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Bluebelle
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posted January 14, 2017 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluebelle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I use whole signs, my sun moves from the 8th to the 7th, which means I will have a 7th house Stellium. The description fits me better I'd say, although the 8th fit me too. The 7th house Stellium contains the planets Mercury and Jupiter conjunct the nn, and in whole signs the Sun is now included. I'm worried about the need to break-away from relationship tendencies and giving away your 'power'. Here is what I read about 7th house stelliums:

7th HOUSE: Individuals with a 7th House stellium as the least likely to marry or stay married. So many energies come out in a relationship that they feel swallowed up by other people in close relationships. They are often loners or they suddenly end relationships to break the relationship obsession. Libran traits manifest in relationships, specifically indecision when dealing with others. It is excellent for work in counseling or consultant occupations. These de-personalize the one-on-one relationships. The many planets in the 7th can describe many types of clients with whom the individual would deal. This is excellent for a lawyer, arbitrator, psychologist and business consultant.

I have observed this stellium firsthand. The individual complains that the relationships takes up so much of their energy that they lose their own identity. It is easier to be a loner. However, upon closer inspection, I observed that, when involved in a relationship, the individual obsesses upon that relationship to the point wherein he or she loses perspective, becoming oblivious to anyone or anything else. A friend with such a stellium visited the United States. He stayed in Baltimore for 2 weeks and then he stayed with me. When he was with me, he forgot all about his friends in Baltimore. And, when he left to stay with one of my students, he became oblivious to me and certain obligations that he had to me. He focused in on the person he was with and lost sight of everything else. If I had not seen this myself, I never would have understood this phenomena. A very independent friend with such a stellium would always lose herself in a relationship, devoting all of her energies to what the partner needed without regard for her own needs To end this obsession, she would just run away from the relationship.

My chart in whole signs:

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hypatia238
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posted January 15, 2017 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is your question love? Do you relate strongly yourself to the examples you provided?

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posted January 15, 2017 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluebelle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I feel I let people take my power. Before I thought *** was because of Venus as my chart ruler being in Pisces 6th house squaring moon, Saturn and Uranus, along with Neptune square he ascendant on a 2.5 orb.
But athe 7th house stellium description explains why relationships will be troublesome for me perfectly.

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posted January 15, 2017 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 8th house is a house that deals a lot with power in relationships, pluto is all about how we handle power in our relationships.

On the other hand 7th house placements can make someone passive, concerned about keeping others happy at their own expense till they learn to assert themselves more and find that balance were the needs of others as well as their own are both honored. You can say that issues with 7th house matters lead to an imbalance in power in relationships which is an 8th house matter. Hopefully that helps.

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posted January 16, 2017 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well-said.

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Bluebelle
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posted January 16, 2017 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluebelle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've had the problem of not being assertive enough in relationships and have indeed experienced giving away my power to people, but I feel those could also be explained by venus Pisces 6th and Neptune square ascendant retrograde in the 4th house of home. Home is where I've felt this problem most strongly.

I do find myself being friend's with Scorpio moons a lot but that could be my Arian Martian energy, rather than an 8th house Sun attracting them.

I've never been interested in power in relationships, except in a jovial competitive way. So maybe that sways more to Whole Signs.

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posted January 22, 2017 03:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bluebelle:
Yeah I feel I let people take my power. Before I thought *** was because of Venus as my chart ruler being in Pisces 6th house squaring moon, Saturn and Uranus, along with Neptune square he ascendant on a 2.5 orb.

But the 7th house stellium description explains why relationships will be troublesome for me perfectly.

Since Venus rules your Asc, the ruler of the 1st in the 6th suggests that health(6th) is the area of much personal identification.

When things are under your control,sorted and shelved into their respective boxes you feel organized,like you have accomplished something good.

When there is chaos or a sense of not knowing what goes where, you feel very much disoriented, confused and stressed.

Asc in Libra wants to keep things constant and steady from the inside out- a tendency towards neutrality or resistance to extremes of emotions is likely

With Venus in 6th, problems/issues come from Venus associated things. If out of balance, it can lead to sickness and health issues.So you can be a very high strung person and appear so to others(even though you are essentially striving to feel "balanced" and calm)

Venus are things like pleasure,femininity ,women(also the Moon),sexuality,self esteem, relationships(social,familial and intimate), money, possession, personal security, creativity etc.

Venus in 6th may suggest problems with the above things(the list is not exhaustive) and a tendency to always feel like you are working out issues and problems related to them.

Venus ruling your 8th may suggest intimacy issues. Whilst when ruling your 1st, it may suggest feeling strained, tense or in a constant flux-which expresses itself out to others as nervousness and an eagerness to please.

Sun in 7th(amongst others) suggests that you are drawn/attracted and even admire those who are themselves without apology(Sun).

The stable, fixed nature that they exude is appealing to you and you do wish for that same "fixed" nature within yourself- hence your attraction to them.

Jupiter-Mercury conjunct in 7th speaks of how you admire people's flexibility and/or their ingenious nature.

You may also admire their ability to express themselves with vigor and enthusiasm- a quality that you wish you had etc.

A good mantra with Venus in 6th that I say(also have Mars(ruler of the 1st) in 6th ) is;

"all things will work out"

"I don't have to have the solution in this red hot minute"

"The solution will come"

"all challenges are an opportunity to know myself better"

I don't disagree with what is being said with regards to the 7th at all. Only adding to it.

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posted January 23, 2017 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluebelle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Since Venus rules your Asc, the ruler of the 1st in the 6th suggests that health(6th) is the area of much personal identification.

When things are under your control,sorted and shelved into their respective boxes you feel organized,like you have accomplished something good.

When there is chaos or a sense of not knowing what goes where, you feel very much disoriented, confused and stressed.

Asc in Libra wants to keep things constant and steady from the inside out- a tendency towards neutrality or resistance to extremes of emotions is likely

With Venus in 6th, problems/issues come from Venus associated things. If out of balance, it can lead to sickness and health issues.So you can be a very high strung person and appear so to others(even though you are essentially striving to feel "balanced" and calm)


Yes my health has been affected in terms of IBS, which is debilitating sometimes. It's emotionally related to the cards life dealt me, and that's my body's way of showing it.

The Neptune retrograde and square ascendant goes against the 6th house need to organize things. And the squares have contributed to the difficulties, as I haven't had the inner confidence or peace to go turns things around to the extent I would have liked. Don't get me wrong, the abundance of fire keeps me positive and I do feel the positive influence from the sun trine moon.

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Venus are things like pleasure,femininity ,women(also the Moon),sexuality,self esteem, relationships(social,familial and intimate), money, possession, personal security, creativity etc.

Venus in 6th may suggest problems with the above things(the list is not exhaustive) and a tendency to always feel like you are working out issues and problems related to them. [/B]


Yes, I've had a lot to figure out in my head!

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Venus ruling your 8th may suggest intimacy issues. Whilst when ruling your 1st, it may suggest feeling strained, tense or in a constant flux-which expresses itself out to others as nervousness and an eagerness to please.[/B]

It's funny I haven't looked at my nervousness as an eagerness to please, but it defo does. It contradicts my independent nature so it's really frustrating at times when some people think I'm a pushover and others think the opposite. Or people treat me like a pushover but use my frustration against me and the Neptune square leaves me confused about what's going on!

That's when the nn conjunct Mercury Jupiter comes in handy, as it gives me the mental and rational abilities to swift through this madness and inner anxieties. Hover, Pluto quincunx's Mercury, so my need to transform how I communicate is still there, it ends up as me appearing not as clever or wise, as I actually am!

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Sun in 7th(amongst others) suggests that you are drawn/attracted and even admire those who are themselves without apology(Sun).

The stable, fixed nature that they exude is appealing to you and you do wish for that same "fixed" nature within yourself- hence your attraction to them.

Jupiter-Mercury conjunct in 7th speaks of how you admire people's flexibility and/or their ingenious nature.

You may also admire their ability to express themselves with vigor and enthusiasm- a quality that you wish you had etc. [/B]


Yes definetely true. I'm drawn to individual people and most of my friendships are based on English and expressing yourself, or having a good mental rapport.

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A good mantra with Venus in 6th that I say(also have Mars(ruler of the 1st) in 6th ) is;

"all things will work out"

"I don't have to have the solution in this red hot minute"

"The solution will come"

"all challenges are an opportunity to know myself better"

I don't disagree with what is being said with regards to the 7th at all. Only adding to it.[/B]


Thank you yes, I'm a complete worrier. If only I could let go of the past and all my thoughts. I really appreciate your insights, any help or different perspective is welcomed and received.

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posted January 25, 2017 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also wanted to add that Venus in Pisces is your blessing. A most beautiful position with enormous emotional resources.; it can absorb so much.

But it can also have such near and deep resonance with divinity more readily available to it like no other position(incl Sag IMO)

Because Venus is exalted in Pisces, you could have the ability to access that part of you that learns to "let go".

Even when Uranus and Moon in 3rd are in "I want to find to find the answer" Sag, you can quieten that restlessness by focusing on spiritual avenues and learning mantras.

Venus in Pisces may have you succeed and progress in learning relaxation techniques and connection with the spiritual essence of anything much more willingly and faster than the more "rational" people who want to approach it with their mind.

Write the restless nature of your Moon/Uranus in 3rd away and allow that to be your inner dialogue. But use key words to evoke feelings instead of full sentences and listen out for a unique experience in your inner dialogue to acknowledge and meditate over.

Explore the 8th house sexuality through reading and consider wearing something from the ocean on your body i,e pearls, sea shells or even stock on clothes that are loose fitting or have a very ethereal quality to them. Go barefoot now and then

It may sound silly, but I have found that clothes tend to also influence how we feel and may help in keeping us centered and making us feel like we are part of the universe and NOT expected to control it.

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posted January 26, 2017 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rayla2055     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Omg, bluebell didn't know you had an account on here.

Tell me how everything went with that guy harry

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posted January 26, 2017 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 27, 2017 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rayla2055     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the welcome Ami. Can you do me a favor, cherry?

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posted January 27, 2017 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluebelle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I also wanted to add that Venus in Pisces is your blessing. A most beautiful position with enormous emotional resources.; it can absorb so much.

But it can also have such near and deep resonance with divinity more readily available to it like no other position(incl Sag IMO)

Because Venus is exalted in Pisces, you could have the ability to access that part of you that learns to "let go".

Even when Uranus and Moon in 3rd are in "I want to find to find the answer" Sag, you can quieten that restlessness by focusing on spiritual avenues and learning mantras.

Venus in Pisces may have you succeed and progress in learning relaxation techniques and connection with the spiritual essence of anything much more willingly and faster than the more "rational" people who want to approach it with their mind.

Write the restless nature of your Moon/Uranus in 3rd away and allow that to be your inner dialogue. But use key words to evoke feelings instead of full sentences and listen out for a unique experience in your inner dialogue to acknowledge and meditate over.

Explore the 8th house sexuality through reading and consider wearing something from the ocean on your body i,e pearls, sea shells or even stock on clothes that are loose fitting or have a very ethereal quality to them. Go barefoot now and then

It may sound silly, but I have found that clothes tend to also influence how we feel and may help in keeping us centered and making us feel like we are part of the universe and NOT expected to control it.


Hi, your ideas on clothes resonates with me brilliantly (Libra asc after all!) I could do a lot more to utilise the venus Pisces spiritual nature...clothes and other Venusian pursuits definetely make me happy. What you said about using the nature to absorb and let go really resonated. I was too busy concentrating on my mind and getting worked up about things. I'm going to practice 'letting go.'

Thank you for your ideas (L)

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posted January 27, 2017 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluebelle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I also wanted to add that Venus in Pisces is your blessing. A most beautiful position with enormous emotional resources.; it can absorb so much.

But it can also have such near and deep resonance with divinity more readily available to it like no other position(incl Sag IMO)

Because Venus is exalted in Pisces, you could have the ability to access that part of you that learns to "let go".

Even when Uranus and Moon in 3rd are in "I want to find to find the answer" Sag, you can quieten that restlessness by focusing on spiritual avenues and learning mantras.

Venus in Pisces may have you succeed and progress in learning relaxation techniques and connection with the spiritual essence of anything much more willingly and faster than the more "rational" people who want to approach it with their mind.

Write the restless nature of your Moon/Uranus in 3rd away and allow that to be your inner dialogue. But use key words to evoke feelings instead of full sentences and listen out for a unique experience in your inner dialogue to acknowledge and meditate over.

Explore the 8th house sexuality through reading and consider wearing something from the ocean on your body i,e pearls, sea shells or even stock on clothes that are loose fitting or have a very ethereal quality to them. Go barefoot now and then

It may sound silly, but I have found that clothes tend to also influence how we feel and may help in keeping us centered and making us feel like we are part of the universe and NOT expected to control it.


Hi, your ideas on clothes resonates with me brilliantly (Libra asc after all!) I could do a lot more to utilise the venus Pisces spiritual nature...clothes and other Venusian pursuits definetely make me happy. What you said about using the nature to absorb and let go really resonated, and I was too busy concentrating on my mind.

Thank you for your ideas (L)

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posted January 28, 2017 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted March 08, 2017 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a sun very close to the 8th house too.
Sometimes I think I'm both.I heard that indeed when are near the cusp,we feel like if is in 2 houses at the same time.

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posted March 09, 2017 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm definitely "least likely to marry."

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