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Astro keen
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posted October 13, 2014 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thus may be a very basic question, but it confuses me!

I have read that the current location should be used for a solar return and I tried generating the solar return chart on astro.com as well as grupovenus.com.

These sites give me different results. In astro.com I used my current location as the reference place. While in groupovenus I changed my birth place. What does a reference place in astro.com mean? It is certainly not the same as changing the birth place.

Could someone say what is that they do for their SOLAR return?

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Odette
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posted October 16, 2014 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The astro.com solar return would be the accurate one. Astro.com is a well known and professional website. Many astrologers throughout the world use it, so they can't afford to have such errors. Grupovenus has not always been accurate for me. They don't have all of the major cities on their drop down menu and don't seem to take daylight savings into account. I do like the interpretations on Grupovenus, so I use it just to browse the meaning of different aspects. But when it comes to drawing up charts - definitely stick with astro.com

The following is from astro.com - when you go to change your -reference place- under "Preferences":

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Minimal importance of reference place:

Contrary to a wide spread misconception, the place where you live has very little relevance for a horoscope. For the horoscope readings offered on this website it has no influence at all. The birth place and birth time determine your Ascendant and the houses in your horoscope. They become part of your astrological 'makeup' at the moment of your birth, and like your genetic information, they do not change later just because you live somewhere else.

Transits depend only on where you are born (because this influences your Ascendant and houses). They do NOT depend on where you live.

The only exceptions are of minimal impact. The time when a transit occurs is fixed in Universal Time (aka Greenwich Time). It is the time when a moving planet crosses a particular degree of the zodiac, where your birth planet (or house cusps) is considered to have left a mark. This time is the same, from wherever on the earth you may be watching! Only the local clock time for this moment however will be different, depending on the timezone, in which you live. The 'reference place' at the bottom of the daily horoscope page is used to determine, in which time zone these transit times should be printed. If you know about time zones, you can however do the conversion from one to the other just as well in your head, as you often do when you watch a nation-wide or world-wide TV network.

Some special chart techniques like Solar or Lunar return charts (for which this site does the charts but no interpretation) might also use as a reference place the city where you live. Only if you do such charts you should set the correct reference place for each one. Because they are done only by very few people, we consider one global setting for the reference place as sufficient.

You can rely on the chart output. If a chart output page does not display a reference place, none has been used for computing it.

Please do not send e-mail to the webmaster regarding the reference location. Everything which needs to be said about it is said here.


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Odette
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posted October 16, 2014 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More information on Solar Return charts:
http://www.ohotto.com/store/reports/solar_return.asp

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There are three different options when erecting a Solar Return chart that will each affect the report you order. They are:

Casting the Solar Return chart using your current place of primary residence. This is the option that I personally recommend most as it allows the report to focus the information on how to live out your purpose per your everyday life in your living environment which includes: your work, relationships, home, family, etc.

Casting the Solar Return chart using your original birthplace. If you happen to live there then this is a Solar Return in the truest sense! But most of us do not live where we were born. Nonetheless, this would be my second choice in erecting a Solar Return chart.

Casting the Solar Return based on the location of where you experienced your birthday. Many people will engage in intense research to determine which locations on their birthday will give them the best chart. At best this might offer the most beneficial structure in which the return unfolds, but it’s my sense that such measures can become elaborate efforts of running from one’s Fate, instead of working intelligently with it.


So, like just about everything else in astrology - there are diverging opinions on what works best, but I think the majority would agree that you should cast the SR using your current location

Hope this helps!

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Astro keen
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posted December 19, 2014 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Odette,

Just saw this! Thank you very much for your help. I should get the right chart now.

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