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Topic: Ami Anne, lets talk a little bit?
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Billy_Wroth
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From: Suzano, SP, Brazil
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posted January 26, 2014 05:58 PM
  
I've found this link: http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/chiron21.5.html and the sign description fits me 100% because I passed through every thing related there."Chiron in the 7th house: This one might spend all of their time taking care of a partner who has some debility. It is also someone who gives great advise on marriage, while their own marriage is on the rocks (or they might not even be married). This can work for business partnerships as well. You can take great care of a partner and teach them how to do the business better than you ever could. Watch out that they don't dump you as soon as they learn all that they can from you." "Chiron in Libra: Relationships are affected by this placement. Libra shows the place in our life where we need (and usually want) to cooperate. With Chiron placed here, one possibility is that we could shun any cooperation and isolate ourselves (shades of the opposite sign, Aries). Another possibility is a partner who manages to open up our old psychological wounds (or causes some new ones). Conversely, the person with this placement could be the one to open other people's old wounds. Lots of times, Chiron in Libra people will desperately want a partner, but once they get one, they will drive them away." "Chiron and the Ascendant: Since the Ascendant is always exactly opposite the Descendant, an aspect to one is also an aspect to the other. This means if you have a Chiron/Ascendant aspect, you must have a Chiron/Descendant aspect as well. As a result, this combination affects the way we start things, our initial approach to the world, and the way people see us (Ascendant). But it also affects the way we relate to others (Descendant). People with Chiron/Ascendant aspects can be great teachers or healers, but there is a wild side that can come to the surface. It becomes easier to "wound" others or be wounded by them. A positive way to use this would be to help others work through their problems. Rona Barrett, the gossip columnist, is a perfect example. She has Chiron in her 10th house (career) in the sign of Gemini (communications) and it is square her Ascendant. She has made a career out of making the wounds of others (Descendant) public (10th house)."
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Ami Anne
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posted January 26, 2014 06:30 PM
I don't understand the Nodes of the planets and right now, it is too much to try to learn but it does sound fascinating for another time, Billy dear.Let me say this about Chiron, I don't want to pronounce anything on you, my Friend. I just believe that the house of Chiron will be our biggest area of pain. That does not mean you won't have serious relationships, get married etc I just think that your particular wound will be here. We all have a Chiron somewhere and although the wounds are different, we each have a wound. ------------------
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Billy_Wroth
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posted January 26, 2014 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I don't understand the Nodes of the planets and right now, it is too much to try to learn but it does sound fascinating for another time, Billy dear.Let me say this about Chiron, I don't want to pronounce anything on you, my Friend. I just believe that the house of Chiron will be our biggest area of pain. That does not mean you won't have serious relationships, get married etc I just think that your particular wound will be here. We all have a Chiron somewhere and although the wounds are different, we each have a wound.
Yes yes, I fear the wound of Chiron, it is said to be an impossible cure for our own at least. The nodes are very interesting yes, but as you said, it demands studying. I'll give a look or another with some ease. Just to don't kill the thread, lets talk about a nasty one, Lilith. There are so many and I've been in some threads in the forum gathering info about her. She seems to amaze everyone else. But I could not find a good text about the interpolated Lilith meaning, what she differs. She hits my sun like no other Lilith, so express more conscious for me I guess. What about your experiences? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted January 26, 2014 07:16 PM
Lilith is not nasty. She is cool. She is raw sexuality imo------------------
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Billy_Wroth
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posted January 27, 2014 07:11 AM
She amazes me, but most people can't handle her and so become a nasty one, at least in my experiences. She is like the Pluto inside of the Moon, something much more close to us but yet so deep and dark.I was giving a look in some links talking about her. She is a primal source of femininity, like Moon in our charts is the major feminine source. I just want to know more now about Lilith and Moon relationship, I'll dive on my charts here for a while seeking good aspects between then. But just to know, where is your Lilith Ami? IP: Logged |
Billy_Wroth
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posted January 27, 2014 07:36 AM
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Ami Anne
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posted January 27, 2014 03:44 PM
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Originally posted by Billy_Wroth:
How you think she works for a boy?
To me, Lilith is raw sexuality. That is how I have honed it down. Others may disagree and I may modify what I think at a later date but for now, I see it as raw sexuality in a man or a women's chart.
To me, it acts the same, basically, Billy.
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Billy_Wroth
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posted January 27, 2014 04:58 PM
umm, so raw sexuality does not know boundaries right? So what can limit her?Maybe she really have to do with our sexuality in its behavior since the Lilith what trines my sun is in accord with the fact I grew knowing exactly what I like sexually. I mean, it was of my conscience know how my sexuality works, since I was 8. As well I had my first contacts while still a child and that's one of the things that for me shows why my mean lilith is more meaningful. Cuz she is in the 4th house.
I doubt where to find my True Lilith influence. I dunno where she lives in my mind. Perhaps its even a signal of the inconjunct that she makes to my sun, a hard to fit and understand nature.
But what exactly would drive me so strongly to man? Mars only makes a significance aspect on True Lilith, opposing her. Its very interesting indeed to look at it. In comparison my Venus is so strong with this conjunction with Pluto and Nessus. All my relationships are fueled by those planets but sometimes sounds like Venus is more like my men lover side, rather than women. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted January 27, 2014 05:14 PM
Hmm
Is the question why you are attracted to men. I only use the asteroid Lilith, just because she seems to be the one I understand.Raw sexuality does not mean out of control sexuality, to me. Raw means primal and unbridled but not out of control like if you see a singer put all his passion into his music. That could be raw sexuality into music but it is not out of control? Habla Espanol. Me gusta Juanes.Yo estudio espanol en mi cass. Es muy bonita a migo. Eschucha esso  ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted January 27, 2014 05:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbRtNR-H08I ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted January 27, 2014 05:15 PM
To me, confusion in sexuality, if you want to call it that, would be Mars sq venus. Do you have that? You can tell me or I will look in a bit.------------------
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Billy_Wroth
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posted January 28, 2014 07:59 AM
Oh, its so nice to talk with you but back to the thread:
There is no particular connection between my Mars and my Venus if not the Latitude. I don't think I confuse man's role or woman's and sexuality for me is very complex to state only for those two. Gender identity disorder could be related with this but it is hard to know. I have a friend who born a girl but now is a boy, indeed I met this person as being He already and was a surprise to know his past. In his Chart Venus does not hit Mars too, but Venus in Leo square the dominant Pluto, while Mars squares the NN and Juno. In his case I see those energies interacting on his psychological behavior. But both describes him as well, as I feel that Venus in scorp completely describes me in love as Mars do as well, but sometimes for other situations too (I'm not the patient type).Some astrologers believe that Venus in a man's chart rules the idea of woman, while Mars is the truly relevant planet for a man, while it goes the opposite for woman. But I think everyone has a feminine and a masculine side inside but some "society pillars" create that sexist culture idea. There are people of all kinds since a long time, beyond their gender and sexuality. It's not because I like man that I will be more "Venus" type, indeed I'm very Martian in some way and another, but I don't deny my own femininity. It's like lilith, works for both.
My Venus and Mars: Venus 26° Scorp Lat 0°10' 4" S Dec 19°34'31" S Mars 7° Saggi Lat 0°44'54" S Dec 22°21'19" S A music that describes my Venus in love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTKJ_itifQg *I love depeche mode a lot but this video is not that cool for me LOL but I love that song so much. An interesting observation is that my True Lilith opposes Mars and inconjuncts my Sun while the interpolated Lilith inconjuncts my Mars and trines my Sun. Now that I'm thinking here, I guess this plays a lot in my sexual behavior, but still I am not sure of what it adds across the fact that my IBML hiting my sun brings me conscience and I ALWAYS KNEW I like men, since very, but really very young. And again about Lilith, I like your view about Lilith. I agree with this vision of raw sexuality, but as I said every experience I had with her was like dealing with Pluto in a more "underneath" way.
_____________________________________________ Cool that you like Spanish, I'm Brazilian so I speak Portuguese which one is very similar. But I hate those many time modes of verb conjugations and some other rules, so I hate Spanish DX. But I love Italian though, just because sounds more like Latin, and I love anything related with Roman culture. Indeed I'm Italian descendant. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted January 28, 2014 09:46 AM
And again about Lilith, I like your view about Lilith. I agree with this vision of raw sexuality, but as I said every experience I had with her was like dealing with Pluto in a more "underneath" way.Brilliant, Billy. This says it all. You are a natural astrologer. You should check and see where your Astrowizard asteroid is. I bet it is prominent. Look in the asteroid Forum! I can't speak to the other forms of Lilith because I don't use them. It was very confusing and I moved on. Also, many explanations did not sit with me because they were very new agey and I am a Bible believer, so some things I filter out. I did this with many of the Lilith info. So, I am gonna stick with the Asteroid, only, for the time being. Your info on sexuality was very interesting and enlightening. Thanks for sharing it, Billy dear. Did you have another question? ------------------
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Billy_Wroth
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posted January 28, 2014 11:48 AM
Oh thank you so much, I always had the feeling I was a "cheap" astrologer. Perhaps my researches really brought me more consistence. I guess I'll start to charge the consults I do for my friends XD.The asteroids: Urania Saggi 2° - conjunct Pluto (2°-3°)
9th house cusp (2°)
trines Pallas
Vesta (1°) Astrowizzard Virgo 11° - squares mars (3°)
semisquare True NN (0°) I prefer my Urania situation D: lololol
anyway I like more to use Roman/Greek themed asteroids. Casanova is the only true exception for me :DDDD. I quite don't have many questions now. I'm just collecting info about tons of asteroids because I will start a series of drawings with everyone of them, representing my chart. It will be huge collection in a baroque style where I represent artistically their position and aspects to other planets and asteroids. I hope to upload soon and show to you guys!
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Billy_Wroth
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posted January 28, 2014 01:15 PM
Amy, I got a question:
How to deal with my Saturn?
 Saturn Rx Pisces 12th House squares
Jupiter Saggi 9th House(said to be chart ruler) This is the aspect in my chart that mostly preoccupies me. quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
6. Saturn in the 12th house–I call this placement “The Child who Sits on the Sidelines but Wants to Enter the Group so badly but is afraid of humiliation” Saturn in the 12th feels left out. He feels that he does not fit in any group. He feels that other people are doing it to him( as we all do when we have certain Astrological aspects such as this) However, he is imprinting himself on the world and it responds in kind. However, all this doesn’t matter because he feels left out and this can lead to depression.
Here you just nailed it! I was going to post in this thread, but then I remembered we were talking about my chart. So I hope that is okay... IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted January 28, 2014 03:14 PM
Oh thank you so much, I always had the feeling I was a "cheap" astrologer. Perhaps my researches really brought me more consistence. I guess I'll start to charge the consults I do for my friends XD.
Being an Astrologer is a personal and intellectual evolution. One needs to open up to change as I have been lately. I am not as defensive. I don't feel I have to be so perfect.
It is really a process, too. Time is needed like time is needed to bake a really good meal etc
There is no way someone can be an instant wonderful Astrologer. I think it is this way more so in AStrology than many fields but it is the case in many fields, too.
If you love it, you will get good out of pure love for it, Billy dear imo ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted January 28, 2014 03:15 PM
I am so glad what I wrote meant something to you. That is one of the greatest joys in my life, Billy. Thank you for that!  Lets take a look at your Saturn. ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted January 28, 2014 03:20 PM
Your Saturn makes one close aspect. I don't really count the wider aspects, although they are ambient, most likely.
I like to concentrate on the smaller orbs. So, we have the Saturn in the 12th sq Jupiter in the 9th.
Your Saturn is I described it for you, so we have this as prolly your hardest aspect in the chart. It is kind of a basic feeling of not fitting in. Now, Jupiter in the 9th prolly makes you a spiritual person who wants to know WHY you are on earth. You will search to find God imo. The square may make it hard. You may not feel you are good enough for God. Does this fit, Billy  ------------------
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Billy_Wroth
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posted January 28, 2014 04:02 PM
it fits, but I don't feel like enough with everything. I am afraid of not being capable in any subject, even things that everyone keep saying I should invest. I can see what I can do good, but also there is a strong force inside of me that tells: You're wrong, get down and try harder. This become a paradox where I can't break.
The only thing that motivates me is to find comfort inside a relationships. Now things seems to be making sense. I feel strong enough to face the world when I have someone to trust and fall in the arms. I guess this is my Chiron on DSC effect. OMG I can't believe I can see it now. Look how this makes sense, the best way to know myself is when I talk with someone else. Just like my chart is so outer.
I hope to find someone else, this is my impossible cure that I must fight to find. I feel completely like it now. Astrology is being a god's gift in my life.
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Ami Anne
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posted January 28, 2014 04:06 PM
Aww Billy. That is beautiful  I think your real problem when it comes down to one thing is Saturn in the 12th. ------------------
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Billy_Wroth
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posted January 28, 2014 04:49 PM
Now can I see your chart? I'm so curious to know your placements!IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted January 28, 2014 04:51 PM
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Originally posted by Billy_Wroth:
Now can I see your chart? I'm so curious to know your placements!
Sure. I am gonna link a thread for you cuz that is easier. ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted January 28, 2014 04:53 PM
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/003040.html ------------------
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Billy_Wroth
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posted January 28, 2014 05:02 PM
WOW I envy your Moon! But wait '-' she hits my IBML, your Venus opp my mars and your Uranus opp my Uranus too! ºoº I'm fascinated. You're born on 50's ♥.♥ OMG so much for me. Your ASC hits my Chiron also. I'm surprised by your chart! 'v'IP: Logged |
Billy_Wroth
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posted January 28, 2014 05:06 PM
Now that I realized! You passed through a Saturn Return recently OMG!!! How it was '-', some say it is painful D:IP: Logged |
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