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Ami Anne
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posted October 21, 2013 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK I have a few questions. Do you miss chances like you are a bit off in your timing etc?

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PlutoSurvivor
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posted October 29, 2013 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't miss out on chances by being off in my timing, but I wait.....a lot......because I have a hard time deciding what to choose. There are always opportunities coming along and I know that if I wait there will always be more opportunities for me to take advantage of when I am ready. I don't regret not taking chances, yet NN 5H wants me to take chances, in order to feel alive, and when I do that I am much happier.

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posted October 29, 2013 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been thinking a lot about anaretic (29 degree) planets lately. I've only seen one other 29 Jupiter, but it was in 8H Cancer conjunct Uranus.

I see anaretic Pluto most often, at 29 Leo or 29 Virgo, probably because of how slowly it moves. This is the most difficult I think, because there is usually a major crisis that brings on personal transformation. They just don't get it, until some change is forced upon them.

With 29 Mercury there is usually difficulty speaking up for themselves, usually by way of a stutter or hesitation in speech. I've seen it in one chart with a physical brain disorder, and in another it was coupled with with obsessive compulsive tendency. But mostly it is something to do with the speech.

Rarely do I see 29 degree Sun, Venus or Mars.

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posted October 29, 2013 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, with anaretic planets, I think the house position of the planet that rules the sign is important, especially for anaretic Pluto.

For instance, with 29 Pluto in Virgo, look to Mercury (which rules Virgo) and the house placement and that will tell you a lot about the nature of the personal transformation.

Here's a specific chart example:
29 Pluto in 3H Virgo, Mercury in 10H
This person will gain personal transformation from paying attention to details, every day details, that would affect their reputation or how they achieve their ambitions.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 29, 2013 06:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow PS

Interesting. Thanks!

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posted November 06, 2013 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, I am working on a thread with those!

(As time permits)
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum34/HTML/001499.html

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posted November 06, 2013 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoSurvivor:
Also, with anaretic planets, I think the house position of the planet that rules the sign is important, especially for anaretic Pluto.

For instance, with 29 Pluto in Virgo, look to Mercury (which rules Virgo) and the house placement and that will tell you a lot about the nature of the personal transformation.

Here's a specific chart example:
29 Pluto in 3H Virgo, Mercury in 10H
This person will gain personal transformation from paying attention to details, every day details, that would affect their reputation or how they achieve their ambitions.


I learn new things every day on this forum! My head is spinning. I've been dealing with my Saturn issues, which frankly aren't so bad. So I feel I've been distracted by those and should have been concentrating on the squares to Pluto.

Pluto scares me more than Saturn at this point. So reading this is making me more freaked out.

I thought the squares were bad enough. Does the fact that Pluto is in 29deg make it even worse?


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posted November 06, 2013 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll try to get that one on the list by tomorrow. (My daughter has a big game tonight!)

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posted November 07, 2013 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
I'll try to get that one on the list by tomorrow. (My daughter has a big game tonight!)

Thank you! Whenever you can. I've got plenty to read and learn. So no rush.

I hope your daughter did well at her big game!

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posted November 07, 2013 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you.

It's Up!

(You should have seen my younger daughter wearing her sister's Seniors football shirt to Middle School today. They'll all think she is dating an older man, ha!)

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posted November 08, 2013 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
Thank you.

It's Up!

(You should have seen my younger daughter wearing her sister's Seniors football shirt to Middle School today. They'll all think she is dating an older man, ha!)


Thank you! I saw it.... I think it's a bit over my head at my current knowledge level. Eeks!

Cute!!! I always wanted a sister. Got two brothers instead. They're not bad. I'll keep 'em.

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posted November 29, 2013 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
Hey, I am working on a thread with those!

(As time permits)
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum34/HTML/001499.html


I followed your thread. Thanks for continuing anaretic degree discussion. From which Sakoian & Acker book did you quote that material?

It sounds logical but it doesn't correspond exactly to the chart studies that I have done. Very helpful starting point, though. Thanks again.

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posted November 29, 2013 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
I learn new things every day on this forum! My head is spinning. I've been dealing with my Saturn issues, which frankly aren't so bad. So I feel I've been distracted by those and should have been concentrating on the squares to Pluto.

Pluto scares me more than Saturn at this point. So reading this is making me more freaked out.

I thought the squares were bad enough. Does the fact that Pluto is in 29deg make it even worse?


Don't let any of it scare you

If you are talking about Saturn and Pluto in your natal chart, then Saturn has you focusing on your habits, the ones that need to be changed. Saturn when aspected well provides a lot of help from other planets to make the conscious choice to change your habits.

Pluto shows you where Personal Transformation is in order. Squares to Pluto provide blocks to transformation and the anaretic degree makes you feel stuck in life.

That's not bad if the other planets in your chart show placements that will help you balance out life experiences and/or perhaps create a great opportunity for accomplishments. It can make you so strong in the end. It all depends on the actual individual chart placements - so hard to generalize.

Just don't worry about it - dig deep into the meaning of your own chart's individual placements to see how it benefits you.

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Ellynlvx
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posted November 30, 2013 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PlutoSurvivor:
I followed your thread. Thanks for continuing anaretic degree discussion. From which Sakoian & Acker book did you quote that material?

It sounds logical but it doesn't correspond exactly to the chart studies that I have done. Very helpful starting point, though. Thanks again.



"Predictive Astrology."

I have read that it is out of print and hard to find.

It is an Excellent Book.

Bryan Wilkins holds the rights, but no-one can seem to find him.


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Ellynlvx
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posted November 30, 2013 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Was considering doing the Retrograde Planets pages as well.

They were just so beyond most interpretations in this and "The Astrologer's Handbook." Funny how the Synastry book wasn't as good.

Later read a Yoga book and found out that they had a pretty good community around Concord.

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PlutoSurvivor
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posted December 02, 2013 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, thanks Ellynlvx, for sharing out of print information

It's funny, how the "good" information disappears from the book shelves...

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