posted May 29, 2014 06:05 AM            

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Originally posted by popcorn:
Ive venus pluto DW and Neptune Venus DW with someone. We also have an eros conj psyche synastry. It feels like hell. It feels like pain. The feelings are the same after many many year... I feel I will vomit when I meet him. I see I scare him too....He want walk away...

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did you meet them when either one of you were having a venus/pluto transit?

posted May 29, 2014 06:34 AM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:

did you meet them when either one of you were having a venus/pluto transit?

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Its feel like a real hell.. and I just don't want what I should do. I think I will live in that kind of feeling for a while. I whish the progression and transit soon will be over but not... That will takes time because my SA/PR sun will exactly be in conj to his N pluto/ PR pluto in february 2015. My SA Pluto will also at the sam time be in conj to his N mars in scorpio...

Just for time Transit pluto square PR composite venus conj composite sun and Transit uranus in opp PR composite venus conj composite sun.. Transit uranus trine our PR venus in leo and sag...

His PR venus are also in square to my PR pluto. Our PR venus in trine to each other.

In natal his Pluto square my N venus. My Pluto sextile his N venus in scorpio..

Talk about trigging Pluto .....

posted May 29, 2014 06:44 AM            

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Originally posted by popcorn:
Ive venus pluto DW and Neptune Venus DW with someone. We also have an eros conj psyche synastry. It feels like hell. It feels like pain. The feelings are the same after many many year... I feel I will vomit when I meet him. I see I scare him too....He want walk away...

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I have had similar Venus-Pluto experiences. You cant be with them nor without them. It finally passed, but it took years. That s why I think of Pluto to Venus or Moon as a detachment lesson. You are pushed together and then ripped apart. Maybe when you finally learn to live WITHOUT that person and to NOT NEED them VITALLY then it resolves into something good.

With someone I like to the point of obsession (it is mutual, but I dont know how much...) we dont have Venus-Pluto in synastry, only a minor aspect in composite, but he is in the middle of Pluto square to Venus transit and I have Pluto on my DC and then in the 7th house transit. Recently I discovered that I have pr Pluto square to my pr Venus transit going on that will culminate in 2 weeks. The obsession already eases... fortunately.. we can even talk to each other without this uncomfortably intensity lurking.

Oh boy, his pr Pluto will still square my pr Venus for two more years! But at least my own pr Pluto to pr Venus fades...

So I think that with Venus-Pluto (or with Pluto-Moon) you are deprived of that person until you do not need them so much any more...

On the positive note and DWs front:

with the same person I have
Sun-Saturn DW
Saturn-Moon DW
Moon-Neptune DW
Moon-Pluto DW
Mercury-Sun DW
Mercury-Venus DW
Mercury-Neptune DW
Venus-Uranus DW
Mars-Uranus DW
Mars-Neptune DW
Juno-NN DW
Venus-Chiron DW
Moon-Chiron DW
Jupiter-Chiron DW
Saturn-Chiron DW
Neptune-Chiron DW

I think I have never had so many DWs with anyone.... not all of them reflect in the composite. I feel though that we are on the same wavelength and understand each other and forgiving is very easy. And sparks fly, while we talk or are at each other's presence (and it is not always comfortable lol). We are just soul mates for the moment being, not partners in any way.

posted May 29, 2014 10:06 AM            

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Originally posted by jjj:
I have had similar Venus-Pluto experiences. You cant be with them nor without them. It finally passed, but it took years. That s why I think of Pluto to Venus or Moon as a detachment lesson. You are pushed together and then ripped apart.

Oh boy, his pr Pluto will still square my pr Venus for two more years! But at least my own pr Pluto to pr Venus fades...

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Im not sure venus-pluto DW in synastry or progression ever will works out good...Im really interessted to know if there are any lifelong happy DW venus-pluto relationships. I dont know any happy couple with this aspect! For me this aspect seems to be the hardest of all aspect.

posted May 29, 2014 03:54 PM            

me and this guy share

his pluto/Saturn/mars are sextile my venus/mercury. my pluto in opposite his venus... I think an easy with a hard makes it exciting.

posted June 01, 2014 05:34 PM            

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Originally posted by whitewitch111:
What does DW synasty even mean? I've heard a lot of talk about it, but don't really understand it...

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It is when an aspect between two objects is repeated both ways in synastry. For example:

Person A's SUN conj Person B's MOON
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Person B's SUN trine Person A's MOON

It's best when they are major aspects (conj, opp, square, trine, sextile), but there are many who like to include the more minor aspects, such as semisextile, quintile, septile, novile, etc. Orbs are a hotly contested subject as well.

posted June 01, 2014 06:18 PM            

We also have Venus Saturn conj exact, tho.

posted February 11, 2016 07:10 AM            

We have

Pluto trine Juno -- Pluto sextile Juno
Moon trine Mars -- Moon conjunct Mars
Sun opposition Venus both ways which becomes the Sun-Venues opposition in composite and conjunction in Davison...
Ascendant/DSC square Nodes -- Ascendant trine North Node
Mercury opposite Mercury (so Mercury is mutually aspected)
Ascendant conjunct Vertex (always a double whammy..)
And finally... maybe my favourite, and very tight orb both ways:
Jupiter novile Vesta both ways which turns into the same aspect in composite of course...

Aaaand
Re: Jupiter noviles... just for fun: my Jupiter is novile his Sun and his Jupiter is novile my Ascendant and... I just love them... lol <3 i really think they are like super duper trine-conjunctions and they really do reflect the capacity for encouraging manifestation of our ideal/higher/exalted self.. it is a great feeling when it surfaces!!

posted February 11, 2016 12:01 PM            

And weird coincidences just for fun (cuz i can't figure out where else to fit this in ):

Composite Mars opposes my Venus
Davison Mars opposes his Venus

Composite Porta Coeli conjunct my Jupiter
Davison Porta Coeli conjunct his Jupiter

I dunno I just think that's cool.

posted February 17, 2016 03:29 AM            

I can now add: I believe that the same-aspect DW is what draws people together.
I also think THAT has to be one of (if not) the first thing(s) to look at in synastry. They might be pretty hidden when containing a minor aspect. It's only with a real focus you discover them then.

I will again add this link for the ones interested in the deeper geometry behind these same-aspect DW's. I'm sure one day someone will dive into it, like I did once & again to slowly absorb the lines beneath such an amazing resonance.
http://www.astrosoftware.com/Symmetries.htm

posted February 18, 2016 10:56 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Wow that's an oldie here.

I can now add: I believe that the [b]same-aspect DW is what draws people together.
I also think THAT has to be one of (if not) the first thing(s) to look at in synastry. They might be pretty hidden when containing a minor aspect. It's only with a real focus you discover them then.

I will again add this link for the ones interested in the deeper geometry behind these same-aspect DW's. I'm sure one day someone will dive into it, like I did once & again to slowly absorb the lines beneath such an amazing resonance.
http://www.astrosoftware.com/Symmetries.htm

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This link is very interesting. I'm still sort of trying to understand parts of it. I gather that something like a Sun-Venus opposition d/w naturally means there is a similar Sun-Venus angle in both charts? It seems like it between him and I. My Sun 21 Scorpio Venus 17 Libra... his Venus 27 Taurus, his Sun 21 Aries... so that makes sense with the orbs of the oppositions.

Edit: woooowww ok all oppositions and conjunctions in composite mean a similar angle between same in botg charts of natives. I see it! Fascinating!

Interestingly we both have Venus in the 12th in our charts, mine 13 degrees from my ascendant and his 17 degrees from his ascendant. I wonder about that one. The other interesting thing about this double whammy is that both of our Suns and Venuses are peregrine natally. So we both feel this aspect verrryy intensely i think..

And yes the significance of the same aspect d/w.. this makes sense to me. Last night i could feel the Jupiter-Vesta novile sooo clearly... you know when as aspect is just singing to you during an interaction with someone? Well it was doing that.. that profound devotion and expansion in the inner sanctum.. in joyful service of love, a deep private essential excitement and posotivity.. it was truly beautiful.

You're saying the minor aspect same-aspect double whammies are also significant when they're sussed out? (I don't really consider a novile a minor aspect.. it's my fave... but I understand why they're called that so I do it )

The Sun-Venus opposition also definitely makes itself known. We admire each other a great deal. I think the opposition gives that respectful awed feeling, as opposed to the kind of appreciation which comes with the conjunction, so easy and identified with it... it's much more admiration..

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*note: a same-aspect DW will not always result in a composite conjunction or opposition. [/B]

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Not always eh? I haven't looked or thought deeply about the math on that one, I've just observed it often enough that same aspect double whammies turn into the same deal in composite so that I began to take it for granted..

posted February 18, 2016 10:58 PM            

So in that case we have

Sun quincunx Sun (forgot that one) -- and we put our Suns in one another's 6th house (strong 6th house theme in his chart and our composite also... we have a lot of fun doing dishes and stuff lol... like, a lot. It's silly)

Juno in one another's 4th house.

posted February 18, 2016 11:12 PM            

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Originally posted by hodad:
Lots of double whammies----you're practically custom-made for eachother! I read somewhere I think it was on Darkstar astrology,that you were married in other lifetimes.Definitely soul-mate material,definitely compatible.You would recognize them the moment you saw each other for the first time.Double whammies just do not happen that often,don't ignore the signs!

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Heehee that is music to my ears. All this posting just to get someone to say something like that!

Thank you.

We certainly have never been able to ignore one another. He makes my whole being sing when he's around, and he always has... he is impossible to miss for me, just swamps all other considerations... such a force, so magical and real and beautiful... And apparently it's not one sided... which flabbergasts me... i guess that's the double whammies at play.. that mutual feeling. I'm beginning to realize i can relax in this relationship because if it's working for me it'll be working for him. If I'm into him he's into me. So i can relax. If it doesn't work out doesn't work--but so far I'm still totally in love and don't see any reason not to be

It's sweet