posted May 27, 2014 05:24 PM            

Then add, composite chiron sextile sun and jupiter 5th house..

It would be helpful to write separate explanations..

posted May 28, 2014 08:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Yanmorg:
What does Chiron represent in a composite chart?

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posted May 28, 2014 09:00 AM            

I'm not sure whether you mean composite chiron in the 5th sextiling those planets or that the planets are in the 5th.

Composite Chiron sextile Sun in the 5th house: I would think one of the partner's children or a child of the couple will outshine one of the parents/couple and this will cause difficulty until it can be resolved - and maybe never totally.

Composite Chiron in the 5th sextile the Sun in one of the other houses might generally mean: almost petty details and an endless to do list that could potentially drive a wedge between the partners - or could become an habitual way of living together and possibly not facing some critical issues in their lives.

Composite Chiron sextile Jupiter in the 5th could point to a sensation of competition in physical/sporting or even academic prowess between each other or with their children, or a sense of rivals - which might tend the couple to live superficially due to one or both worrying about keeping up some kind of idea that they have a youthful stamina/energy/strength.

Composite Chiron in the 5th sextile Jupiter in one of the other houses: Again a threat of competition and the pressure of wanting to outshine rivals/competitors/or youth - places pressure on the relationship and takes away from the free and easiness of their bonding - making it a bit superficial and harbouring a degree of stress/anxiety (Chiron's orbit between Saturn and Uranus).

posted May 28, 2014 09:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Chryseis:
Yanmorg, I would think that composite Chiron in the 5th would be about trying to sustain an interest in the fun, romance and lightness of the relationship despite almost overwhelming tendencies for at least one person, maybe both to fall back into a kind of doldrums stemming from past hurts that are still unresolved from prior relationships.

I'm not sure whether you mean composite chiron in the 5th sextiling those planets or that the planets are in the 5th.

Composite Chiron sextile Sun in the 5th house: I would think one of the partner's children or a child of the couple will outshine one of the parents/couple and this will cause difficulty until it can be resolved - and maybe never totally.

Composite Chiron in the 5th sextile the Sun in one of the other houses might generally mean: almost petty details and an endless to do list that could potentially drive a wedge between the partners - or could become an habitual way of living together and possibly not facing some critical issues in their lives.

Composite Chiron sextile Jupiter in the 5th could point to a sensation of competition in physical/sporting or even academic prowess between each other or with their children, or a sense of rivals - which might tend the couple to live superficially due to one or both worrying about keeping up some kind of idea that they have a youthful stamina/energy/strength.

Composite Chiron in the 5th sextile Jupiter in one of the other houses: Again a threat of competition and the pressure of wanting to outshine rivals/competitors/or youth - places pressure on the relationship and takes away from the free and easiness of their bonding - making it a bit superficial and harbouring a degree of stress/anxiety (Chiron's orbit between Saturn and Uranus).

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posted May 28, 2014 10:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Yanmorg:
So positive aspects to Chiron are still red flags in a composite chart?

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I will try an example of a square:

Composite Chiron in 5th square composite Sun in 2nd: Seems to improve the situation maybe because a square challenges the couple and a sextile tends them to accept and not really address the Chironic issue in the 5th.

In your case, composite Chiron in the 5th sextiles sun-Jupiter in the 7th: again makes for the couple or at least one to be overly focused on their youthfulness and attractiveness (7th). One or both would be sensitive to outside influences that might affect how they are perceived in terms of youthfulness/vibrancy/strength/prowess - and the sextile maintains a superficial quality.

With the trine of composite Chiron to Uranus-Neptune in the composite 9th: This could manifest as a free flow of nervous tension over the sensitivity issues of prior hurts of the chiron in the 5th - however, there is more awareness that this is not the way to live and one or both would be trying to develop insight/wisdom/higher perspectives etc in an effort to bring them away from what would seem like the petty concerns and superficialities of the sextiles. Like they would maybe not formally, but generally keep telling themselves that youth/looks/prowess/or the wounds of past hurts and struggles with how they spent their more youthful years and the experiences they had with others, can be overcome through spiritual perspectives/non-judgemental attitudes etc.

posted May 28, 2014 10:19 AM            

It feels like the 'harmonious aspects' get us a bit lost in how to address the placement of chiron - probably because human nature doesn't deal very well with wounds/shame. Having said that though, I think from memory I have looked into composite chiron effects before and generally any aspects to mercury, venus and mars make it more acceptable to communicate, positively address and be accepted for the problems/potentials of the chiron placement. I think from memory composite Chiron in aspect to Moon tended to bring flotsam and jetsam almost flying in like static debris to the couple and maybe even resulting to feeling vulnerable to others and the environment - on the plus side this might enhance their tendency to want to stick together in a united stance against the environment/atmosphere.

Also, somewhere previously I have said that it is not good to have too many conjunctions in a stellium but better to have several conjunctions with lots of trines in the composite and spread out around the chart as it is a stronger chart. When there is a bunch of planets in say an opposition to a few and then some squares off that and maybe only one or two trines - there is a high degree of tension within the couple. Some squares though are beneficial or add something to the relationship, especially those to Jupiter, or just a few squares to some of the outer planets....Generally

posted May 28, 2014 10:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Chryseis:
I will try an example of a square:

Composite Chiron in 5th square composite Sun in 2nd: Seems to improve the situation maybe because a square challenges the couple and a sextile tends them to accept and not really address the Chironic issue in the 5th.

In your case, composite Chiron in the 5th sextiles sun-Jupiter in the 7th: again makes for the couple or at least one to be overly focused on their youthfulness and attractiveness (7th). One or both would be sensitive to outside influences that might affect how they are perceived in terms of youthfulness/vibrancy/strength/prowess - and the sextile maintains a superficial quality.

With the trine of composite Chiron to Uranus-Neptune in the composite 9th: This could manifest as a free flow of nervous tension over the sensitivity issues of prior hurts of the chiron in the 5th - however, there is more awareness that this is not the way to live and one or both would be trying to develop insight/wisdom/higher perspectives etc in an effort to bring them away from what would seem like the petty concerns and superficialities of the sextiles. Like they would maybe not formally, but generally keep telling themselves that youth/looks/prowess/or the wounds of past hurts and struggles with how they spent their more youthful years and the experiences they had with others, can be overcome through spiritual perspectives/non-judgemental attitudes etc.

If there was a quincunx between composite Chiron in the 5th and like a late degree in the 9th house with Uranus-Neptune: The couple would be more motivated to blame others or the culture, world, lack of decent treatment by others, overriding circumstances etc for their feelings of disappointment over waning looks, prowess, or ability to be popular/attractive etc or even the kind of hobbies etc that promote interest from others - so there would tend to be excuses that would actually make the couple feel more proactive against the insults felt by Chiron - they would turn the blame outward instead of trying to keep up a façade/or take on a sensation of the doldrums as being a type of lack on their part.

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posted May 28, 2014 10:36 AM            

If I don't get to all of it now I will look at it in several hours as I was just about to go to bed.