posted July 13, 2016 11:30 AM            

Any insights would be appreciated!

posted July 14, 2016 07:27 PM            

extroverted--upper half planets

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posted July 14, 2016 11:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Welcome!

extroverted--upper half planets

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Hey Ami!! Thanks so much for sharing. Is that concept really true? Some people say that regardless of which side your planets fall mostly on in the chart, you can find yourself being either or.

posted July 15, 2016 08:42 AM            

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posted July 16, 2016 12:56 AM            

The reason why I think this theory has some sort of validity is that as an Aquarius with a stellium of five, I am quite the introvert. If we do no resonate on the same vibration and/or cannot talk about the same things, then I often keep quite and would rather get out of the place. Signs do play a role, but I think this theory has some sort of potential. Just some food for thought

posted July 21, 2016 01:38 AM            

I think that even if they had planets like Pluto or Neptune conjunct the MC, they would still be an extrovert because the energies of the planets are being stressed on the focus of the public eye. The placement of the Ascendant maps out the areas in one's life in which the energies of the planetary placements they are born with are focused depending on the house, which is mostly based on the idea that the first half of the zodiac is focused on one's individuality and the second half is focused on everyone else. It is in which the first half is "selfish" and the second half is "selfless", not in a literal sense but in an abstract sense. That's one reason why this theory was brought to fruition. The 2nd house, for example, has been described as dealing with one's own money, whereas the 8th house is known for dealing with other people's money. As an Aquarius with a stellium of five, I AM a big time introvert because I have my stellium conjunct the IC and have planets in water and earth houses more so than fire and air, plus they are also below the horizon, which is the idea of the theory itself. I only have two planets in water and I have an earth void, but based on my house placements I have a lot of placements in water and earth houses, under the horizon, and not many placements in fire and air houses. That is why the birth time is so essential; if I had a different ascendant, I would be a drastically different person. That's often why I cannot seem to relate to those who were born on the exact same day as me (including year), even though most of our placements should be the exact same. I heard other people say the same themselves, which also acts as to why I feel so strongly in this idea.

For instance, I have many factors in my chart that could be used to interpret me as being quite the extrovert, such as five planets in Aquarius along with a Gemini Moon, Mars conjunct Ascendant, Leo Midheaven, Mercury in the third with Jupiter in the fifth and such, yet I'm not because the amount of influences placed by both the signs and houses. Having a Scorpio Ascendant with all my air suffocating under water houses and having planets like Saturn and Neptune altering how I go about in the world (such as Saturn opposite Ascendant (conjunct DSC) and Neptune Square Ascendant (conjunct IC)) makes me more introverted. Often having planets on the MC puts a focus on the outer world and an emphasis on such makes for someone who goes out into the world more so than someone who stays at home, such as I with a stellium conjunct the IC. My sister, who happens to be quite the extrovert, has a Taurus Sun in the eigth, Virgo Ascendant, and Cancer Moon conjunct Saturn in the tenth house. She is weak in fire placements and has only Venus conjunct Mars in Gemini along with Neptune in Aqua, yet she is quite the introvert with her Venus and Mars conjunct the Midheaven along with Moon and Saturn in the tenth, as Capricorn aspires to go higher in terms of "social status" which is an extrovert quality.

As an Aquarius I often find it difficult to keep track of what's going on with trends and the crowd because I am often disgusted with the crowd and tend to rather go on my own. I would rather retain my individuality and stand on my own for my own uniqueness rather than go out into the world and attempt to be like them just to be a part of the "group", because it doesn't really matter to me. Everything I do is based on personal convictions and not because of the amount of faith I hold in worldly ideas. I don't care about what is "hot" at the current moment in time because I have my own priorities which I deem more important than what is popular. Yes, I may engage sometimes in activities and events that may be popular, but that is solely on a personal decision and passion for it and not because of its status in the world and/or what others think of it. If there was a differing opinion at hand that I had, I would state it regardless of what may happen as I choose to stand my ground and make my point known, for Aquarius likes to create controversy and be "unusual". I would be prone to pointing out other's biases in their opinion, but an opinion is an opinion; there's not much one can do with it to make it as "factual" as one would like it to be.
If I am alone, unless I know someone, I don't like to be bothered and often HATE it when people stare at me for reasons unknown. I have a small group of friends that I can trust and have a lot of faith in, but that is it. I need to be alone in order to recharge and if I am in a stressful mood and/or situation, I need to get away from people and recharge my batteries away from the crowd. That's more of an introverted quality, wouldn't you think? Aquarius has this strange disconnect between themselves in which they seem to be "very talkative and interactive with the world at large" but "needs time alone in order to regenerate themselves", a trait that they have in common with Scorpio. My fourth house stellium and eighth house moon also contributes to this. In my small group of friends, I can be extremely talkative, but often I need time away from people in order to keep myself in check. Aquarius also is a sign that likes to be a part of the group, but if I feel as if I do not fit in the group and/or do not feel included, I would rather go about alone rather than try to fit in with the group. Often people with strong Aquarian placements are motivated by being eccentric and unique, which is why they may be loners in the first place. My midheaven falls in Leo as well, and when it comes to the outer world I do want to relish in attention and like to be recognized for the skills I have, but for THAT ONLY. I do not like attention regarding to how I'm feeling and or the things I've been going through, because I don't like sharing that kind of information with people unless I can trust them.

I do think that you make some valid points as well when it comes to disproving this theory, but I still feel like that the placements of planets in certain houses and conjunct certain angles can greatly alter the type of personality that is projected. I do agree with what you've said regarding how signs and aspects are more important than the "theory" that I'm trying to put out, and maybe the theory itself is complete garbage and has no sort of sense to it, but I'm only stating why I think it has validity. Often the signs describe how the individual is and the houses determine the focus of these energies, which is what I base this theory off of. Yes, the traits of the signs themselves can alter the personality itself as in being more Cancer like and more Scorpio like persay, but the chart itself is like a map; in fact, it is a map. This theory also isn't an absolute, and it obviously isn't going to have 100% validity in all situations due to how arbitrary astrology really is: it is just what I like to call a "generalized approach" to determining a solution to the question at hand. I certainly don't recall pointing out that it was an absolute either.

Sorry if the things I might be saying may be confusing in some sort of way; currently dealing with a hard Neptune transit at the moment and it is making my thinking a bit unclear, so often on the forums I've been just spewing out random thoughts and ideas without any sort of real pin-point accuracy thanks to Neptune. Now that I think of it, some of the things I said in that lost post made no sense (thanks Neptune lol). This is just how I see it

posted August 03, 2016 08:34 PM            

Your Merc conj my ASC(2 degrees)

That is why we have a warmth and understanding

You are a true water void but a water MC

People may see you as very emotional, more than you are.

Do you think so?

Your Moon/Chiron makes for a big dose of water, in a way---lots of empathy, born of pain

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posted August 05, 2016 08:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Interesting concept.

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Yes, I have seen this in doing charts.

Trump is an earth void with an earth MC, so he appears earth like, but is not.

With the ASC, people can struggle with an identity kind of crisis because people expect them to be a way they really are not.

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posted September 09, 2016 02:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Libracorn:
Hey Ami!! Thanks so much for sharing. Is that concept really true? Some people say that regardless of which side your planets fall mostly on in the chart, you can find yourself being either or.

LOL - Honestly, I've never really met anybody who wasn't extroverted and had their planets at the top half of the chart.

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I think your moon sign and 2nd house cusp (said to rule self-esteem along with finances of course) really influences you. Your moon is your emotions and if you have a moon in detriment and some affliction to your 2nd house of self-esteem you would probably be more self-conscious and insecure even if you have say a bunch of Aries planets.

posted September 10, 2016 03:45 PM            

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Originally posted by SunAscendant:
I think your moon sign and 2nd house cusp (said to rule self-esteem along with finances of course) really influences you. Your moon is your emotions and if you have a moon in detriment and some affliction to your 2nd house of self-esteem you would probably be more self-conscious and insecure even if you have say a bunch of Aries planets.

I have a 10th house Venus and Mercury and my sun is on the Aries/Taurus cusp conjunct the 11th cusp, but I also have Chiron exactly conjunct my 2nd house cusp and my moon is in detriment in Capricorn. Despite my Aries/top half of the chart emphasis I am extremely shy and insecure per Chiron and my detrimental moon.

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posted September 17, 2016 02:06 PM            

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Originally posted by MermaidDreamz:
House 7 is Leo, which is extrovert in general+ Mars there. I'd bet you're gregarious.

What Randall said too, a first house Uranus is friendly natured. At least to the point until you feel you've had enough and withdraw to solidarity until-Mars may have you restless ? Libra balances you out a bit, maybe you find yourself busy in social interactions, due to your 7th H Mars?

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