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livictori
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posted February 17, 2014 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for livictori     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My North Node is in Libra in the first house and I've got my south node in Aries with Venus, along with Chiron, Lilith, Fortune in the 7th.
Every time I look up anything related to the NN/SN it always talks about Aries 1st house/Libra 7th and the descriptions don't fit me. I am a loner and always have been. I do things myself and for myself often without any support of guidance. With these placements, do this mean I won't ever be married? I had one real relationship from 14-28 and I never want to be that devoted or selfless again, Does this mean I am doomed?
My chart is full of fire despite my sun and rising sign...
*Bonus question is your asc/rising always your NN?

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Pisces Sun, Leo Moon, Libra Rising.

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Ellynlvx
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posted February 17, 2014 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(*Bonus Answer- no. Is birth time a sure thing?)

With a Moon/Venus/Neptune Grand Trine in Fire connected from Past Karma to the Cusp of the Descendant?

Don't make me laugh.

You do take the Houses to figure out where the action takes place.

It's very important to see the chart as a whole, and it's not always an easy thing to do.

Grand Trine is in here:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum33/HTML/000152.html

and here are the rest of your Patterns:

Girlivictori Knowflake

Grand Trine
Geocentric

Grand Trine
Geocentric

Grand Trine Kite
Geocentric

Grand Trine Kite
Geocentric

T-Trine
Geocentric

Grand Cross
Geocentric

Working Wedge
Geocentric

Working Wedge
Geocentric

Working Wedge
Geocentric

Working Wedges
Geocentric

T-Square
Geocentric

T-Square
Geocentric

Working Rectangle
Geocentric

Wedge
Geocentric

Wedge
Geocentric

Wedge
Geocentric

Wedge
Geocentric

T-Wedge
Geocentric

T-Wedge
Geocentric

T-Wedge
Geocentric

T-Wedge
Geocentric

T-Wedge
Geocentric

T-Wedge
Geocentric

Basket
Geocentric

Basket
Geocentric

Basket
Geocentric

Skull Cap
Geocentric

T-Wedges
Geocentric

Mystic Rectangle
Geocentric

Mystic Rectangle
Geocentric


T-Rectangle
Geocentric

Seer
Geocentric

T-Seer
Geocentric

Yod
Geocentric

Grand Trine
Heliocentric

Grand Trine
Heliocentric

Grand Trine Kite
Heliocentric

Grand Trine Kite
Heliocentric

T-Trine
Heliocentric

T-Trine
Heliocentric

T-Square
Heliocentric

T-Square
Heliocentric

Wedge
Heliocentric

Wedge
Heliocentric

Wedge
Heliocentric

T-Wedge
Heliocentric

T-Wedge
Heliocentric

T-Wedge
Heliocentric

T-Wedge
Heliocentric

T-Wedge
Heliocentric

T-Wedge
Heliocentric

T-Wedge
Heliocentric

T-Wedge
Heliocentric

Basket
Heliocentric

Basket
Heliocentric

T-Wedges
Heliocentric

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livictori
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posted February 18, 2014 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for livictori     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't fully understand your reply but here is my chart. Can you offer any insight?
http://s790.photobucket.com/user/nmonelus/library/Mobile%20Uploads
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Pisces Sun, Leo Moon, Libra Rising.

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Ellynlvx
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posted February 18, 2014 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have your chart.

That's how I answered your question.

I gave you the Patterns, because someone with a Grand Trine Fire involving the Moon, Venus and Neptune is not going to resonate as well with the Node interpretations they give on that alone.

I have given you a Thread with your Natal Reports, and I gave you a Transit when you were talking about your family reuniting a while ago, so I have your chart right at hand when you ask a question.

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livictori
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posted February 19, 2014 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for livictori     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I never saw your post for me! THANKS!!!! I've only been using this forum for a little bit so please forgive me for not knowing the total protocol. I will read it. BUT again THANK YOU for your time and energy!

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Ellynlvx
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posted February 19, 2014 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You've got some major things going on here.

I will put some of them up for you, they really go into some depth.

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Ellynlvx
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posted February 19, 2014 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Grand Trine

This person’s Chart Type is Grand Trine, it is the archetype of the care-giving Chart Type family, a classic Pattern in the history of Astrology, and one that prefers the role of “The Lover” in relationships—the provider of love and affection. The most compassionate of all Chart Types, this Pattern is considered the most Bodhisattva-like. This person has powerful conceptual abilities, and depends on their mental powers to make their way through life. They think before they act, and usually plan things out far in advance, sometimes preferring to read more about something than to actually do and experience it.
And they have clear vision, able to get the big picture, to see the forest and the trees, right off.


Grand Trine Kite

“For ideas must be made to matter.” This might be the slogan for this person, and of this Chart Type, “The Entrepreneur,” a type that is driven to react to any practical content with ways to improve the situation—always bringing new ideas into the practical sphere.

For one, this person naturally gets the big picture, just taking in any situation, and grasping the overall gist of it. But coupled with this supervisor or overseeing ability is something just a little rare and that is: a constant drive to implement whatever they see in their mind, as practical solutions in the day-to-day world. They can’t rest until the ideas that they see in the overview of their mind are implemented here on earth in a very practical way. Thus, the nickname “The Entrepreneur,” for their natural drive finds them endlessly risking it all to bring something into reality that was only a bare idea before.

T-Trine

Here is a very fortunate Chart Type, one that combines both theoretical and practical talent into a single package. This person’s mind is very organized and, in general, they have strong managerial capabilities. They don’t have to study a subject or situation very long to get the gist of it. More often than not, they take it in at a glance, and immediately get the picture, the forest and the trees. This person could be somewhat of a visionary in this regard. I am not suggesting so much Direct Voice (Words from on High) but both clear and accurate vision.

Working in harmony with their fair mind is a powerful practical sense: knowing what to do about a situation. They not only can size it up, but they can move any plan into action—get things done.

Grand Cross

First: this person is a rare bird. This chart type seldom comes up; and is the single most used (and useful) of them all; they should prepare to be accessed. Folks like this are born with information somehow imbedded in their very physical fabric, information of enormous use to others and the world they find themselves living in. They are one of these and the key word for this Chart Type is “seminal,” so take note. This person’s influence will be felt by everyone who comes to know them, and almost everything they touch will bring results, but not always for them, personally.

And this too is important: this person’s gifts don’t depend on what they do or say, not even in how they appear or what they do. Think about that for a moment. It is what we ARE that is important and the information (if we can call it that) that this person carries embedded in their very genes and very self. This person has only to make themselves available and helpful to others for them, and whatever they represent, to benefit and take advantage of what they carry locked in their makeup.

Working Wedge

This person has a very powerful Chart Type, with strong innate wisdom and intuition (a well-spring of ideas and creativity,) plus at least some awareness of their own creativity and the ability to look after their own interests. People who come in contact with them will sense their value and probably try to benefit from knowing them, so they should not let them take advantage of them.

It is not so much anything that they say or do consciously. Much of what makes them so valuable is pre-verbal, kind of inset or built into their being—beyond words. This may be hard to understand or to come to terms with, that they are useful, beyond what they “think” or may bring to a situation.

This Chart Type is something like a well-spring, from which new ideas and information flows, information of use to whomever comes in contact with it. It is hard to put a finger on this talent, and even harder to put a price on it.

T-Square

This person likes attention and probably demands (and usually gets) lots of it. Whatever is going on, they tend to gravitate to the center of any group, where the action is at—the life of the party. This is because at heart they are warm and charismatic, most definitely a touchy-feely sort of person. People like them and like to be around them. This person is probably in-demand for dinner dates and parties. Why? Because they’re fun! Sometimes this person feels like they have to protect their privacy and does not like being hemmed in and pinned down by claustrophobic situations.


Mystic Rectangle

This person’s mind and psychological process is the key to understanding their Chart Type. It is all about mental processes and mental states. They have a very strong mind and could be an expert psychologist and, at any rate, cannot avoid learning about the mind in all of its inner mechanisms and wanderings. Naturally compassionate and responsive, this person lives by his wits and intellectual abilities, and not by his group or his people skills. If anything, they run to the cool side. If there is any downside to all this psychological prowess, it would be perhaps a tendency to get a little lost in the mind and wake up locked into one mental syndrome after another, some mental habit that is roaring like a freight train, who knows where.
So Take Note.


Working Rectangle
Double T-Wedges
T-Rectangle

This person is a very gifted Star*Type, particularly when it comes to psychological or spiritual ideas, but with a practical twist. They can usually manifest their ideas on the physical plane, which many have difficulty doing. Their mind is much more complex than average, and thus suited, as mentioned to areas of the mind such as psychology, philosophy and perhaps some of the spiritual disciplines. Seeing beyond the normal, even visionary concepts, are indicated. If there is one caution, it is the tendency to slip into syndromes, and to get caught up in the minutiae of the mind and have trouble extricating themselves back to normal life.

Wedge

This person is hard working and always ready to pitch in and help out. Not particularly touchy-feely, they tend to be more reserved, depending on using their mind and mental abilities in most situations. They often do not assume folks can understand who they are until they show them what they can do or have done in the past. This person excels in situations that demand responsibility and thinking on their feet, in particular when it comes to service-oriented concerns, matters that demand real care. And they are a hard worker.

T-Wedge(s)


Here is another quite independent Chart Type, one with great mental powers, albeit folded in on themselves and all converging to a single practical point, like a laser beam. This person’s mind always has a very practical point of focus that cuts through a problem like the tip of a blowtorch. Their very strong ability to think and focus tends to be somewhat inward oriented and almost recursive, in that their mind very much guides the hand that does the work, and with great precision.

Basket

This person has the Chart Type of the care-giver, caring for and serving others, perhaps given over to worry, but in the purest form, just concern. Using the mind to evaluate and minister to everyone and everybody worthy of care. They are naturally open, a listener, and always receptive. Much more mental than physical, this person probably has a career in a service industry, something that involves thinking and using the mind.

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Ellynlvx
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posted February 19, 2014 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Skull Cap

This person’s particular type of chart has been nicknamed the “Scull Cap,” since even the shape of it looks like someone with a thinking cap on. And “thinking” is something that they can do and do a lot of. This person has great mental powers and an organized ability to concentrate, to bring all of this thought to bear in the real world, like a laser beam, focusing on particular practical results.

They put their considerable intellectual powers to work, with an ability to focus in on and hammer away at a practical point or solution. One point of caution: when all this thinking goes over the top, as it does now and then, it can easily turn to worry and anxiety.

Seer

“Big Mind” lots of vision, strong mental and observational faculties are what is happening here. An interest in the mind itself and how it works suggests that psychological areas are a natural for this person and can’t be avoided. They take to the psychological workings of the mind like a fish to water. Psychic insight is perhaps indicated as well.

In summary, they are taking it all in, recording it, “getting it’ whole, with all its parts, and their interaction. Somewhat recursive mentally, tending perhaps to syndromes.

In fact, if things are not on point, all of this mental striving can easily slip into worry and anxiety, with loops of worry or syndromes very possible. This person very much needs relationships, not just for entertainment but in a remedial way.

T-Seer

This person has a very independent Chart Type that has both strong mental and practical ability, but of the two, the mental is much more strongly accented. More than mental, this type of chart has spiritual and even visionary overtones, and almost mystic vision-like sense of life and not all pie-in-the-sky talk, but a vision that is connected to the practical in a very direct manner. They can bring what you envision down to earth and tie it into actual manifestation.

Yod

This person has a Chart Type with a real sense of striving and yearning to complete or resolve the situation—whatever is at hand. Over time, this need for resolution, this sense of immanent resolution, of always expecting something, of waiting could manifest almost as a waiting for the other shoe to drop; even a sense of premonition at best; apprehension or even foreboding about what is to come—the future in general—at worst. The concept to grasp is this openness or expectancy for something to happen that will resolve or relieve this expectancy. Also: perhaps great curiosity, interest in exploring and getting into details.


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livictori
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posted February 19, 2014 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for livictori     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am blown away by these insights! I'm still reading through the reports you did for me and I am dumbfounded. Maybe this is my Karmic return? I am in my last 2 weeks of corporate employment so that I can mentor. I created all of these modules and videos to explain how people can become more resilient and I explore the emotional affects of stress, anger, and disappointment. Professionally this is the most daring thing I have ever done. But I would be lying if I don't admit how lonely I am and worried that I might lose myself in work, fame or fortune without having me most sincere needs met. If this is my karmic return then I have to relegate myself to it and be fulfilled with that. I was hoping for marriage and real partnership. I am so passionate about my work, maybe that success will be enough. Hey look at Oprah

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Ellynlvx
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posted February 19, 2014 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I can't tell you how to run your life, but I could have given you the whole collection, and only one or two would NOT have applied to you...

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