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Topic: Pluto on the ascendant
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colorful butterfly
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From: Durham north carolina usa
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posted February 09, 2016 08:25 PM
  
I've had two people lately with this aspect. Both of them I could sense where controlling to a degree or would be that way. I don't mind it to a degree as long as I know the love is there, purity of the heart, stability, commitment vs I own you, treat you like crap and no one else can have you. Yet I can do whatever I want.
Does anyone have experience as the pluto person? Please share your experience.
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Randall
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posted February 11, 2016 03:11 PM
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Gabriel Lee
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From: Land of Oz
Registered: Apr 2016
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posted May 19, 2016 11:12 PM
Have Pluto conjunct Scorpio Ascendant 0 degrees.
Control is a big issue for me. But it's controlling myself, so don't show weakness. Which the definition has changed over the years and comes out in different ways. Have learnt to love unconditionally, with a person's flaws and sometimes stupid choices. You can love someone but not like them every minute of the day, just because don't like them at that particular moment doesn't mean need to abandon them or do the “I Told You So”. If I gave up every time there was a challenge then life would be full of fake encounters (myself would be rather fake too). Before learnt this, use to want people to change to fit who I thought they should be, they should grow up, which was a reflection that I needed to grow up. Didn’t actually try to change the person but wasn’t the most helpful person if they were far from who they I thought they should be. More passive-aggressive. As for controlling others, don't really like it. It's a lot of responsibility and then there is a lot to think about (Are they eating enough? Do they like what they are doing in life? Would they like to improve themselves? Can I take the flack if this fails?) and end up forgetting about myself as pre-occupied with this other person. Usually try to teach them to take responsibility for themselves and their choices. Otherwise avoid these type of people nowadays. In a girlfriend/boyfriend relationship, never bothered to actually have one of these. Not to say haven’t had someone use the term on me before. But am upfront at the beginning what the relationship is to me. As I know will be that 'You’re all mine and nobody had ever get any part of you or else' way. Fine with kids. Family and friends are okay to a certain extent. Somebody new in their life though yeah, feel sorry for that person and they technically don't exist yet. Know I'm territorial but don't know if that's Pluto or Mars in Aries. With the 'You’re all mine and nobody had ever get any part of you or else' it's not just physically, it's emotional, mentally and spiritually. You can have your secrets but you had better tell me one day. And I give it as well. Love my freedom, so don't like being told why can't I come with you, especially if want to be on my own. But give it equally back, so they get their freedom too. The other way is if they openly flirt with girls to get a rise out of me, then I’ll be quite but do it back to them and when they get ****** and ask why? “You think you can do it and it doesn’t matter?” is the response. Again not sure if this is just Pluto or Mars coming into play as well. I play for keeps when generally interested in someone for a genuine relationship, usually freak them out and they leave. Which is fine, if they can’t handle my honesty and enquiring intensity before even fully open up, it’s best they go before either one of us wastes anymore time. For flings as I call them, because they’re nothing more than that to me. Don’t hurt the person or anything try to have a fun time and when they realise what they want and we have a discussion about how I don’t fit that category for deeper reasons than surface differences. They know who they are looking for next. I hate being controlled along with in-equality (they are almost the same thing in my book), to a degree in high school we had a substitute in science class. He was a good teacher, great at explaining the work and just generally a fun teacher. But when we were working in our text books he would walk around us as a class, look over our shoulders and sometimes put his foot on the table as we had discussions about the work. Well I told him twice already that it was rude and bad manners also that I didn’t like it. He paid no attention. So one rainy day when my wild child was rather near the surface, he did it again. Gave him a third warning. He ignored it. So I flipped the table that he foot was on over along with him. The class assumed that he had lost balance and flipped the table over. No one believed him when he said I did it. I apologized to my friend as the table grazed her ankle. Oh I was so proud and happy that I had done it, had gotten away with it and just generally devious for about an hour. Then I worried was going to turn into a bully, so have kept a tight rein on myself. My Saturn influence mixed with Pluto. Also should apologized to that guy as terrified the crap out of him. He left the teaching job the next day and saw him once in the shopping centre, went to apologize and he disappeared again. That has the only time have really physical tried to control someone on a big scale. Things like which way walking home, well I’ll go my way even if it’s on my own, don’t care if you come along or not. Are small things. This is usually said in my head. Do a lot of talking in my head. So this is the control aspect but Pluto isn’t my dominant planet according to pullen it’s Saturn, Mercury then Pluto. Also Capricorn, Aries, Aquarius then Scorpio in terms of dominance. So have it but don’t think it’s my main go to, you get three chances then it comes into play.
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Randall
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posted May 20, 2016 12:23 PM
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Gabriel Lee
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From: Land of Oz
Registered: Apr 2016
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posted May 20, 2016 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
I have it.
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Randall
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posted May 21, 2016 03:00 PM
I meant to say I have it in my first House. IP: Logged |
Electro DGX
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From: Another Galaxy
Registered: Jul 2015
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posted May 21, 2016 11:34 PM
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Originally posted by Gabriel Lee:
Care to elaborate then???
Randall isn't the type of guy to post long readings about the placements in his natal chart. Sometimes he'll chime in here and there, but often he's not going to spew out information. He kind of just prowls around the forums and drops little notes here and there. Something I thought you ought to know when it comes to Randall  ------------------
Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, Neptune
Scorpio Mars conj. Asc in First
8th House Moon opposite Pluto, Trine Uranus
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Gabriel Lee
Knowflake Posts: 85
From: Land of Oz
Registered: Apr 2016
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posted May 22, 2016 12:53 AM
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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
Randall isn't the type of guy to post long readings about the placements in his natal chart. Sometimes he'll chime in here and there, but often he's not going to spew out information. He kind of just prowls around the forums and drops little notes here and there. Something I thought you ought to know when it comes to Randall
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colorful butterfly
Knowflake Posts: 357
From: Durham north carolina usa
Registered: May 2015
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posted May 22, 2016 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by Gabriel Lee:
Thanks
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Randall
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From: Saturn next to Charmaine
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posted May 26, 2016 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
Randall isn't the type of guy to post long readings about the placements in his natal chart. Sometimes he'll chime in here and there, but often he's not going to spew out information. He kind of just prowls around the forums and drops little notes here and there. Something I thought you ought to know when it comes to Randall
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colorful butterfly
Knowflake Posts: 357
From: Durham north carolina usa
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posted May 29, 2016 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
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Randall
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posted June 19, 2016 10:33 AM
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Jleo3
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Registered: Oct 2013
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posted June 20, 2016 06:34 AM
Ouch! I have this aspect - Asc. And Pluto conj @ 23 Virgo in 12th. Yes I have these qualities and they have contributed to several failed relationships. I didn't realize how I was being, but as I've gotten older I've come to understand how I've been behaving and work diligently to change. ------------------
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VacantGazer
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From: Pluto
Registered: Dec 2014
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posted June 20, 2016 02:53 PM
I have pluto on the asc, I dont like controlling behaviour so i dont partake in it myself. I'm happy so long as I know where I stand with the other person, I dont really like things being hidden from me. Pls dont quote might edit later IP: Logged |
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