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IndigoDirae
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posted June 03, 2014 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We've all got our darlings when it comes to analysing a synastry: configurations, patterns, affinity, and those must-have aspects.

But did you have any idea how much you can learn by the MOON alone?

95% of all astrological queries have to do with love and relationships, according to a few polls over the years. This means evaluating a synastry with the MOON most in mind will get you off to a solid start. To some extent -- regardless of the dynamics involved -- individual personalities and feelings will always be present in any synastry, somewhere.

And that's the MOON's purview.

So, let's have a look.

BASIC PERSONALITIES

Start with the element. What are their basic approaches to things? Do they mesh or juxtapose? Are they in harmony or is there friction? How do these signs relate? Is there an aspect happening out-of-sign which creates a connexion where one might normally not exist? That's important. Pay attention to orb, too. The smaller, the more likely these dynamics will be playing out.

Conversely, what if there's no aspect? There will be a lacking on a very basic level; as if the two are failing to connect fundamentally. Bear in mind, that it will have an impact. Of course, other factors can prevail, but they will be working a bit overtime in this respect. Lunar aspects should then be thoroughly investigated to better understand the purpose of this 'missed connexion', especially with respect to the Nodes.

AREA OF IMPACT

We know how these forces are expressing themselves; now the question becomes 'where are they taking place?'

This is where houses become everything.

The most common problem in synastry queries is a one-sided romance theme. This is often seen as a mismatch between lunar overlays.

Exempli gratia, one has their MOON in the other's 6H, while theirs is overlaying in their 8H.

Why is this a mismatch?

The first individual will be directing their emotional energy, and placing their focus, upon matters relating to the daily grind - the little tasks that need to be attended to, perhaps, health and well-being, pets, nutrition - the things that make one's routine.

The second, however, has their attention on that which involves the 8H: sex, death, and taxes, as they say. Plutonian issues. Power dynamics. Resource allocation. Ferreting out the deeper mysteries. Delving way beneath the surface.

Oh, and did I mention sex? That's a big one. The 8H is erotically charged. If, for one, lunar energy is being poured into an area of erotic focus, while the other's is not - you have a mismatch.

Simply put, she will be hanging drapes while he's watching her do so and thinking ... not about home decor; we'll leave it at that.

Or, let's be equal-opportunity, here. He could certainly be doing the drapes-hanging, while she's imagining ... other things.

So. Is it doomed to fail?

Ah! To know that, we must go even deeper.

Stay tuned for my methods for that madness.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 03, 2014 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about sex on a daily basis to honor both Moons/houses?

Nice thread! Can't wait for part 2. Indigo, your really should write a thriller, you have an amazing sense of suspense

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IndigoDirae
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posted June 03, 2014 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Love it. Perfect way to satisfy the need for routine and sexual relations.

And it's funny you say that, as I started in the thriller / suspense genre. Since 2000, it's been bouncing between crime drama and SF, but has stayed in transgressive since.

Now, my work, with the advent of my one-hour drama especially, is becoming one of the most known in the indie transgressive market.

With a chart like mine, that was bound to happen.

I can't remember exactly where, but I've got MELPOMENE with LILITH 1181, and SHERLOCKHOLMES on my MOON. All 3H. All SCO. It's packed.

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posted June 03, 2014 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:

I can't remember exactly where, but I've got MELPOMENE with LILITH 1181, and SHERLOCKHOLMES on my MOON. All 3H. All SCO. It's packed.


Love this! lol

And congratulations on your work! Can I find links to your work on your website?

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posted June 03, 2014 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Love this! lol

And congratulations on your work! Can I find links to your work on your website?


I'm in the process of updating things. For now, I can give you a few links to peruse the various things that have collected over time. Since the infringement regarding the Lachesis project, I removed quite a bit as we went into preproduction.

But there's a rich history to it all. I'm happy to share.

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MorpHnStorM
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posted June 04, 2014 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MorpHnStorM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great thread, Indigo. I can tell you that when I do chart comparisons, one of the very first things I look for are the Moon aspects (esp. Moon-Moon).

As always, I'm looking forward to reading your future posts/articles.

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Ceridwen
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posted June 04, 2014 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I basically agree.

However, as to platonic house overlays of the Moon, I see the exception in a Moon ruling one of the relationship oriented houses, esp. 5th, 7th or 8th house.

If that said Moon as 5th house ruler falls onto the 10th house, it can`t be said that this is a soley platonic or businessoriented overlay, but in fact the professional sphere IS where the romantic sparks will happen, and it might be a almost like a condition for this person to fall in love. Part of their natal make up.

my Moon falls into 2nd house, as ruler of the 8th house - someone putting planets into my 2nd house, even if not conjunct my Moon is very attractive to me.


Other than that I agree with the interpreations you gave here though.

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posted June 04, 2014 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
another thing I noticed that i longterm relationships it really helps to have compatible Moons.

my brother and his gf are an exception - his Moon in sag, hers in Virgo. However her Sun-Moon-opposition overlays his ASC-DESC-axis tightly and conj/ opp. his Sun.

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posted June 04, 2014 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
another thing I noticed that i longterm relationships it really helps to have compatible Moons.

my brother and his gf are an exception - his Moon in sag, hers in Virgo. However her Sun-Moon-opposition overlays his ASC-DESC-axis tightly and conj/ opp. his Sun.


Are they squared or out of orb?

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posted June 04, 2014 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Are they squared or out of orb?

I misremembered. Not tied to his Sun.

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posted June 04, 2014 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How interesting! Not even in square. Definitely his Sun/Moon opp right on her angles cross with their Neptune and Neptune so important for them. Also, I think this Moon conjunct Jupiter in his 8th and his 8th being ruled by Jupiter and Jupiter right on MC helps too, gives some happy Moon feeling. Nice Kite interconnected with the Cross, a wonderful combo in a synastry - gives very high and balanced feelings and actions.

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posted June 04, 2014 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
How interesting! Not even in square. Definitely his Sun/Moon opp right on her angles cross with their Neptune and Neptune so important for them. Also, I think this Moon conjunct Jupiter in his 8th and his 8th being ruled by Jupiter and Jupiter right on MC helps too, gives some happy Moon feeling. Nice Kite interconnected with the Cross, a wonderful combo in a synastry - gives very high and balanced feelings and actions.

actually it is him in the inner wheel and her outside.
They are certainly an interesting couple.
Nagging like an old married couple (my brother claims he is NEVER Going to get married, but in fact they are just as committed as any married couple, even without the certificate. lol).

Been together for 8 or 9 years this year. Living together for 4 I think.

Very temperamental and blunt with each other. But a lot of sparks and caring at the same time.


With his Moon-Jupiter-uranus-conjunction squaring his own Sun, and Venus-Mars in aries he really needs a strong, independent woman who can hold her own, has a smart head on her shoulders, not easily being intimidated by his philosophies and monologuing, and yet is sensitive and compassionate. Should be a bit more assertive than he is (he is all talks, and analyzing what is going wrong, but doesn`t really fight; on the other hand he once reanimated a woman that collapsed in front of the line to a counter. How many people manage to do that? Bring someone back from the brink of dead? Even the doctor who arrived then remarked on how lucky that woman was and how rarely that really works, in cases as severe as this one. Can you sense I am an awfully proud big sister? Sorry, but I AM proud of my little brother, for all his flaws, he is an extraordinary human being, and I told EVERYONE he would be when he was being born. AS if I could have known. lol)

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posted June 06, 2014 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fireopal09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bow to the Masters. :-) During the first incarnation with Manfriend 20 years ago, I absolutely see how our squared Moons played out (My 7H Pisces, his 10H Sagittarius). After 15 years of my Moon getting a bit tougher & more discerning and his Moon getting less dogmatic & more empathetic through tribulations, we have gained mutual respect for each other's wisdom. My Moon falls in his 1H and his falls in my 4H & conjuncts my Venus. Sagittarian Venus & Moon make for great playmates. Also, due to my haphazard study of astrology over the last few years, I have been able to get a better grasp on the psychology & dynamics of myself, Manfriend & our relationship.

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posted June 06, 2014 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
actually it is him in the inner wheel and her outside.
They are certainly an interesting couple.
Nagging like an old married couple (my brother claims he is NEVER Going to get married, but in fact they are just as committed as any married couple, even without the certificate. lol).

Been together for 8 or 9 years this year. Living together for 4 I think.

Very temperamental and blunt with each other. But a lot of sparks and caring at the same time.


With his Moon-Jupiter-uranus-conjunction squaring his own Sun, and Venus-Mars in aries he really needs a strong, independent woman who can hold her own, has a smart head on her shoulders, not easily being intimidated by his philosophies and monologuing, and yet is sensitive and compassionate. Should be a bit more assertive than he is (he is all talks, and analyzing what is going wrong, but doesn`t really fight; on the other hand he once reanimated a woman that collapsed in front of the line to a counter. How many people manage to do that? Bring someone back from the brink of dead? Even the doctor who arrived then remarked on how lucky that woman was and how rarely that really works, in cases as severe as this one. Can you sense I am an awfully proud big sister? Sorry, but I AM proud of my little brother, for all his flaws, he is an extraordinary human being, and I told EVERYONE he would be when he was being born. AS if I could have known. lol)


Such a nice post, Ceri...I am so moved by how proud you are of your fierce little brother...awww

They seem like a nice, strong pair, these two. That Kite/Cross combo is very powerful. I wish them endless years of love!

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posted June 06, 2014 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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After 15 years of my Moon getting a bit tougher & more discerning and his Moon getting less dogmatic & more empathetic through tribulations, we have gained mutual respect for each other's wisdom.

This is really so nice to hear..
Even though we have trine moons (by 4,5) in Pisces and Scorp (me), both falling in each others 7th while the composite 7th Moon exactly on his Venus .. it's NOT all roses here,.. I just now see the first signs of some progression.. it takes a long time for a scorp moon to TRUST and well, with my Moon in the 3rd I like to speak about emotions in-depth to get that trust you know but hell man.. this pisces moon in the 12th just thinks I can pick up everything from the sky.. but I told him, I'm not endowed with such supernatural talents nor a God.
But I admit.. it WOULD be nice to trust like that

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posted June 07, 2014 02:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for loffra180     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, this is what me and a guy who I have this weird thing with where we end up having these week long trysts with that well...are hot and steamy and nice and make me feel all giddy inside, and while we are together it seems like he feels the same way, but then after a week or so he ends up getting scared and starts to say he isn't worthy of me or that he doesn't deserve me, and he dumps me. His Moon is in Capricorn and in his 6th house, and overlays my 3rd house. My Moon is in Scorpio in my 1st house, and it overlays his 4th house. The aspects are listed below:

My Moon in his chart:
conjunct his SUN (Scorpio) 18 minutes
conjunct his MERCURY (Scorpio) 1 degree
conjunct his VENUS (Scorpio) 2 degrees
sextile his URANUS (Capricorn) 4 degrees
square his N NODE (Aquarius) 41 minutes
square his DESTINN (Aquarius) 48 minutes
square his AC (Leo) 1 degree

His Moon in my chart:
conjunct URANUS (Capricorn) 2 degrees
conjunct NEPTUNE (Capricorn) 1 degree
square KARMA (Aries) 1 degree
opposite PRIAPUS (Cancer) 38 minutes

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posted June 07, 2014 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri,

This helps segue into the next point.

Their lunar compatibility basis is in his JUPITER in early SAG trine her MERC in early ARI.

It's a trine between the rulers. That's valid, and something seen plenty.

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Christianb
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posted September 08, 2015 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Christianb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would love to get any feedback on out of sign conjunction between a Pisces moon and Aries moon. Will they still be the energy of the conjunction ? Will there still be a benefit or will we be on totally different pages? .is it better than a square ??? Thanks in advance

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posted September 08, 2015 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Christianb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would love to get any feedback on out of sign conjunction between a Pisces moon and Aries moon. Will they still be the energy of the conjunction ? Will there still be a benefit or will we be on totally different pages? .is it better than a square ??? Thanks in advance

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