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Ami Anne
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posted October 02, 2013 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What makes the Yod so complicated and time consuming are the LAYERS.

We have about 10 layers, maybe. You will see what I mean as I go on.

first of all, we start with the Saturn quincunx Sun and Uranus quincunx Sun. We. have to know what this means. We have to look at the houses, too

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posted October 02, 2013 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm
You have Saturn in the 11th and Uranus in the 12th and they are the same degree. You would have to be totally sure of your exact second of birth to figure out which house the Saturn was in, I think.


The House of saturn would be very pivotal to the Yod, so lets see if you have a 11th or 12th house Saturn.

Do you feel that you are on the outside looking in, as a general kind of feeling? If you saw a group of people and really wanted to join, would it be very hard for you.

It is hard for everyone but for Saturn in the 12th, it is super hard ime

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posted October 02, 2013 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrologic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
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You have Saturn in the 11th and Uranus in the 12th and they are the same degree. You would have to be totally sure of your exact second of birth to figure out which house the Saturn was in, I think.


The House of saturn would be very pivotal to the Yod, so lets see if you have a 11th or 12th house Saturn.

Do you feel that you are on the outside looking in, as a general kind of feeling? If you saw a group of people and really wanted to join, would it be very hard for you.

It is hard for everyone but for Saturn in the 12th, it is super hard ime


Yes, the time is the time on my birth certificate, I wish I knew the EXACT time to the second!

I do have a hard time 'joining in' things, but I am not sure if it is a super hard time because I have always been that way-therefore I have nothing to compare it to if that makes any sense. And it's not necessarily a feeling that I *can't* join in, I mostly choose not to. But that could be just a facade due to conditioning. (I'm contradictory!)

What would be the stipulations of Saturn in the 11th if that were the case? If I had two different 'feelings' to choose from I would probably have a better time deciding if it is in the 11th or 12th house.

It is exciting that there are aspects in my chart that you have never seen! I really REALLY appreciate the time that you are taking to help me out! Truly a blessing!

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posted October 03, 2013 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrologic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Or do houses have cusps?

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posted October 03, 2013 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for those kind words, Friend. I love compliments. Darn libra ASC

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posted October 03, 2013 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, this is how I would distinguish between Saturn in the 11th or 12th cuz I know people with each and there is a difference in intensity.

Saturn in the 11th is afraid of groups to some degree, intimidated, one could say.

Saturn in the 12th has a pervasive sense of not being able to connect, in general

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posted October 03, 2013 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Think deeply about this as the Yod would differ based on the Houses. Don't feel weird if it is the 12th House. We are all weirdos

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posted October 04, 2013 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrologic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Well, this is how I would distinguish between Saturn in the 11th or 12th cuz I know people with each and there is a difference in intensity.

Saturn in the 11th is afraid of groups to some degree, intimidated, one could say.

Saturn in the 12th has a pervasive sense of not being able to connect, in general


Ok. I have thought about this a lot. I feel afraid intimidated of/in groups...because I have a hard time connecting to others. I do not find myself in group settings often because I do avoid this. I am probably going to sound a bit crazy but I am really good at pretending to connect with others in general and going through the motions because I know how society is supposed to work and how people are supposed to interact. Really every moment is calculated until I get to km now someone on a more personal level but am honestly happy with my anal handful of friends who feel like and understand me. Sorry for the late reply I have been really busy..albeit not meeting people but busy nonetheless! Lol

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Ami, can I use the illustration of a yod in http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html#ty to calculate mine?

For instance, I've Sun opposite Mars, Mars trine Venus and almost trining Pluto, Pluto e Venus semisextiling Sun, very much like in the picture... Or is that wrong?

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posted October 05, 2013 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
Ami, can I use the illustration of a yod in http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html#ty to calculate mine?

For instance, I've Sun opposite Mars, Mars trine Venus and almost trining Pluto, Pluto e Venus semisextiling Sun, very much like in the picture... Or is that wrong?


FRiend

The Yod is two quincunx on each side of the triangle and a sextile as the base. If you don't have these EXACT aspects, you don't have a Yod

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posted October 05, 2013 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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FRiend

The Yod is two quincunx on each side of the triangle and a sextile as the base. If you don't have these EXACT aspects, you don't have a Yod


I didn't think I did, until I saw the picture... it confused me for a moment there. My quincunxes make an X mark, not a triangle.

Thanks, Ami!

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posted October 05, 2013 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are welcome, Friend xx

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posted October 05, 2013 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrologic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ok. I have thought about this a lot. I feel afraid intimidated of/in groups...because I have a hard time connecting to others. I do not find myself in group settings often because I do avoid this. I am probably going to sound a bit crazy but I am really good at pretending to connect with others in general and going through the motions because I know how society is supposed to work and how people are supposed to interact. Really every moment is calculated until I get to km now someone on a more personal level but am honestly happy with my anal handful of friends who feel like and understand me. Sorry for the late reply I have been really busy..albeit not meeting people but busy nonetheless! Lol

...feeling really awkward now!

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posted October 06, 2013 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it too personal to do your Yod like this?We can stop, if you would rather. The way I do the charts is very real and deep. I have Jung conj the Sun and I see things in this way.

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posted October 06, 2013 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That sounds like Saturn in the 12th. We can go on, if you want or just stop, if it is too personal, Friend

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posted October 07, 2013 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrologic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am ok with continuing on if you are. Thank you so much!

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Originally posted by Astrologic:
I am ok with continuing on if you are. Thank you so much!

Ok Friend


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posted October 07, 2013 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We will put Saturn in the 12th and go on. I have the sense it is there, so we will go with that, if that is OK

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posted October 07, 2013 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where did we leave off. I think we just were trying to figure out Saturn's House.

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Yes..saturn in the 12th sounds good to me. I think we were just trying to figure out what ho9use saturn is in. I dont know what happens next, what aspects do we look at first?

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Yes..saturn in the 12th sounds good to me. I think we were just trying to figure out what ho9use saturn is in. I dont know what happens next, what aspects do we look at first?

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posted October 08, 2013 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok Cool. We have our next step and that will be one of the quincunx. The Yod is two quincunx as the sides of the triangle( which are the struggles) and the sextile as the base( which is the solution)


We look at signs and houses, too.

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posted October 08, 2013 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, we have Saturn and Uranus in the 12th quinc Jupiter in the 4th. WE will start there.

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Ok--the 12th house placement of these planets has a certain meaning. It shows us that these sides of you will be suppressed. The 12th house is the HARDEST placement of any in the whole chart.

That has to be understood by people who have 12th house placements. They have to understand where their angst comes from and it is a greater angst than a person w/out 12th house planets.

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posted October 08, 2013 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus in the 12th is hidden kink, to put it into a short phrase.

saturn in the 12th is a sense of isolation that nothing seems to break( except God) imo

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