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sassaqua
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posted October 17, 2018 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isn't this Interpersonal ?

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posted November 01, 2018 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted November 26, 2018 05:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've also been wondering about this - Composite or Davison? I find myself swinging back & forth between the two and can't decide which to rely on. Jewel Mayberry says both tell the same story but I still have a hard time reconciling because some aspects that show in Composite don't show up in Davison. How is that the same story?

For e.g. Saturn square Mars in our Composite but in Davison, that aspect isn't there. So does this energy still exist? If yes, through which other aspect? Also in some charts I see Sun-Mercury-Venus stellium but in Davison there's only Sun-Venus conjunct. So do they have the stellium which supposedly symbolises a very close, loving r/s (or not)?

I really hope someone can enlighten me.

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posted July 24, 2019 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Synastry comparison - to ascertain how the two people interact with each other.

Composite chart - to ascertain how the two people are seen by others (as a team).

Davison chart - to ascertain the purpose of the relationship (i.e.. why the two souls are together in their current incarnation).

So ... to fully analyse, synthesise and understand a relationship ... synastry, composite AND davison charts ... rather than synastry vs. composite vs davison.

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posted August 06, 2019 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 19, 2019 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Graham:

Composite chart - to ascertain how the two people are seen by others (as a team).

I've heard of this but cannot understand it. Why do people spend so much time analysing a chart which only reflects how others see them? What you really are as a couple is more important isn't it?

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posted August 20, 2019 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good point.

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posted August 22, 2019 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I've heard of this but cannot understand it. Why do people spend so much time analysing a chart which only reflects how others see them? What you really are as a couple is more important isn't it?

As an example ... a Neptune-afflicted couple, whose synastry reveals a mutual belief their partner will never stray vs. a Uranian-afflicted composite chart that reveals a need to experience a variety of romantic partners. ... And, perhaps a Davison Chart indicating the two people are in the relationship in order to develop greater self-control.


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posted August 22, 2019 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Graham.

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posted August 24, 2019 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Graham:

As an example ... a Neptune-afflicted couple, whose synastry reveals a mutual belief their partner will never stray vs. a Uranian-afflicted composite chart that reveals a need to experience a variety of romantic partners. ... And, perhaps a Davison Chart indicating the two people are in the relationship in order to develop greater self-control.

So let's say a Uranian-afflicted composite... people see them as a couple who needs to experience a variety of romantic partners (bearing in mind that what others perceive may not be true)? Or they're really like that?

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posted August 25, 2019 05:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
So let's say a Uranian-afflicted composite... people see them as a couple who needs to experience a variety of romantic partners (bearing in mind that what others perceive may not be true)? Or they're really like that?

I would expect the individual natal charts to reveal what each of the two people are really like - and the synastry comparison to reveal any issues caused by what each of them is really like.

The Davison will reveal if a purpose of their relationship is to address what each of them is really like (or/and the issues created by them being so).

The Composite then reveals the extent to which what they are really like is apparent to others.

For example* ... In the natal chart - partner A needs to experience a variety of romantic relationships, but requires partner B to "have eyes only for partner A". ... In the davison, both partners are learning to exercise greater self-control. ... In the composite, Uranus is signalling the need for the couple to experience a variety of romantic relationships.

Neighbours, friends, associates and other third-party contacts of the couple will see the Uranus signal clearly ... and some will inevitably hit on partner A, in the hope/belief that he/she may stray (since what partner B never knows will not hurt him/her).

But ... partner A is learning (via the davison) to not respond to being hit upon. ... And (perhaps) to recognise that role-playing between two people who genuinely love each other can satisfy the Uranian urge, without the need to involve any third-party.


[*In reality, how this Partner A scenario actually plays out will be influenced by the natal chart issues/promise of Partner B.]

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posted September 08, 2019 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Ah... thanks for the explanation!

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posted September 08, 2019 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Graham

Would you say that the Davison shows a clearer picture of what might happen in real life? While the Composite shows more of the energies?

E.g. I have cMars opposite Uranus with my guy but in Davison it turns into a sextile. My experience so far (we've been together 1+yr) feels more like the sextile. In Synastry we have Mars trine Uranus DW and he also has the trine in Natal.

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
@Graham

Would you say that the Davison shows a clearer picture of what might happen in real life? While the Composite shows more of the energies?

E.g. I have cMars opposite Uranus with my guy but in Davison it turns into a sextile. My experience so far (we've been together 1+yr) feels more like the sextile. In Synastry we have Mars trine Uranus DW and he also has the trine in Natal.


If the Davison purpose was (say) for the two people to become more assertive ... being together provides an opportunity (sextile) for each to bring that quality out in the other.

However ... that might be achieved through them engaging in Mars-Uranus conflicts/fights with each other. ... And, those fights would be seen by third-parties as "oppositions" within the two-person team.

So ... the Davison is revealing what is really happening (in terms of soul-development), whilst the composite is revealing how the energy (ego-interactions) which make that happen are seen by others. And the two people in the relationship (instinctively/intuitively) "know the truth" ... that their Mars-Uranus disagreements are ok (rather than not ok).

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posted September 09, 2019 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I use synastry until there is a reason to use a composite chart. That would be when the two people have merged into a union of some kind and are operating as unit (domestic or maybe business partnership). Midpoints work just fine to give relational information when such a singular chart is needed. And yes, this chart does respond to transits as todd has shown in his many readings of them in the Interpersonal Astrology sub-forum right here in LL>

I have never used Davison relationship charts as I find the factual basis and rational for them too flimsy. And I don't buy into any of the fanciful occult or metaphysical window dressing astrologers put around these kinds of separate charts that cast aside or replace birth data and the radix charts.

Everything goes back to the radix, the natal chart in its precisely accurate form. Too many astrologers would rather play around with variations of other fanciful charts made available commercially for them. Essential information is in every natal chart about relationships and compatibility, but astro-anxiety (what will happen to me/us) blurs the ability to read these effectively before jumping over to a whole other chart.

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posted October 14, 2019 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Kannon.

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