posted June 02, 2014 07:46 AM            

I'm not sure this is relevant or even related to me (although I feel it is), but he has inserted himself into my family life. He knew my cousin way before me but they were just soccer buddies, two boys who played a group sport together. Now, not only is he BFF with my cousin, my aunt, my uncle, my cousin's sister and my cousin himself think he's this great who might just possibly be interested in me and that I'm the cold one pushing the other away and not giving him a chance.

He confirmed his birth time is around 11am, but he's not sure of the exact hour. Won't check either because he likes to be uncooperative too. ¬¬

SYNASTRY (with only Ceres, Vesta and Juno)

SYNASTRY (with a bunch of asteroids)

COMPOSITE

DAVISON (spherical midpoint)

posted June 02, 2014 12:20 PM            

I think my suspicion is correct here, but I'd like to delve more deeply.

There's a very high likelihood this is your Twin Flame. The back-and-forth, the here-and-not, the periods of intensity, followed by long dry spells, with the incidence of his becoming connected to your family - independent of you.

Ohhhh, yeah.

I'd like to see a few things, (because you already have a few of the major markers according to my research).

Add in:

VERTEX
ISIS (42)
OSIRIS (1923)
DESTINN (6583)
ANGEL (11911)

And, forgive me, for cackling mightily when you said you wouldn't ask him for the minutes of his birthtime because, 'he can be uncooperative'.

I laugh because I KNOW EXACTLY HOW YOU FEEL.

And, I'm beginning to suspect, I'm not the only one in this boat.

Hurrah! More research!

posted June 02, 2014 01:00 PM            

Wow. Whe you said I think his issue is balancing his own desires and retaining control. There is a great power struggle going on inside of him, and whereas he sees you as a possible solution, he also is afraid of becoming vulnerable., I think you nailed him as a person. He comes off to me that way at least.

posted June 02, 2014 01:17 PM            

No need to apologize for a chuckle or two. They were meant to be read to induce that. I did ask him for his specific birth time, yet he wouldn't give it to me. I'm surprised he said it was around 11am, truly. He goes back and forth on how much he wants to open up to me.

I definitely, DEFINITELY didn't want to bring him into my family. He's fun and a great friend and all, but I don't like the underlining pressure of my family thinking we could eventually be an item.

Let me know if you need a clearer chart or anything else. Questions too, since you mentioned research.

Here's the chart with the asteroids and Vertex.

Go on. Give me the verdict.

posted June 02, 2014 01:39 PM            

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He's got Moon and Lilith together? Conjunct your Sun. No wonder he's fighting it.

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posted June 02, 2014 03:01 PM            

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Originally posted by filleaspirant:

But seriously now - I'm not sure many would consider his Lilith is conjunct his Sun, as it's a 6º degree conjunction with an asteroid.

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The midpoint between them looks to be hitting your Sun. And judging by the iffy TOB, you could be looking at a Sun/Moon conjunction. That's a very visceral contact, and you can't predict how someone will react to it, *especially* with Lilith involved.
Besides, the dynamic you're describing sounds more Lilithian than twin flame.

posted June 02, 2014 03:03 PM            

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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
Go on. Give me the verdict.

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... Ohhh, it's not good, fille. That VERTEX is REALLY close to the ASC. Oh, sure, it moves fast, but if we've got the hour down, and he's likely telling you enough of the truth ...

posted June 02, 2014 03:04 PM            

Okay. Bust out the composite with:

posted June 02, 2014 03:06 PM            

:: jots ::

Oh, boy. Yep. Let's see the composite.

posted June 02, 2014 03:15 PM            

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The midpoint between them looks to be hitting your Sun. And judging by the iffy TOB, you could be looking at a Sun/Moon conjunction. That's a very visceral contact, and you can't predict how someone will react to it, *especially* with Lilith involved.

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Ai ai ai! My Sun IS smack on his Moon-Lilith midpoint by 32'. Yup, I calculated it.

posted June 02, 2014 03:17 PM            

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... and you've both got either a near, or conjunct ISIS-OSIRIS.

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I don't think so... I have it natally. It's a 2º conjunction.

I think what you're seeing is the Isis-Karma conjunction we have in Libra

posted June 02, 2014 03:20 PM            

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Looks like your cSUN is on the Great Attractor, too.

:: jots ::

Oh, boy. Yep. Let's see the composite.

And if THAT checks out ... we're gonna have a little talk about fate versus free-will.

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Oh my, what's the Great Attractor?????

posted June 02, 2014 04:03 PM            

It's a lock when there's a conjunction. But your JUNO-ALMA is close, and being brought by both of you.

My thought, were I to hazard a guess, is that you're very likely Twin Flames who are not on a course to Reunite. Seems to me you both could be feeling the push-pull to and from each other throughout your lives while following separate paths.

I've got a little of this going on, except that our composite is insane. So we get confronted by the intensity with greater frequency.

The Great Attractor (along with the Galactic Centre) are two points which pack a huge punch. They position around 15º and 26º SAG, respectively.

I'm intrigued to see what may come about when your pcSUN (that's progressed composite SUN, because my fingers are quite lazy, mind) is crossing it.

posted June 02, 2014 04:12 PM            

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But seriously now - I'm not sure many would consider his Lilith is conjunct his Sun, as it's a 6º degree conjunction with an asteroid.

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The big bad wolf is trying to remember he's on a diet.

posted June 02, 2014 05:00 PM            

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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
The big bad wolf is trying to remember he's on a diet.

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posted June 02, 2014 08:47 PM            

You still think he's a Twin Flame? It's weird, because we've both shared one or two things with one another that we don't share with just anyone, which I think is something you expect from a TF or at least a soulmate.

Interesting! My natal Uranus and Saturn are at 26 Sag. I'll have to look further into this. ;D

I checked and pcSun had already passed through 15 and 26 Sagittarius but pcMoon will be passing those points in 2017/18. I'll write a reminder to come back and update you.

posted June 02, 2014 08:51 PM            

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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
The big bad wolf is trying to remember he's on a diet.

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posted June 02, 2014 08:53 PM            

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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
Am I Red Riding Hood in this relationship?

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...and the picnic basket.

posted June 02, 2014 08:58 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Venus square Mars square Pluto is not pretty. Highly doubt they are twin flames.

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posted June 02, 2014 09:00 PM            

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...and the picnic basket.

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