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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 17429 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 07, 2014 02:17 PM
It might sound strange, but just give it a try. Make a composite with a certain significant event in your life (composite of your natal with the event chart) and have a look at the closest midpoints WITHIN that composite (within one degree at most). Well, I long ago noticed that the composite between my natal chart and a certain event usually foretold the story of my experience of that event in very clear terms. I was rather blown away though when I had a peek at the midpoints in there. They really were so literal.
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 9206 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 07, 2014 02:24 PM
This is so interesting, Ceri. What do you mean by "within"? The midpoints of that chart and not the planets (which are midpoints already)?IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 17429 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 07, 2014 02:45 PM
As a first example to check I used the composite with the moment last november, when I was chatting to Mr Sag for a few minutes. It took even myself by surprise, as it seemed uncharacteristic for me, and while the chat itself was as insignificant as can be, it was kinda a pattern-change from my side. Anyway the composite with the moment depicts clearly that I was in a stable well-balanced confident position.
ASC in Libra with Mars in Libra in 1st house One degree Moon-Jupiter-conjunction in Taurus in 7th house (Moon exalted there!) trine Saturn in 11th (quite realistic) trine Venus in Capricorn in 3rd house. Pluto-Node-conjunction in Scorpio in 2nd house Sun in Sag in 2nd house, squared by Saturn (but with 3 or 4 degrees, it seems that what exceeds 3 degrees in orb in that kind of event-composite is not that much "there", more like a subtle foreshadowing). Well the Venus to Jupiter-Moon-trine was already exceeding that orb, too. Moon-Venus at least, Venus was actually applying to Jupiter by 4 degrees. I mostly identified with the Moon-Jupiter-conjunction in Taurus in 7th house, pretty much descriptive of my mood. Jupiter ruled 3rd house (Cancer intercepted in 9th house) - hence communication, I suppose.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 17429 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 07, 2014 02:47 PM
Anyway as for the midpointsMoon= Venus/Saturn (separating) Emotional depression caused by unsatisfied love, inhibitions, an unfortunate disposition or difficult circumstances in all matters of love-expression. A woman living separated from her husband or living a lonely life. - well kinda unfortunate, cause we actually both were leaving and I made the choice in literally the last minute that i wanted to exchange a few words with him. lol
Jupiter= Mercury/Mars Constructive thinking or criticism, sound judgement. Knowing how to sell an idea with enthusiasm. A celebrated orator, a good critic. - well I was "criticising" his work.
Node = Moon/Mercury Sharing thoughts with others, making contacts, - well no comment needed I suppose Pluto= Moon/Mercury The necessity of adjusting one's thinking to new conditions; new perspectives; persuasion or being persuaded. Special events (maybe acts of God) re-orient one's thinking. Tragic realisations.
- well nothing tragic about it,b ut a special event it was, and I remember thinking at one point: If I am not talking to him NOW, I never will.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 17429 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 07, 2014 02:47 PM
Pluto = Mercury/Jupiter A person exercising an influence over the masses, a suggestive orator or a salesperson, dramatic persuasion.- actually that is pretty true. I remember that it had amazed me that evening before, how people seemed to "flock" to me, including many of the actors of the show. Well, except for Mr Sag of course. He preferred taking a position a few metres in my back and holding court, while I could not have looked at him unless I turned around. Which I might have done actually. Mercury = Sun / Node One's attitude to associations, the desire to exchange ideas with other people. Business contacts, news, association with young people.
Mercury = Sun/Pluto Extraordinary mental projection, aspiring intellectual supremacy. Prudence, organisation, aiming at an objective, restless creative activity. An orator or a speaker with suggestive powers. A nerve-crisis. Mercury = Venus/Mars Thinking influenced by love-impulse, the tendency to delve into the problems of sex-relationship. Actors, romance-writers.
- no comment. Sun = Moon / Venus (1°06 but applying fast because of the Moon) Marital love, protective care of the family, gracefulness, appreciation of the arts. Actors or stage performers.
DEfinitely appreciative of the arts. Sun = Venus/Jupiter A warm heart, kindness, good will toward others, a healthy body. Being popular, successful, particularly well-appreciated; advancement in life.
Saturn = Moon/Uranus Striving for independence in order to solve things; the struggle between the traditional and the avant-garde. Striving for independence, the desire to separate oneself from others suddenly, the suffering of sudden damage. Sudden illness. - actually when I had decided I would try to speak to him, I was very quickly manifesting it. Sort of the thought was there and the impulse to act a the same time, which led to maybe a bit of a hasty saying goodbye to some people I had been talking to before. Saturn = Venus/Node Inhibitions, shyness. Awakening from a love-dream into reality. Withdrawal. - for all nice things that was true, too. I mean I just said what I wanted to say and left, and in a way something about that encounter felt more "real" (and realistic) than all others before. But somehow that was okay then. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 17429 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 07, 2014 02:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: This is so interesting, Ceri. What do you mean by "within"? The midpoints of that chart and not the planets (which are midpoints already)?
Yes, exactly, event hough of course the planets are already midpoints, the midpoints between composite-planets ARE so revealing. I mean this stuff I just copied, it reads like a freaky REPORT of how I experienced that moment/ day!!!!
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 17429 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 07, 2014 03:03 PM
From his perspective of course the midpoints involving ASC or MC (or Vertex and even Moon) would be especially pertinent. The others might have been valid all day, could be related to something else, not meeting me. The composite with that moment on its own showed
ASC in Gemini (on my natal Karma ) with Sun in SAgittarius in 6th closely conjunct DESC Sun exactly trine Jupiter in Leo in 2nd (mutual reception and trine of Sun in 7th to Jupiter in 2nd - ego boost? ) Sun also squaring Mars near the IC though. And a lot of not so nice stuff. Moon conjunct Saturn in Libra in 5th squaring Venus in Capricorn in 8th Mercury widely conjunct Pluto in Scorpio in 6th, however Pluto is very closely conjunct Pallas there Pluto conjunct Vertex in 6th, too.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 17429 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 07, 2014 03:18 PM
hsi midpoints:Node = Moon/Mars Energetic co-operation with others. An association of / with women, a women's club. Node = Venus/ASC Being sweet, interested in others.
- he seemed surprisingly attentive, which well, suprised me. lol Moon = Mercury/MC (2 minutes) Feelings expressed through a sense of rightness particularly relating to women.
VEnus = Mercury/MC Thinking about love and relationship and feeling right . Venus = Moon/SAturn Changes of mood, inhibitions in love-expression, lack of self-confidence, the capability to renounce. Resignation, the inclination to stand alone in love or marriage, illegitimate associations, disappointment in love.
Venus= Mercury7Mars Quick decisions in matters of love and affection; the tendency to fall in love quickly. Excited plans about romance; creative inspiration, insight
Venus= Pluto/MC An unusual power of attraction and also unusually strong attachment.
Satrn = Mercury/mars Deep thinking, good powers of concentration. Inhibited powers of decision, a slow or sluggish mode of thinking.
Saturn = Pluto/MC The conspicuous threat of loss; potential scandal; major business reversal; hard, hard work; Neptune = Venus/Uranus (triple conj.) A peculiar disposition in sex-expression, easy impressionability, off-the-norm in sexual experience and fantasy; relationship problems that are not easy to define. Seduction; renouncing love suddenly. Uranus = Mercury/Node Stimulating ideas shared; sudden business contacts.
Uranus = Mars/ASC Testiness, argumentation, temper, picking a fight; inclination to intimidate others; ego-aggrandizement. A sudden incident, injury, accident. (I did not notice that. lol) Sun = Mars/MC The drive to be important; self-promotion perhaps at all cost; the overcoming of resistance or obstacles. ASC = Moon/PoF Physical and emotional well-being.
Mars = Moon/Jupiter A healthy love-relationship; love of enterprise, striving for success. The happy wife, the cheerful mother, the success of a woman.
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 9206 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 09, 2014 06:36 AM
Very interesting, Ceri. I usually do this type of composites with the First Meeting chart or other important event chart, to see what the relationship means for each person (a future thread, perhaps).I did a composite between our most important meeting and our natals and I've found: For me
Sun/Moon mdp - my natal Vertex Venus/Mars mdp - my natal Sun/Mars mdp and his natal NN For him
Sun/Moon mdp - his POF/my Psyche and more widely his natal Venus Venus/Mars mdp - his Pluto/Cupido (my Pluto too) Venus/Pluto mdp - his Neptune/Mars Venus/NN mdp - my NN Interestingly, for me, the composite Venus/Pluto mdp exactly conjuncts Venus/NN mdp and it also conjuncts (exact) his Sun/Moon mdp in his composite with the event.
Where do you find those descriptions for the midpoints, do you have a link or it's your personal interpretation? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 17429 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 10, 2014 12:44 PM
I had posted the links in the thread for supernatural astrology. Amazingly on the concert yesterday there was one moment that stood out (well there were some others, too. lol), and I was curious about the ASC as this is the one travelling the fastest.
At this particular moment the transiting ASC was on 4 Sagittarius (right on my natal Mars ).
It was in one degree orb to these midpoints within our composite: Venus/Node: 0.58 Neptune/Juno 0.36 Moon/Pluto: 0°18 Sun/Uranus: 0°03 Venus/Mars: 0°13 ASC TO MIDPOINT VENUS/NODE Affectionate nature; cordiality, popularity. A love affair.
ASC TO MIDPOINT MOON/PLUTO A violent reaction to the environment, the tendency to cause upsets in one's environment through one's conduct. Many upsets. (I donīt quite agree with this midpoing interpretation though) ASCENDANT TO MIDPOINT SUN/URANUS A person easily excitable. Sudden experiences, new associations.
People who arouse strong feeling, stir up activity or stimulate the environment. A person who increases the energies of those around him/her through provoking the situation. ASC TO MIDPOINT VENUS/MARS Showing love easily, with few conditions.
Personal sexual intercourse. Acquaintance with relatives or intimate friends. In my composite with that particular moment: ASC on 5 SAgittarius with Jupiter in Taurus conjunct SN in 5th house And the ASC was involved in this midpoint: Moon/Jupiter his composite with this moment actualy had me in stitches, I was laughing so hard.
ASC on 00 Aquarius! (conjunct our composite ASC btw).
ASC conjunct Neptune on 29 Cap and Uranus on 4 Aquarius (additionally his event composite had a tight Moon-Pluto-conjunction on 1 and 2 Sag in 10th house, and Sun conjunct Venus in Pisces, roughly oppopsing Mars-Mercury, with various midpoint configurations involved). But anyway, ASC, so his event composite ASC was involved in these midpoints
Mars/Pluto 0.47 Moon/Node 0.23 Pluto/Node 0.43
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 17429 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 10, 2014 12:46 PM
Oh btw I find these interpretations intriguing, though they have to be modified a little for synastry or for the individual cases; however they give some good keywords. I think whoever wrote that down there, did a summary of Noel Tyl`s and Reinhold Ebertin`s keywords. at least they seem very familiar to me. http://www.douban.com/note/60156505/ http://www.douban.com/note/60156659/ http://www.douban.com/note/60156727/ http://www.douban.com/note/60156849/ http://www.douban.com/note/60156954/ http://www.douban.com/note/60156998/ http://www.douban.com/note/60157024/ http://www.douban.com/note/60157124/ http://www.douban.com/note/60157162 IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 9206 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 10, 2014 01:12 PM
I hope you had a great time, Ceri, as it had been predicted....apparently you did Thanks for the links! IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 17429 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 10, 2014 01:27 PM
I had a pretty good time. But unusual. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 9206 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 10, 2014 01:55 PM
What happened??IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 17429 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 10, 2014 02:38 PM
I don`t know. Big storm happened, literlaly. Today I got stuck there cause no train would operate, several freeways were blocked because of the thunderstorms last night. Luckily my parents were so great to come all the way there (3 hours one tour!) to pick me up.As for the concert, it was energetic and energizing, great party-mood I was in, which is rare enough. But sometimes to have nothing left to lose, can be so liberating, as it makes it possible to completely restart again. I donīt want to analyze it too much though.
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 9206 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 10, 2014 03:09 PM
Yes, you are right, let it settle in. Storm outside, storm inside IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 17429 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 10, 2014 05:46 PM
No storm inside, just fun and games. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 17429 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 07, 2015 02:33 AM
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