posted March 29, 2017 11:33 AM            

The article over-dramatizes with notions of destruction and 'violence', and with its leading assumption, "Uranus in the fifth house is not at all favourable, so far as children are concerned." He extrapolates too far.

The article goes off track with the paragraph beginning ... "In the best condition ..." with references to persons and charts not displayed and which cannot verified to the specificity of presumed Uranus in 5th (Luther, Coleridge, Savonarola, Dickens). So the examples are confusing at best, misleading at worst. Thus the statement that only two of the seven mentioned had children is entirely irrelevant to the principle of Uranus in the 5th house.

Otherwise, some good insights into the principles involved. Remember, this article was written roughly a century ago (Aleister Crowley 1875-1947).

It is far better to look at the actual birth chart of the child, rather than anticipate some of the problems or peculiarities by Uranus in the 5th house of one parent. If Uranus is in the 5th house of one parent that is their placement and relates to factors in their relation to romance and children, etc. There is roughly an 11/12 chance Uranus will not be in the 5th house of the other parent's chart.

I don't consider Aleister Crowley a solid source for learning astrology. Take a look at the article The Master Key to Astrology. He uses as chart examples:

- William Shakespeare in spite of the fact that we do not have a verified birth date for him (only date of baptism): data XX 'Date in question.'

- Dante (Alighieri), same XX rating for no date. Only the year of his birth is verified: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dante_Alighieri

This kind of sloppy astrology was unfortunately common in Crowley's day and its commonality persisted until the 1990s with the advent of Lois Rodden's rating system.

posted March 29, 2017 11:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
The article is about Uranus in the 5th, not specifically the cusp. Those with Uranus near the 5th house cusp are a small audience indeed.

The article over-dramatizes with notions of destruction and 'violence', and with its leading assumption, "Uranus in the fifth house is not at all favourable, so far as children are concerned." He extrapolates too far.

The article goes off track with the paragraph beginning ... "In the best condition ..." with references to persons and charts not displayed and which cannot verified to the specificity of presumed Uranus in 5th (Luther, Coleridge, Savonarola, Dickens). So the examples are confusing at best, misleading at worst. Thus the statement that only two of the seven mentioned had children is entirely irrelevant to the principle of Uranus in the 5th house.

Otherwise, some good insights into the principles involved. Remember, this article was written roughly a century ago (Aleister Crowley 1875-1947).

It is far better to look at the actual birth chart of the child, rather than anticipate some of the problems or peculiarities by Uranus in the 5th house of one parent. If Uranus is in the 5th house of one parent that is their placement and relates to factors in their relation to romance and children, etc. There is roughly an 11/12 chance Uranus will not be in the 5th house of the other parent's chart.

I don't consider Aleister Crowley a solid source for learning astrology. Take a look at the article The Master Key to Astrology. He uses as chart examples:

- William Shakespeare in spite of the fact that we do not have a verified birth date for him (only date of baptism): data XX 'Date in question.'

- Dante (Alighieri), same XX rating for no date. Only the year of his birth is verified: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dante_Alighieri

This kind of sloppy astrology was unfortunately common in Crowley's day and its commonality persisted until the 1990s with the advent of Lois Rodden's rating system.

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posted March 29, 2017 04:40 PM            

Uranus is the principle of the tele- in either the psychic sense or relation to the broader public. It is the natural principle of the 11th. So closely positioned with the 5th cusp it relates to performance, generally for an audience. It can also relate to innovative creative output. Generally such persons behave in an outré fashion to some degree, enjoying the drama of the unexpected romance, the stage. flouting conventions and expectations. It would be somewhat similar to having it opposite/contra-parallel Asc, but specifically related to performance and creative output.

posted March 29, 2017 05:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Its meaning there is the same, only more pronounced. It becomes an aspect as with another planet instead of a placement within a +/-30° arc. But this really only should be categorized as an aspect in my opinion if it is within probably well under 1°, probably 1/2 degree. In order to know if you have such a planet-to-cusp aspect, the Asc must be validated to the degree and minute of arc, or as close as you can get.

Uranus is the principle of the tele- in either the psychic sense or relation to the broader public. It is the natural principle of the 11th. So closely positioned with the 5th cusp it relates to performance, generally for an audience. It can also relate to innovative creative output. Generally such persons behave in an outré fashion to some degree, enjoying the drama of the unexpected romance, the stage. flouting conventions and expectations. It would be somewhat similar to having it opposite/contra-parallel Asc, but specifically related to performance and creative output.

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