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Topic: Egyptian, Ptolemaean or Chaldaean terms?
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SunAscendant
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posted March 20, 2017 04:34 PM
  
Which set of terms would you say is the most accurate? I feel like people don't care much about terms in natal chart reading, but I think it is. I use it in horary as well. But yes, which set of terms would you say is most widely used and accepted as the "right set "? For example, my Ascendant is at 12 Cancer and in Ptolemaean and Chaldean I'd fall under Jupiter's term, while Egyptian terms has me in Venus' or Mars terms (I've seen both). Which one is correct? IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted March 21, 2017 03:24 PM
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Stellia
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posted March 28, 2017 05:49 PM
Can I jump in and ask - what are terms and why are they significant please?Do you use them like other elements eg in natal, synastry etc or are they only useful in horary stuff? I tried to search this the other day - but couldn't find a dummies guide anywhere online
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Kannon McAfee
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posted March 29, 2017 04:49 PM
It is an esoteric debate originating with Ptolemy that is irrelevant to modern astrology.From The Arkana Dictionary of Astrology by Fred Gettings: quote:
terms The planetary terms consist of a series of zodiacal arcs in which are assigned sub-ruling planets which are supposed to influence the nature of these arcs. These subdivisons, unlike those of the decans or the faces, are not of equal arc ... One problem that has arisen is the failure of astrologers to note that Ptolemy was writing about three separate systems, and did not appear to be happy about any one.
Astrodienst probably included them to entice horary astrologers to use their chart service since traditional/classical horary is the only common way any astrologers use terms in modern times. Note they are listed under the heading "Traditional astrology options." ------------------
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SunAscendant
Knowflake Posts: 1691
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posted March 31, 2017 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
It is an esoteric debate originating with Ptolemy that is irrelevant to modern astrology.From The Arkana Dictionary of Astrology by Fred Gettings: Astrodienst probably included them to entice horary astrologers to use their chart service since traditional/classical horary is the only common way any astrologers use terms in modern times. Note they are listed under the heading "Traditional astrology options."
Oh so I should use it for horary. I tend to do horary more than natal chart predictions anyways. If I were to use them to read my natal it probably wouldn't matter I guess. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee
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posted March 31, 2017 05:42 PM
These terms are not necessary to perform horary astrology, just something some traditional astrologers have attempted to apply. Ptolemy was dubious about them and in my view they are on shaky ground. ------------------
The Declinations Guy
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SunAscendant
Knowflake Posts: 1691
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posted March 31, 2017 07:22 PM
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
These terms are not necessary to perform horary astrology, just something some traditional astrologers have attempted to apply. Ptolemy was dubious about them and in my view they are on shaky ground.
Interesting. I have a question though, you must really believe in declinations right? Is that something people should look into? I rarely ever look at declinations in synastry, composite charts etc. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee
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posted March 31, 2017 08:09 PM
Absolutely. No chart interpretation is complete unless you include the declinations.------------------
The Declinations Guy
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SunAscendant
Knowflake Posts: 1691
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posted March 31, 2017 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Absolutely. No chart interpretation is complete unless you include the declinations.
So just to make sure I understand declinations. If my moon is at 22 degrees South and my Uranus is also at 22 degrees South, does that mean they're parallel?
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Kannon McAfee
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posted April 01, 2017 08:55 AM
Yes. Parallels are conjunctions of declination. Interpret just as you would a regular conjunction.------------------
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SunAscendant
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posted April 01, 2017 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Yes. Parallels are conjunctions of declination. Interpret just as you would a regular conjunction.
Thank you! I think I'm also going to start looking at dispositors. I'm trying to deepen my study of astrology. I've been heavily focused on only horary astrology for awhile. IP: Logged |
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