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LostSoulRebecca
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posted August 01, 2014 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LostSoulRebecca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, guys!

I am really keen on astrology lately, so I have bunch of questions. This one is pretty weird, I guess…

Recently I have read that an accident can be seen from ones chart (natal with transits)

Back in December 2013 I had a car accident. Thank God nothing happened to me, just the car was damaged. Now, I am really curious if this accident can be seen from my natal chart with transits for that particular day?

Can someone see aspects in this chart that could indicate car accident (or accident in general)?

Please, share your thoughts.

Thank you so much!

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Ami Anne
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posted August 01, 2014 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not too good on this but ruler of your ASC is Mars( the old ruler) and Uranus opposes it. What do other people think?

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posted August 01, 2014 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"You will be prone to car accidents if you were born with Saturn in your 3rd house"

Notice how the ruler of the 3rd house is saturn and transit saturn is conjuncting natal pluto and natally this person has pluto square mercury in aquarius!

Mercury rules short distance travel and aquarius rules modern technology such as cars and aquarius is also known for been erratic.

I would say this are contributers:

Saturn ruling her 3rd house

Mercury in aquarius

Transit Saturn conjuncting natal pluto and squaring her natal mercury in Aquarius in the 3rd house.

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posted August 01, 2014 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just out of curiosity can you if you don't mind repost chart with transits and include pandora, pholus and chaos in it.

Curious to see if those asteroids also played a role.

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posted August 01, 2014 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am not too good on this but ruler of your ASC is Mars( the old ruler) and Uranus opposes it. What do other people think?

Interesting angle too..

Her AC ruler is also Pluto and Pluto squares her mercury in aquarius and mercury rules short distance travel and aquarius is erratic and rules modern technology such as cars.

Also ruler of the 3rd is saturn and transit saturn is hitting her pluto square mercury.

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Thanks for posting this chart, Lostsoulrebecca.

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posted August 01, 2014 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LostSoulRebecca:

Back in December 2013 I had a car accident. Thank God nothing happened to me, just the car was damaged.


Glad you are ok!!! Do be extra carefull from now on in the road.

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posted August 01, 2014 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LostSoulRebecca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by amelia28:
Just out of curiosity can you if you don't mind repost chart with transits and include pandora, pholus and chaos in it.

Curious to see if those asteroids also played a role.


Sure! Here it is.

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posted August 01, 2014 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think this is the trigger in your case of this accident as this is the most exact transit to natal aspect on this day:

On this day transit Uranus was sextile exact natal Pholus and T-uranus was also opposing pandora by 3 orbs.

Also, Transit pluto is trining natal chaos.

Natally chaos squares your mercury in aqua in the 3rd. Also pholus trines your mercury in the 3rd and inconjuncts saturn ruler of your 3rd.

Pandora transiting through your 3rd.

I think bc the exact aspect on this day involved a sextile the accident did not lead to you getting hurt.

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posted August 01, 2014 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great work, Amelia. You rock

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posted August 01, 2014 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LostSoulRebecca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
I think this is the trigger in your case of this accident as this is the most exact transit to natal aspect on this day.

Oh, my God! That is just amazing! Thank you soo much for that amelia28!


Just one question: You said in one of earliest posts ''You will be prone to car accidents if you were born with Saturn in your 3rd house" but my Saturn is in my 2nd house or is it? I was quite sure, my Mars (temper) was the one, getting me into such troubles...

p.s. I had one car accident before, in april 2008. It was much much more horrible, the car was totaly damaged, landed on its roof, on the brink of a precipice... I however wasn't injured even a little bit and I truly think at that day I was saved by an angel. I saw light, I remeber talking to myself 'Go, where the light is. There is safe...' and I felt as I am flying out of the car until I safely landed in front of my car on 'save side', away from precipice.

The natal chart with transits for that day (3.4.2008) is here, if you are interested in seeing it.

Funny (or not so funny after all...) thing is - in both cases my father was involved! He got me angry (he called me on a phone, demanding something...) while I was driving... :/

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posted August 01, 2014 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

You have saturn in your second house but saturn rules your 3rd house so it can be interpreted as saturn in the 3rd. Saturn can represent the father figure and the 3rd house is the house of short distance travel and communications so its interesting that both times you were driving you were fighting with your dad on the phone.

I forgot to mention that in the first example TRANSIT URANUS SQUARED by one orb your natal SATURN and this also sextiled EXACT your natal pholus and opposed natal pandora by 3 orbs.

In this second example Transit Chaos is conjuncting EXACT your Natal pholus and inconjuncting your natal saturn which rules your 3rd house.

Based on both examples provided I would say you need to watch out for transits that activate your pholus or your saturn since your pholus inconjuncts saturn natally a transit that activates one will activate the other...


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posted August 01, 2014 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Include asteroid angel in the second example...

I do think perhaps transit jupiter conjucting your natal sun (approaching under three orbs) and trining your natal jupiter is what protected you that day.

Your moon and mars in aries I do feel adds to been more prone to accidents..I do think is another contributor bc It will lead to impulsiveness.

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posted August 01, 2014 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Great work, Amelia. You rock


Thanks a lot!
I am learning with this. Love it when people post stuff like this.

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Ellynlvx
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posted August 01, 2014 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun hit your Uranus/Anti-Vertex.

That was a rough time.

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posted August 02, 2014 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LostSoulRebecca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by amelia28:
Include asteroid angel in the second example...

I do think perhaps transit jupiter conjucting your natal sun (approaching under three orbs) and trining your natal jupiter is what protected you that day.


Angel included.


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Question about houses. You mentioned that Saturn is ruler of my 3rd house so it can be interpreted as saturn in the 3rd. Now I am not quite familiar with this but does this mean that I can do such interpretatios also for my other planets/houses? Are those houses (plante and the house, which he rules) somehow connected?

For example: I have venus in my 2nd, but Venus rules my seventh house (in Taurus). Can I therefore interpretated it as Venus in 7th? Or are there any special rules/limitations when it comes to doing that?

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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
Sun hit your Uranus/Anti-Vertex. That was a rough time.

Yes it was... Actually this whole year from May 2007 till September 2008.

I almost failed national exams in July 2007 and wasn't able to go to college. BUT it turned out, the system made huge (and I mean huge!!) mistake and It turned out that I actually passed exams with great success.

Than in September 2007 I had just minor car accident (father involved... again! Ok - that is getting ridiculous and scary at the same time, how father is always somehow involved in my accidents!).

And than came April 2008 accident, which was really the worst! It really must be, as amelia28 mentioned, transit Jupiter conj. Natal sun and trine natal Jupiter, that saved me that day...

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posted August 02, 2014 05:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LostSoulRebecca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 03, 2014 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LostSoulRebecca:

And than came April 2008 accident, which was really the worst! It really must be, as [b]amelia28 mentioned, transit Jupiter conj. Natal sun and trine natal Jupiter, that saved me that day...[/B]


Well now that you added angel to the mix it gets even more interesting..

Transit jupiter was conjuncting your natal sun in the 3rd and trining your natal jupiter conjunct Angel.

I would think that angel conjuncting jupiter amps up the protective powers of angel.

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posted August 03, 2014 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LostSoulRebecca:
Question about houses. You mentioned that Saturn is ruler of my 3rd house so it can be interpreted as saturn in the 3rd. Now I am not quite familiar with this but does this mean that I can do such interpretations also for my other planets/houses? Are those houses (plante and the house, which he rules) somehow connected?

For example: I have venus in my 2nd, but Venus rules my seventh house (in Taurus). Can I therefore interpretated it as Venus in 7th? Or are there any special rules/limitations when it comes to doing that?


You look at both placements. For example my moon falls in the 4th but it rules my 8th house so I check out the meaning of moon in the 4th and moon in the 8th house. Some people find that going by rulership is more personal.

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posted August 03, 2014 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LostSoulRebecca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amelia28, thank you sooo much for your insights and time, that you took for it!

Really appreciate it. I learned a lot!

You know a lot about asteroids. May I ask, where can I find more informations about angel (meaning of it's position in natal chart, aspects to other natal planets...) and about DNA (it conjuncts my north node).

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posted August 04, 2014 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am glad I have been helpful .

In the lindaland reference library you can find some information on the asteroids DNA and angel.

We are all learning about asteroids here, with time the library will grow.

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posted August 04, 2014 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LostSoulRebecca:
Amelia28, thank you sooo much for your insights and time, that you took for it!

Really appreciate it. I learned a lot!

You know a lot about asteroids. May I ask, where can I find more informations about angel (meaning of it's position in natal chart, aspects to other natal planets...) and about DNA (it conjuncts my north node).


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posted August 04, 2014 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LostSoulRebecca,

I found more info for you. You have saturn which rules your third house in cap at 7 degrees which conjuncts fixed star Facies in cap at 8 degrees.Do take interpretations of fixed star with a grain of salt. I say this bc almost every time I read an interpretation about a fixed star it mentions violent death.


Fixed Star Facies 8 Capricorn:

Astrologers have generally considered Facies to have an unfortunate influence, associated with eye problems, accidents and violence. There is some evidence to support these interpretations but it is not the whole story at all. Being in the constellation Sagittarius, Facies has a Jupiter nature giving interest in religion, politics, philosophy, travel, and expressing the self through publishing or producing something, literature or film. Facies also shows the nature of Pluto which gives a psychological, probing, intense, profound nature, with some association to the dark side of life.

“The nebula in the Archer’s Face is of the nature of the Sun and Mars, and causes blindness, defective sight (all nebula can cause blindness), sickness, accidents and a violent death.” [1]

“Much blamed for accidents and broken limbs and so on. The Latin name is from the verb Facere, to make or do something, and it is often said to portend accidents due to the victim’s own careless actions. Naturally, there is a positive side to Facies, it symbolizes well that kind of Sagittarian who goes out to climb mountains, race cars, enter the ski-jump team or the Grand National steeplechase, making it right to the top and no doubt breaking a few bones along the way. On the more philosophical side it will mark those who must see their outlook and beliefs carried into practical effect somewhere, so that they go out on missions, set up their own churches and centers engage in good works of famine or refugee relief and so on. Inevitably they get hurt at times, but perhaps find compensation in the value of their works.” [2]

“represents the penetrating stare of a lethal weapon. It is one of the most difficult, and possibly the most violent, objects in the heavens. It gives a penetration of action that has no regard for others…Facies in a chart will indicate that the planet it touches will be very focused and driven…the push to achieve goals and aims may well become ruthless.” [3]

Facies rules the inside of the left knee. [4]
http://astrologyking.com/facies-star/

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posted August 05, 2014 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LostSoulRebecca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you amelia28 for your effort.

So far I hardly know basic astrology and I wouldn't even think about searching for fixed stars. Thank you for drawling my attention also to this part of astrology.

p.s. As for 'violent death'... I take almost everything in my life with a grain of salt. After all - only birth and death are the only two things one can be 100% sure to experience in life. Everything else is 'optional'.

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