posted May 26, 2014 01:12 AM            

DEJANIRA, let's not forget, was desired to the point that manipulations and deceptions took place. While it's a point where we're 'victimised', it doesn't have to be.

Squares are points of friction. That's it. Two forces that are trying to form unity but are finding issue with it; in some ways by sharing similarity at their core (same modality) but using different manners of expression (two contrasting elements).

PLUTO in relationship to the ASCENDANT will definitely cause a sort of transformation - but unless either of you are being personally 'hit', by way of natal points, the impact won't be nearly as great.

Question is, where's PLUTO? Is this at the IC or the MC?

If at the MC, the relationship will transform your public status; it may even lead to big changes in career or life direction.

Every relationship can be said to change us at the intimate or emotional level, but this one could gut deeply buried psychological patterns - if at the IC.

DEJANIRA, the point at which we fear exploitation, will bring these fears to bear - and purge them.

Yes, you do have to be able to confront them. Both of you. Emotional honesty and the willingness to see each other as a team rather than opponents will show whether or not this can be successful.

If one or both of you start feeling the other is truly being exploitative, it's important to be clear, forthright, and confident in addressing the issue.

Sometimes we have to stand up for ourselves in respect to the ones we love; especially if they're trying to teach us a lesson, and clear psychological patterns.

A few pertinent questions:

posted May 26, 2014 08:50 AM            

- Pluto is in the fourth house, though not at the IC
- 12H is not involved
- Chart Ruler is Mercury. Mercury is in H8 conjunct Venus
- We both have Pluto square ASC (2*,1*) in our natals

posted May 26, 2014 08:09 PM            

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Originally posted by StelliumH6:
Our Composite Chart:

- Pluto is in the fourth house, though not at the IC
- 12H is not involved
- Chart Ruler is Mercury. Mercury is in H8 conjunct Venus
- We both have Pluto square ASC (2*,1*) in our natals

I do not know what "disposited" means?

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No problem.

We have rulerships, and dispositors; it's essentially a 'rulership' by something which isn't actually ruled.

JUNO, for example. It doesn't really 'rule' anything (without debate, that is). However, we CAN learn more about it, dig deeper into it, without analysing its aspects.

Say JUNO is in SAGITTARIUS. The sign has a rulership - JUPITER - which we can say is the 'dispositor' of JUNO. We'll say it's in LEO.

So, altogether, we'd say that JUNO is disposited by JUPITER in LEO.

posted May 28, 2014 03:55 AM            

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Originally posted by StelliumH6:
Indigo, I understand this perfectly due to your clear explanation. Thank you!

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