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wayfinder
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posted December 18, 2019 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wayfinder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey all!

Anyone else getting excited for the big conjunction of Saturn and Pluto in Capricorn early next year?

I was wondering what insight anyone might have on this aspect making a square to my natal Mercury. I have the Pluto Saturn conjunction happening right at the cusp of my 11th and 12th house while my mercury is in my 2nd house at 22 Aries, ruling my 4th house and intercepted in my 7th (Virgo) no other natal aspects except a sextile to my natal Pluto in the 9th. Im a little nervous its going to bring some communication break down or effect my home in some way.

Id be happy to post my chart if needed. Does anyone else have this conjunction hitting personal planets? Id love to hear about it and your thoughts

Thanks!

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posted December 18, 2019 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you post your chart, start a new thread to put it in Personal Readings.

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I think the previous Saturn-Pluto conjunction was at 27Libra36, on 8th November 1982. ... So, the one in January 2020 will be the start of a new 38-years-long cycle for all of us.

The last one brought endings and new beginnings for everyone, and the next one will do the same.

However ... the posting of your chart is indeed required, if seeking predictions about what those endings and new beginnings might be for you.

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posted December 21, 2019 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Saturn 16, Mars 21, Pluto 24 in Libra. Will I be affected ?

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My Chart :
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quote:
Originally posted by Somna7H:
My Saturn 16, Mars 21, Pluto 24 in Libra. Will I be affected ?



it happens at 22Capricorn47 .. squaring your natal Mars - and thus activating the whole of your natal Chiron-Sun-Mars-Neptune bathtub configuration.

But ... to explore that, you have to open a thread in personal readings.

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posted December 22, 2019 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Graham:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Somna7H:
[b]My Saturn 16, Mars 21, Pluto 24 in Libra. Will I be affected ?



it happens at 22Capricorn47 .. squaring your natal Mars - and thus activating the whole of your natal Chiron-Sun-Mars-Neptune bathtub configuration.

But ... to explore that, you have to open a thread in personal readings.

[/B][/QUOTE]

Thank you!

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posted June 03, 2020 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Graham:

. . .
natal Chiron-Sun-Mars-Neptune bathtub configuration.


(music) Rubber Ducky Song . . . . .
(Classic Sesame Street)
[2:20] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZnJT2zOIX0

Somna!.. Reading your other posts around LL, you've been feeling like you're in 'hot water'?
*Thinking of You*

Wayfinder, I see it lined up in conjunction with your Juno Capricorn 22+ at end of 11th House, and conjunct your NN at 25+.
Anything to report yet?

Graham! The scope of your knowledge is SO impressive!

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posted June 20, 2020 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mirage29:

(music) Rubber Ducky Song . . . . .
(Classic Sesame Street)
[2:20] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZnJT2zOIX0

Somna!.. Reading your other posts around LL, you've been feeling like you're in 'hot water'?
*Thinking of You*


Good one.Thanks!
But in reality I become Steel Ducky now.
And I'm Drowning too..... :P

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posted June 20, 2020 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Somna7H:
Good one. Thanks!
But in reality I become Steel Ducky now.
And I'm Drowning too..... :P

{{{*GIANT HUG* }}}

You've been doing some excellent, hard, self-examination, --- and came to be living with some tough circumstances. Now, there's the COVID.

Are you following your Personal Daily Horoscopes at Astrodienst?

Take a look-- knowing what is happening, should HELP you, okay?

Quoting Astrodienst here--

MARS SQUARE NEPTUNE
18 June to 21 June
Don't cave in

During this time most people have to deal with feelings of doubt, discouragement and inadequacy.

Also you may find yourself unpleasantly confronted by the consequences of past actions that you hoped would simply go away.
The challenge is to confront them without caving in and feeling hopeless.

Now you will question whether you are doing what you should with your life.
The temptation is to decide that you are not, and to give up.
Others may try to convince you that you are on the wrong course and give you very demoralizing advice.
. .
Of course, you may in fact be wrong in some area, and there you should change course.

But you must avoid the tendency to cave in.

Evaluate what you are doing in your own terms, not someone else's, and decide whether you are acting properly in various matters.
*~ end/quote

Sunday, you'll have a GOOD Transit.
SUN trine JUPITER
lasts 3 or 4 days. -- YAY!!!
This is a "lucky" transit.
Known for having some "dumb luck"..
{something good that comes your way without your having earned or deserved it}

Another transit---
This ECLIPSE we are having right now --
New Moon SOLAR Eclipse 0.24 Cancer
is in your 2nd House!

The next Eclipse near your Birthday
happens in your 8th House.

2nd House and 8th House are financial houses.

Eclipses can suddenly reveal something you didn't know. Can OPEN a Door, and close some doors that need closing. Close previous circumstances and situations that NEED to change for you.

2nd House is your money, your 'stuff', it's about Talents you might not realized that you had, and it's related to your Self-Esteem.

You can get some HEALING during this time.
Offer for the Beneficial to Stay
and for anything you're done with, to be removed from you,
like lifting a sweatshirt over your head, to take it OFF.
Remove.
Remove what your done with.
Consolidate what is GOOD.


New Moons, and NEW STARTS.
Full Moons, are a culmination.

Somna WITH the Eclipse and for the 3 or 4 days, I want you to take a kind of INNER Vacation.

How to do that?
I want you to imagine that you overheard, or someone told you, that your current situation is settled, and an ANSWER came through for you, and ALL YOU HAVE TO DO now is "wait for it".

IMAGINE someone says (in real world) that you have been SELECTED to start a new job and they have a great place for you to live; they will give you a GENEROUS sum of money as a token for hiring you; all your costs for relocation and wardrobe, etc, ARE Covered.

So. You've been Hired.
There's Lodging, and a BONUS coming.

Imagine that someone REALLY said that.

And.. REST. REST inside you with the RELIEF that things worked out for you!

Hold that 'sense' .. that 'feeling' of things SOLVED, within yourself.

It's just a matter of Time.
You'll be WAITING.. and happy inside.

---
That's your Eclipse Homework!!

Sometimes, the new moon times can feel like it pulls you within. Cancer energy can feel more 'sensitive'.

Use that sensitivity to go out and find peaceful things to look at. Nature.


This morning I was dealing with some things in my feelings. I was sitting by a tree, and a hedge with soft round leaves. I looked at the bark of the tree trunk, and REALIZED how I used to do that when I was a child in the woods near my house.

It brought back a 'Comfort' feeling.

Find something for your 'Comfort'.

Gotta go. There's thunder and lighting.. yikes!
BYE.

Take GOOD Care... {{{ }}}

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posted June 21, 2020 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@mirage29

Thank you dear.
Yes, Eclipse always put impact on my life doesn't matter big or small, good or bad.
I have seen many eclipses happening on Gemini/Sag and 2nd/8th Axis in my life.
So Eclipse just ended and it can give result any times from now till withing 3 months may be I guess.
Now I have venus, Moon and 2nd House Cusp all in Mrigashira Pada 4. And Eclispe happen on Mrigasira too.
I will be surprised if nothing happen to me.
Also next Eclipse on my South Node in 8th.
So things may happen doesn't matter I like it or not.
And Yes Miracle can happen.
Only Miracle can save me now but nothing else.
When ever i got free time I see my Transits.
I sometime also watch transit videos on youtube.
Thanks you for your help.
Hope this Mrigashira Eclispe bring good things in your life.

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posted June 21, 2020 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much for your own well-wishes towards Me!
You have no idea how much I Value your words, and the energy and intention behind them.

And of course, you know I am one of your Mrig Buddies. It's my Mercury Gem WITH Ketu in the degrees you have.

I had an astrologer once tell me that WHEN you are heading for a direct-transit, the best thing to do, is to think and adjust yourself, that when it comes, and {for an example, use rocket exploding} you are in impact, that the force of it might be able to PROJECT you in the 'better'-direction and outcome.

AND .
I heard another astrologer say that the universe grades your aspects BASED on Difficulty. If you have a difficult chart and aspects, then you are CREDITED for how hard it is.

Like in the Olympics. The skaters can do routines and patterns, and do those perfectly. But if you have a skater that was given a more-complicated and difficult routine to perform, and they 'wobbled', the Judges GIVE that person EXTRA CREDIT. The wobbles don't count as much as the difficulty of it, and how they performed 'through' it.

Do your Best.

And, if you have had a time of thinking 'down' about yourself, and {TEMPORARILY} give-in to the 'doom' feeling? That's okay.

When I was a single mother, working full time job, and didn't have anyone 'helping or supporting' me in life, the TOLL of that used to 'get' to me.

I believe in remaining forward and hoping,
and sometimes THAT just didn't feel like the 'truth' of the situation.

What I used to do was to have {what I called} "Dying Duck" moments!

I would choose from 8:00pm, after the children were in bed for the night, and I would sit there, by myself, and I would 'indulge' in EVERY. SINGLE. worry and negative thought, and horrible outcome that came to my mind. I would cry...
THEN, at 8:20 pm, I would STOP.

I would then remind myself-- re-doing every one of those words, and every one of those mind-pictures, with a Cause FOR Hope.

You know that I am a Christian.
I would use sacred scriptures like they are Mantras.
I would "pray" the scriptures I had studied and spent time contemplating. I would direct energies through them, as though I were "prophesying" and speaking into the astral realms, into the Future.

I'm glad I was able to have a safe-place, 'Under that Holy Umbrella'. It was a private place to let 'everything' out, with security, because I knew I would NOT be condemned for it.

GOD knows we are human.
"There is therefore, NO condemnation.. "
~ scripture

God is Love

BE, and ABIDE, in a Spirit of Love.
It RAISES you.
It Nurtures and brings Strength to the Highest that is IN you.


Your Venus is there...
LOVE. Feel LOVE .. in the Spirit,
and from your friends at LL.

Your Chiron is there...
The LOVE you have, can HEAL wounds ..
self and other.

Your Moon is there...
Reflect...
The Moon reflects "Light"
.. upon the darkness on the Earth.
Brings Comfort. Solace.

(music) I Am Light (India Arie, SuperSoul Sessions, OprahWinfrey) [3:38] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL-gxfx2QtY

Walk in it

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posted June 21, 2020 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mirage29:

And of course, you know I am one of your Mrig Buddies. It's my Mercury Gem WITH Ketu in the degrees you have.


Wow!
So Conjuncting Mercury and Ketu in Synastry mean Spiritual/Occult talking ? Very interesting.

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posted June 22, 2020 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know life is not fair.
So no one will give credit doesn't matter how odd your surroundings is.
But I'm totally positive about this eclipses.
It's now or never.
It will be in 2020 or it will never happen.

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posted July 07, 2020 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stay positive. Life can change practically overnight.

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posted July 07, 2020 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm trying.
Mean while our state preparing for another lock down. 😞

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posted July 08, 2020 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Was thinking about you yesterday when I saw this video.

VEDIC ASTROLOGY
Venus' Cycle: Love and Money
(Joni Patri, posted July 7, 2020)
[18:40] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNNruxnBQKw

Here's her youtube channel. {yt}
- http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzQ5JiuXVX3enojkU3Plalw

Did you ever do Astrodienst chart and check the box to include 6 Fixed Stars? If not, go see it. You have some planets on Fixed Stars.
.. Joni Patry did teaching series on "Fixed Stars". Scroll down the youtube channel page. You'll find them.

She also does an introductory class on Vedic.
That video is the one that plays when you click onto her yt. Runs for 55 minutes. I watched it once, and learned a LOT. I'll have to do a review soon-- and take notes this time.

Close to your birthday, there's going to be New Moon Cancer 28.27. .. Has Saturn opposed, so, it may "feel" like tough energy.. but WAIT through this time. There will also be a trine to Neptune, and sextile to Jupiter.. which is for Dreaming your Dreams. Even IF it feels impossible, .. just wait with it. Let this month complete itself. Gnarly spot mid-July.
Of course, Saturn (and Pluto) have been across from your Sun for over a year now.

Saturn moves into Aquarius WITH Jupiter at end of this year and into the next.

Do you read sacred or inspirational text passages?

Make sure you bathe your mind with gentle {and holy} energies for even a small period each day. Put your worries to the side, and let your heart open and pray good mantras, read and reflect on holy scriptures each day.

For example too..
during the day you might have worrisome thoughts.
I use scriptures as an 'answer' to the worry.
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me."
"This too shall pass.." {yup! from holy scriptures.}

Some people {even non Christians} read the Book of Psalms.

Lockdown huh? .. USE that time to get to know your inner self more.

Fall in Love.. with YOU!
not egotistical, NO.. just, 'like' yourself and think good thoughts about self, a lot.

God Made You God has a Plan.

(music) He who began a good work in you (Steve Green, Philippians 1:6)
[3:22] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsynL7m_1VE

"He Who began a Good work in you,
will be Faithful to Complete it-- in you."

Here's a young woman singing the song.
Maybe you can listen, and pretend she is trying to comfort and encourage you, singing the message DIRECTLY to you!

(music) He Who Began a Good Work in You -
Steve Green (Cover by Dawn James & Wathy Jamir)
[2:50] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FVo4L9tpaw

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posted July 09, 2020 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@mirage29
It's good to see you again. 😊
Yes I watch Jony Patry.
Except those all long videos.
But I missed that video.
May be because I was depressed regarding my current love life.
I know few fix stars.
Like Algol Conjunct my Asc.
Then another star Conjunct my Mars Pluto. There's other Conjunct my Moon Venus.
But don't know the effects.
Very few information available regar8 these fix stars.

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posted July 09, 2020 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Joni gives gentler approaches to those Fixed Stars. She has a way. You know that some meanings can scare you pretty badly!! Don't take them "literally" OR personally.

I sneaked a look at your chart. No, your Ascendant is a late 29.01 in Taurus. The star Algol is back at 24+. Kind of wide (Trump has it ON his MC!!) You can take a more philosophical symbolic approach. PLUS, other things might change the strength of their meanings.

Your Sun is ON a fixed star, Procyon. That would figure more prominently for you. Pluto on Arcturus-Spica. Venus-Moon on Polaris (and Betelgeuse).

Patry didn't have a Procyon video.
"AstrologyKing" listed this--
"Sun conjunct Procyon: Great help from friends .., gifts and legacies if not afflicted, military preferment after great struggles and expense. If rising or culminating, kingly preferment. [1]
A valiant demeanor. [4]"

(I have Uranus conjunct Procyon)

The 'language' of first part of that article could be very upsetting if you don't space yourself from the text. It's archaic language and doesn't translate well into more modern times and notions. Towards the bottom of the article, the meanings are more understandable.


*~
I just saw that she has another vid on Jupiter stations {western Capricorn}, in regards to luck and money.

by Feb 27, 2021 You're going to have JUPITER on top of your {western} aqua MC/H10! That's the pinnacle of your chart. Sun and Venus will have been in that 10th house too!
And hey!
You'll have had your asteroid Fortuna Return H11.. your wishes, desires, friends, networks. t Mars will enter your 1st House around that time, brings you 'action' makes you more charismatic? -- careful in sports as it crosses the Ascendant for a few days.

That's a positive! *smile*

September 13, 2020 .. is another date she mentions. t Jupiter Capricorn will still be in your 8th House {banks, finances, inheritances}, and conjunct with your natal Ketu H8/ Rahu H2.
You'll have transiting Ketu conjunct natal Neptune.
-- Oh. Keep in mind also, that that's a significant time for USA {9-11}. We have some financial hazards going on.. If something dire and challenging happens with our finances it could also affect other countries?.. hope not, for you.

As an aside, she discussed "transiting" Neptune Pisces with this time period as being fortunate for folks with interest in photography, film, movies. {t-Nep will for a while be on cusp of your H10/H11}.
. . .
I looked up two asteroids .. Industria and Fortuna. {I don't think she looks at the asteroids? LOL!!}
. . .
For everyone,
Fortuna rx is conjunct that Neptune {and will have been before on its first pass}, across from Sun Virgo conjunct Industria {industry, job-- my roommate was the poster-child for Industria transits and his career-- jaw-drop amazing}.
.. For you, those will be on the cusp of your (H4)/H5virg. Your natal Industria is located ON your IC/H3-side in sign of "LEO-- Lights, Camera, Action!!!" hahaha.

Dude?!! Do you have any interest in films, making videos? Documentaries? Maybe explore a job connected to that industry?

Oh. Another thing.
Remember those "religion" extremist fanatics you talked about in another post? They were fighting and violent outside your building?
Maybe, a heads-up about some of that returning. Be careful.

The Jupiter Stations go on for a period of time, ~~ like months!

For me, Sept 13,
t Jupiter STATION Capricorn would be at the beginning of my H2, trine my Venus Taurus H5 {t Uranus Taurus 10+ conjuncts Venus 12+ for me now}.
..Right now, the Pluto Saturn {with Jupiter} in Capricorn has been trine my Moon-Actor Virgo. I have a 10th House Neptune.

Somna-dude!!! haha.
Look how many planets you'll have hovering around your MC for start of February 2021. Wow. cool. Maybe something will have come for you by that time. H9 has to do with higher ed, and places that are further-away than the location you are now.

JUST FOR FUN!!
Check out this string of asteroids with their transits in your chart. For September, and February.
- 389,19,12238,443,39382,

It affects MY chart, for sure.
If someone asked me if I'd like to be look into that kind of Opportunity, I'd be willing to learn and explore something like that. My chart would support it. The transits too. {Just thinking out of the box!! haha}.

Like Randall said, Somna!!
This time period right now feels prolonged and, is TEMPORARY. It's a "waiting game" right now, but temporary. They say that Times WILL be getting better eventually, with the start of the New Year. Not 'fixed' perhaps, but Better than now?
I sure hope so-- for all our sakes.

So yay. Sounds Exciting!

Just want to say also,
that I have a very deep spirituality,
but I'm in no-way a thump on head dogmatic whacko. LOL. {What I've heard on news, is sooo off and bizarre.}
.. When folks have hard charts, or are going through some terribly tough times, then having Faith {in God} is superb for support, for innerhelp and for strength in persevering through that. Provides a Knowing, an inner-anchor-point to stand through the storms, when all is churning in a tidal state of chaos.

Over the past 20 years, had I not had Faith to endure that first decade and few more years past that, I would not still-be-alive right now.

So!!! Hold on my-man.
And STILL Believe in Love.
If you really want that, it's good to be an upright person, genuine and honest, have integrity-- don't fall for get-rich schemes. Investigate.
And for women, it's WAY better to have the 'right one' rather than chose ~whatever out of being desperate. Marry for Love, not the money. Being with 'the wrong person' in a legal commitment can bring such sorrow.
Make sure she gets an "LL Approval Rating" !!

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