in your life did.

You got it right, by the way, that line is the Descendant. It's exactly opposite of your Ascendant and it shows indeed other people.

If you haven't already, then looking up some threads by the user Lotis White could help a lot. She's very good, explains things clearly and she's written a lot on relationships, attraction and the types you are attracted to. It's a very good read.

posted September 19, 2013 10:05 AM            

And yes, meissieri, I actually do have some aspects between my watery signs. My Mars (Cancer) trines my Pluto (Scorpio) And funnily enough, my Pluto trines my Chiron (Cancer as well). So, I'm guessing this grand love between my partner and I will also be some sort of a healing energy between us. Also my Capricorn Saturn and Neptune both sextile my Pluto as well. So Pluto seems to be a bit dominant in my chart. lol. I will definitely make sure to take a look at that thread you so generously copied and pasted for me!

posted September 19, 2013 10:49 AM            

You are attracted to the TRAITS of the ASC sign and not usually the sign itself ime

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posted September 19, 2013 04:09 PM            

Ibringyouasong, how does that sound?

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Firstly, I want to thank you both for answering me! I still haven't even gotten replies yet on my natal chart reading, but this is fantastic, thank you!

And yes, meissieri, I actually do have some aspects between my watery signs. My Mars (Cancer) trines my Pluto (Scorpio) And funnily enough, my Pluto trines my Chiron (Cancer as well). So, I'm guessing this grand love between my partner and I will also be some sort of a healing energy between us. Also my Capricorn Saturn and Neptune both sextile my Pluto as well. So Pluto seems to be a bit dominant in my chart. lol. I will definitely make sure to take a look at that thread you so generously copied and pasted for me!

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You're welcome. But all credit goes to Lotus White, though, her posts have taught me so much. Shame you haven't gotten a reply yet over there, it's a pretty busy board but it's tough waiting for a reply there. Hope you will get some soon... maybe this helps in the meantime?

Haha, I knew it. The Pluto-Chiron trine is very nice - I think a tight one feels very personal (I have this in my chart, too) and as the ruler of your Descendant (Pluto rules Scorpio), I imagine it'd be even stronger. Oh, and Mars trines it, too? Then I'd definitely keep that in mind for the men you're attracted to. Does your Pluto make any more aspects?

posted September 19, 2013 07:10 PM            

Um, actually...my Pluto conjuncts both my Saturn and Neptune - both are Capricorn and in the 8th house. According to astro.com's drawn-up natal chart, it says that Pluto is a dominant force in it. Which I find odd - considering that both my moon and sun seem to have more aspects, along with aspecting each other. Mars doesn't do anything with my Chiron - just Pluto. With Pluto being in Scorpio and aspecting my Chiron, does this make me more susceptible to "Scorpio-esque" types? What does it mean?

posted September 21, 2013 06:41 PM            

Pluto-Chiron, for as far as I know, is just extra strong on healing. You'd have a lot of potential to be someone who can go through a lot, suffer, and come out stronger (Pluto's rebirth aspect). Bob Marks' website says it means having to deal with power and possibly suppressing your own. It can be that Plutonic things - darker issues, psychology, the occult, taboos - are healing in a way. Getting the truth out. But maybe you've read that article? (Yes, I did look it up to be sure, haha.)

You know, that's really good. What I love about astrology is how it helps you find out what you're looking for slowly but surely. The passion is exciting and it's less in-your-face than the Aries kind of Mars. Someone with quiet strength. Would you say that's true for you?

True, there are so many threads out here, it's easy to overlook a few. So many gems too. I guess there's always something new to learn here! Wow, I see it's been helping you already. Maybe a combo of Scorpio/Pluto with some earthiness would give you what you're looking for? A little earth would please your Taurus Mercury, Capricorn and Juno, too.

Sorry about your last relationship. It's always hard finding out that something didn't turn out the way you'd hoped for. I don't think that ever really gets better. Yes, it's not always easy to tell what kind of feelings they are. Are you okay now?

posted September 25, 2013 11:09 PM            

Wow, I had no idea that that kind of connection provided that sort of facet. And yeah, actually, I have gone through some rough stuff (so far) in my young life. Matter of fact, this past year was the hardest trial I've gone through in the twenty-four years I've been alive. And not to say that other people's problems aren't more severe than mine, but it was really hard to pull myself back together. But I managed - thank you Pluto/Chiron! And yes, I would say that I do have that kind of strength because people often depend on me to be a "listening-rock" for them, and I do let them vent and, I suppose, give them sage-like advice. I can only hope that the my future mate/spouse will either be as strong as me or stronger.

I have been noticing a lot lately that some of my main personality points actually stem from a more Taurean side of me - so I definitely think that someone who's just as earthy as me would be good so that they can ground my Airy Gemini whilst his Watery/Scorpio/Pluto side would dig deep into the more Earthy side of me. If that makes sense at all?

It concerns me a little about my 5th house being Virgo and having Juno in it. I mean, I can be a bit critical sometimes (alright, I can be downright cynical too sometimes), but I don't want to be such an ass to my future true love that they feel insecure about me even being with them in the first place. I mean, yes, I have an ideal in my head and I definitely know what I'm physically attracted to (again, the earthy/sensual Taurean in me loves beauty of any kind - so I know definitely that I'm attracted to good looking, blond, blue-eyed guys who are tall and have a great smile), but I know that fantasy guys almost either never compare to the real thing or never come close. For now, I can say that I'd be lucky and happy enough to hit the true love/ soul mate lotto.

Yeah...it was a rough patch. Another thing that the Pluto/Chiron energy got me through after a year of cursing him and then another year of getting over the anger. We had some communication issues - which is a big "no, no" for us Gemini's - and him not knowing what he wanted/being weak. He was dominated too much by his parents and never had the courage to really stick up for himself or even for me. So it was a young, stupid, run-of-the-mill high school transitioning into college romance that ran its course for ten months (we came close to breaking up at five months). And really it ended because he decided not to talk to me for two weeks while I begged him to through messages and voicemail and he decided to pal around with my ex-best friend who was still dating MY best friend that I'd known since 4th grade (both of them the Scorpios I had mentioned before). She broke up with him - he totally didn't see it coming - and he couldn't tell me straight whether he wanted to be with me or just be friends (I hate indecision with a passion - especially my own). So, I went away for a weekend to visit my grandparents and when I came back, my best friend - the male Scorpio - told me check his ex-girlfriend's art blog - the female Scorpio - about her current relationship status. Needless to say, the betrayal was a huge shock; I couldn't eat or sleep for two weeks, and when I went back to school for my sophomore year, I threw myself into my work to bury my emotions. Both my male Scorpio friend and I commiserated over our sufferings and it actually made our bond - as an older brother and a younger sister - stronger. He managed to get over it a bit faster than I did since, from what I understand, Scorpios don't like to dwell on people who have hurt them badly. I, on the other hand, can sit around gnaw on the same worrisome piece of grass as any other person who doesn't know how to let go of things.

And no, I'm completely over it now. It's been six years and after three years of awkward and strained run-ins with both of them - on account of us all having the same group of friends - we have made peace. I had messaged him after one Christmas and said it was time to put the past behind us and to start over. We may not be good friends - and I can safely say on both ends, we agree it's better that way - but we can joke and laugh about the good times we had once without feeling bad on both sides. And I know I had hurt him with how I conducted myself during fights and how my frustration and temper often caused me to lash out - but I like to think that I've matured since then. But only time can tell, I guess. That, and when I finally meet the "ONE."

posted September 26, 2013 01:37 AM            

Thanks for getting back to me! And yes, that thread helped me a lot. I'm actually going to start going through some of the pages and see if there's any more unnoticed gems in the stockpile. lol

Geesh!! And you say that you don't "feel" like a Gemini?

I'm curious as to what positions your Moon and Venus are in.

In my instance, I have Venus in Scorpio trine Moon in Cancer.

The type of people that I make the best partnerships with usualy exhibit strong Cancerian traits(Moon sign); caring, emotional, good listeners, like to "mother" (even the guys).

The type of things which I like are connected to Venus in Scorpio; money, power, status, psychology, sexual issues, crime,intimacy, death etc.

posted September 27, 2013 03:20 PM            

Um, both my Venus and Moon are in Gemini as well. And I have a triple trine between my Sun, Moon, and Venus - though my Venus is in the 2nd House (which, according to the houses for me, is Gemini anywho, sooo...)

I guess the reason why I say I don't feel very "Gemini-like" is because for the most part, we're painted as people who are flighty, hard-to-tie-down, and non-committal. That's so the opposite of me. I think it's because I have a lot of earth in my chart to balance out the airy qualities of me (especially since I have a bigger stellium of planets in Gemini).

posted October 02, 2013 06:53 AM            

guess the reason why I say I don't feel very "Gemini-like" is because for the most part, we're painted as people who are flighty, hard-to-tie-down, and non-committal. That's so the opposite of me. I think it's because I have a lot of earth in my chart to balance out the airy qualities of me (especially since I have a bigger stellium of planets in Gemini).

neh...don't buy into that.

When you are suffering from an ailment below your stomach and they perform a scan around the area where the pain comes from and find nothing!!! Who is telling the truth? The machine or you?

I think websites mean well but they are not always spot on.

I also have a concentration of Sag planets and I'm supposed to be "irresponsible" and "carefree" etc. But I am not like that. Well, not nearly enough as suggested.

posted October 02, 2013 06:21 PM            

Both my Sun and Moon conjunct each other at the same time while just my Moon conjuncts my Venus.

But both of my Moon and Sun, again, both conjunct my Jupiter (Gemini) at the same as well.

posted October 04, 2013 05:13 AM            

But I can be sad for a while and once my heart has made a decision to love something or someone, that's usually pretty much it for me.

The Sun/Moon conjunction can have an “all or nothing” approach to things that it is passionate about.

When involved in something, it is in it “heart and all”.

The same could be inferred from a Scorpio Sun placement: They can let their emotions dominate.

posted October 09, 2013 02:07 AM            

Oh, hey cool, milly! That's actually funny - my mom is Virgo ascendant, which means her descendant is Pisces. I don't know what ascendant my dad is - I don't know his birth time specifically - but I know that his moon was Pisces and I believe that there was some negative connections to that 'cause not only did he have trouble expressing any sort of loving emotion to her and me, but he also became very self-centered, selfish, and controlling. Hence why they're divorced now. But that's a tale for another day.

posted October 19, 2013 06:21 AM            

I have Sagittarius as my Sun sign and that would mean that I am drawn to someone with a Gemini Ascendant.

The Moon in Cancer adds emotional depth and so, it unlikely that I'll have the same cavalier attitude as the typical Sagittarius Sun sign.

I would, with this Moon position, be more comfortable in an emotionally invested relationship(tenderness, sympathy , connection etc)

I wouldn't say that the typical Gemini ascendant would offer me that much emotional re-assurance. I reckon that the disagreements would be due to my "mood swings" and oversensitivity.lol

But given that my Sun sign is Sagittarius, this 7th house connection would be powerful. We would have to do our best to accommodate our differences because the attraction to each other would be too strong.

Similarly, with my Taurus Ascendant, I'll be drawn to the Scorpio Sun sign too.

If the Scorpio Sun concerned has their moon in Aries/Virgo, I'll have to deal with their fiery nature /tendency to be overly critical.

The attraction to each other would be too strong for me to just walk away.

posted October 19, 2013 08:28 AM            

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posted October 21, 2013 12:13 PM            

I have Scorpio ascendent and thus Taurus descendant and am very much attracted to men with Taurus traits. I even like the Taurus body type. I like men who are built like bulls. And I have a special affection for bulldogs.

Astrology is SO fun!

posted October 23, 2013 01:06 AM            

AscTaurus: Woah. You got more to look forward to - shopping wise - than I do! But I understand what you're saying. Like you explained before with my Sun/Moon connection (and vice versa), I'm an all or nothing type. And believe me, I know a good deal about mood swings (Gemini moon, we're all over the place with our feelings!). With my Mars in Cancer - which is the fall, I know - I am interested in guys who are emotional (though, not Piscean emotional), who project a great deal of masculinity, and are protective. Which does attract me a lot to water signs, specifically, Scorpios. Similarly, it sounds like you're looking for someone who can provide the emotional depth that you crave but also be light enough (or airy enough) to be supportive and not overly-critical. Perhaps even more adventuresome than what you'd expect. That's something I like myself, but for an air sign, what we crave most is communication. For me, I constantly need to hear the truth, even if I don't like it or if it's not pretty. But at the same time, I do need that strong support that someone can offer me so that I don't give up on my dreams or don't become so hard on myself - which I have tendency to do with self-esteem issues and zero confidence. lol. With as much earth in me as I have - for an air sign - I also do need someone who's also "grounded" as well as "deep" and looking for a soulful connection. So perhaps, it comes back to the basic truth of it all: Two opposites who bring about balance. But hey, fiery can be fun!

AmiAnne: Always a pleasure to hear from you! And thanks for the two cents! You could very well be right! I very much admire the traits of a Scorpio. I read somewhere - as stated above - that our descendants are very much our "shadow selves" or what we lack. So you're right about that. That's why the descendant very much highlights what we look for in others, as well as our relationships with all sorts of people; friends, lovers, spouses, business partners, etc... The funny thing with my situation is, I keep attracting Scorpios, along with other water signs, into my life non-stop. So it just seems to make sense to me that I'll either be with a Scorpio themselves or someone with a lot of Pluto energy. From what astro.com has said about my chart, that would make sense since Pluto is actually more dominant in my chart than my airy planets and Sun. Does this make sense to you?

posted October 24, 2013 06:56 PM            

I see him as my ideal, but I am scared to death of all that Gemini (player?).

posted October 27, 2013 12:01 PM            

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LucieLemonade: So you know exactly how I feel! As someone with a Taurean ascendant - and a Mercury in Taurus (plus Venus in the 2nd house), we crave someone who is pleasing to the eye, is passionate enough to unlock the passions we keep under lock and key, supportive, and will let us show them how to smell the roses while they show us how to grow and raise them. Being a sucker for the blue-eyed, blond-haired myself, I know that most Scorpios possess penetrating stares that see down deep into the core of you. Being around Scorpios the majority of my life - very good friends with them - I've marveled at their intensity, have come to understand it, and deeply appreciate it and want it for myself - or, projected at me, at least, lol. As I told AmiAnne, I admire a great deal of their traits and would either love to find someone who beholds those traits or maybe even brings those traits to life in me. But as for the physical - oh yeah. I could definitely live with that![/B]

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I do see what you are saying!

I'm scorpio asc and venus in scorpio so i can come across quite intense and people tell me i have that penetrating stare. i do have to tone it down. It can make people uncomfortable. I try to channel more of the fun light hearted Sag (sun).

The truth is it's really only now that I'm putting all this stuff about me together. Having family and friends who were into astrology I only ever knew enough to keep myself out of really big trouble.

But looking more into it is helping me work out and accept what I really want deep down. I do want someone strong, stable and yes! even stubborn. I smile when I'm confronted by someone who is stubborn and not the bad boy flakey exciting wishy washy type.

It's helping me handle better the bad stuff too. It's easier to deal with the bad stuff when you know where it's coming from, including bad stuff I have done by not understanding how my actions influenced or affected others.

posted October 27, 2013 12:23 PM            

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There could be something genuinely valid about the 7th house being the area of partnerships and whom you are likely to marry.

I have Sagittarius as my Sun sign and that would mean that I am drawn to someone with a Gemini Ascendant.

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I just saw this post. My 7th house is in Taurus with Saturn in Taurus in it. I definitely like solid dependable responsible loyal men, and was attracted to older men when I was young. Was married a very very dependable down to earth Leo for many years.