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Ceridwen
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posted June 07, 2014 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It might sound strange, but just give it a try.

Make a composite with a certain significant event in your life (composite of your natal with the event chart) and have a look at the closest midpoints WITHIN that composite (within one degree at most).


Well, I long ago noticed that the composite between my natal chart and a certain event usually foretold the story of my experience of that event in very clear terms.
I was rather blown away though when I had a peek at the midpoints in there. They really were so literal.

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posted June 07, 2014 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is so interesting, Ceri. What do you mean by "within"? The midpoints of that chart and not the planets (which are midpoints already)?

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posted June 07, 2014 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As a first example to check I used the composite with the moment last november, when I was chatting to Mr Sag for a few minutes.
It took even myself by surprise, as it seemed uncharacteristic for me, and while the chat itself was as insignificant as can be, it was kinda a pattern-change from my side.


Anyway the composite with the moment depicts clearly that I was in a stable well-balanced confident position.

ASC in Libra with Mars in Libra in 1st house

One degree Moon-Jupiter-conjunction in Taurus in 7th house (Moon exalted there!) trine Saturn in 11th (quite realistic) trine Venus in Capricorn in 3rd house.

Pluto-Node-conjunction in Scorpio in 2nd house

Sun in Sag in 2nd house, squared by Saturn (but with 3 or 4 degrees, it seems that what exceeds 3 degrees in orb in that kind of event-composite is not that much "there", more like a subtle foreshadowing).

Well the Venus to Jupiter-Moon-trine was already exceeding that orb, too. Moon-Venus at least, Venus was actually applying to Jupiter by 4 degrees.

I mostly identified with the Moon-Jupiter-conjunction in Taurus in 7th house, pretty much descriptive of my mood.
Jupiter ruled 3rd house (Cancer intercepted in 9th house) - hence communication, I suppose.


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posted June 07, 2014 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyway as for the midpoints

Moon= Venus/Saturn (separating)
Emotional depression caused by unsatisfied love, inhibitions, an unfortunate disposition or difficult circumstances in all matters of
love-expression. A woman living separated from her husband or living a lonely life.


- well kinda unfortunate, cause we actually both were leaving and I made the choice in literally the last minute that i wanted to exchange a few words with him. lol

Jupiter= Mercury/Mars
Constructive thinking or criticism, sound judgement. Knowing how to
sell an idea with enthusiasm. A celebrated orator, a good critic.


- well I was "criticising" his work.

Node = Moon/Mercury
Sharing thoughts with others, making contacts,

- well no comment needed I suppose


Pluto= Moon/Mercury
The necessity of adjusting one's thinking to new conditions; new
perspectives; persuasion or being persuaded. Special events (maybe
acts of God) re-orient one's thinking. Tragic realisations.

- well nothing tragic about it,b ut a special event it was, and I remember thinking at one point: If I am not talking to him NOW, I never will.


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posted June 07, 2014 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto = Mercury/Jupiter
A person exercising an influence over the masses, a suggestive orator
or a salesperson, dramatic persuasion.

- actually that is pretty true. I remember that it had amazed me that evening before, how people seemed to "flock" to me, including many of the actors of the show. Well, except for Mr Sag of course. He preferred taking a position a few metres in my back and holding court, while I could not have looked at him unless I turned around. Which I might have done actually.


Mercury = Sun / Node
One's attitude to associations, the desire to exchange ideas with
other people. Business contacts, news, association with young people.

Mercury = Sun/Pluto
Extraordinary mental projection, aspiring intellectual supremacy.
Prudence, organisation, aiming at an objective, restless creative
activity. An orator or a speaker with suggestive powers. A
nerve-crisis.


Mercury = Venus/Mars
Thinking influenced by love-impulse, the tendency to delve into the
problems of sex-relationship. Actors, romance-writers.

- no comment.


Sun = Moon / Venus (1°06 but applying fast because of the Moon)
Marital love, protective care of the family, gracefulness,
appreciation of the arts. Actors or stage performers.

DEfinitely appreciative of the arts.


Sun = Venus/Jupiter
A warm heart, kindness, good will toward others, a healthy body.
Being popular, successful, particularly well-appreciated; advancement in
life.

Saturn = Moon/Uranus
Striving for independence in order to solve things; the struggle
between the traditional and the avant-garde. Striving for independence, the
desire to separate oneself from others suddenly, the suffering of
sudden damage. Sudden illness.

- actually when I had decided I would try to speak to him, I was very quickly manifesting it. Sort of the thought was there and the impulse to act a the same time, which led to maybe a bit of a hasty saying goodbye to some people I had been talking to before.

Saturn = Venus/Node
Inhibitions, shyness. Awakening from a love-dream into reality.
Withdrawal.

- for all nice things that was true, too. I mean I just said what I wanted to say and left, and in a way something about that encounter felt more "real" (and realistic) than all others before.
But somehow that was okay then.

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posted June 07, 2014 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
This is so interesting, Ceri. What do you mean by "within"? The midpoints of that chart and not the planets (which are midpoints already)?


Yes, exactly, event hough of course the planets are already midpoints, the midpoints between composite-planets ARE so revealing. I mean this stuff I just copied, it reads like a freaky REPORT of how I experienced that moment/ day!!!!

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posted June 07, 2014 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From his perspective of course the midpoints involving ASC or MC (or Vertex and even Moon) would be especially pertinent. The others might have been valid all day, could be related to something else, not meeting me.


The composite with that moment on its own showed

ASC in Gemini (on my natal Karma ) with Sun in SAgittarius in 6th closely conjunct DESC

Sun exactly trine Jupiter in Leo in 2nd (mutual reception and trine of Sun in 7th to Jupiter in 2nd - ego boost? )

Sun also squaring Mars near the IC though.

And a lot of not so nice stuff.

Moon conjunct Saturn in Libra in 5th squaring Venus in Capricorn in 8th

Mercury widely conjunct Pluto in Scorpio in 6th, however Pluto is very closely conjunct Pallas there


Pluto conjunct Vertex in 6th, too.

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posted June 07, 2014 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hsi midpoints:

Node = Moon/Mars
Energetic co-operation with others. An association of / with women, a
women's club.


Node = Venus/ASC
Being sweet, interested in others.

- he seemed surprisingly attentive, which well, suprised me. lol


Moon = Mercury/MC (2 minutes)
Feelings expressed through a sense of rightness particularly relating
to women.

VEnus = Mercury/MC
Thinking about love and relationship and feeling right .


Venus = Moon/SAturn
Changes of mood, inhibitions in love-expression, lack of self-confidence,
the capability to renounce. Resignation, the inclination to stand
alone in love or marriage, illegitimate associations, disappointment
in love.


Venus= Mercury7Mars
Quick decisions in matters of love and affection; the tendency to fall
in love quickly. Excited plans about romance; creative inspiration,
insight


Venus= Pluto/MC
An unusual power of attraction and also unusually strong attachment.


Satrn = Mercury/mars
Deep thinking, good powers of concentration. Inhibited powers of
decision, a slow or sluggish mode of thinking.

Saturn = Pluto/MC
The conspicuous threat of loss; potential scandal; major business
reversal; hard, hard work;

Neptune = Venus/Uranus (triple conj.)
A peculiar disposition in sex-expression, easy impressionability,
off-the-norm in sexual experience and fantasy; relationship problems
that are not easy to define. Seduction; renouncing love suddenly.


Uranus = Mercury/Node
Stimulating ideas shared; sudden business contacts.

Uranus = Mars/ASC
Testiness, argumentation, temper, picking a fight; inclination to
intimidate others; ego-aggrandizement. A sudden incident, injury,
accident.
(I did not notice that. lol)

Sun = Mars/MC
The drive to be important; self-promotion perhaps at all cost; the
overcoming of resistance or obstacles.


ASC = Moon/PoF
Physical and emotional well-being.

Mars = Moon/Jupiter
A healthy love-relationship; love of enterprise, striving for success.
The happy wife, the cheerful mother, the success of a woman.

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posted June 09, 2014 06:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting, Ceri. I usually do this type of composites with the First Meeting chart or other important event chart, to see what the relationship means for each person (a future thread, perhaps).

I did a composite between our most important meeting and our natals and I've found:


For me

Sun/Moon mdp - my natal Vertex
Venus/Mars mdp - my natal Sun/Mars mdp and his natal NN


For him

Sun/Moon mdp - his POF/my Psyche and more widely his natal Venus
Venus/Mars mdp - his Pluto/Cupido (my Pluto too)
Venus/Pluto mdp - his Neptune/Mars
Venus/NN mdp - my NN


Interestingly, for me, the composite Venus/Pluto mdp exactly conjuncts Venus/NN mdp and it also conjuncts (exact) his Sun/Moon mdp in his composite with the event.

Where do you find those descriptions for the midpoints, do you have a link or it's your personal interpretation?

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posted June 10, 2014 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had posted the links in the thread for supernatural astrology.


Amazingly on the concert yesterday there was one moment that stood out (well there were some others, too. lol), and I was curious about the ASC as this is the one travelling the fastest.


At this particular moment the transiting ASC was on 4 Sagittarius (right on my natal Mars ).

It was in one degree orb to these midpoints within our composite:

Venus/Node: 0.58
Neptune/Juno 0.36
Moon/Pluto: 0°18

Sun/Uranus: 0°03

Venus/Mars: 0°13


ASC TO MIDPOINT VENUS/NODE
Affectionate nature; cordiality, popularity. A love affair.

ASC TO MIDPOINT MOON/PLUTO
A violent reaction to the environment, the tendency to cause upsets in
one's environment through one's conduct. Many upsets.
(I donīt quite agree with this midpoing interpretation though)


ASCENDANT TO MIDPOINT SUN/URANUS
A person easily excitable. Sudden experiences, new associations.

People who arouse strong feeling, stir up activity or stimulate the environment. A person who increases the energies of those around him/her through provoking the situation.


ASC TO MIDPOINT VENUS/MARS
Showing love easily, with few conditions.

Personal sexual intercourse. Acquaintance with relatives or intimate friends.

In my composite with that particular moment:

ASC on 5 SAgittarius with Jupiter in Taurus conjunct SN in 5th house

And the ASC was involved in this midpoint:
Moon/Jupiter


his composite with this moment actualy had me in stitches, I was laughing so hard.


ASC on 00 Aquarius! (conjunct our composite ASC btw).

ASC conjunct Neptune on 29 Cap and Uranus on 4 Aquarius

(additionally his event composite had a tight Moon-Pluto-conjunction on 1 and 2 Sag in 10th house, and Sun conjunct Venus in Pisces, roughly oppopsing Mars-Mercury, with various midpoint configurations involved).


But anyway, ASC, so his event composite ASC was involved in these midpoints


Mars/Pluto 0.47
Moon/Node 0.23
Pluto/Node 0.43

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posted June 10, 2014 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh btw I find these interpretations intriguing, though they have to be modified a little for synastry or for the individual cases; however they give some good keywords. I think whoever wrote that down there, did a summary of Noel Tyl`s and Reinhold Ebertin`s keywords. at least they seem very familiar to me. http://www.douban.com/note/60156505/ http://www.douban.com/note/60156659/ http://www.douban.com/note/60156727/ http://www.douban.com/note/60156849/ http://www.douban.com/note/60156954/ http://www.douban.com/note/60156998/ http://www.douban.com/note/60157024/ http://www.douban.com/note/60157124/ http://www.douban.com/note/60157162

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posted June 10, 2014 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope you had a great time, Ceri, as it had been predicted....apparently you did Thanks for the links!

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posted June 10, 2014 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had a pretty good time. But unusual.

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posted June 10, 2014 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What happened??

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posted June 10, 2014 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don`t know. Big storm happened, literlaly. Today I got stuck there cause no train would operate, several freeways were blocked because of the thunderstorms last night. Luckily my parents were so great to come all the way there (3 hours one tour!) to pick me up.

As for the concert, it was energetic and energizing, great party-mood I was in, which is rare enough. But sometimes to have nothing left to lose, can be so liberating, as it makes it possible to completely restart again.

I donīt want to analyze it too much though.


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posted June 10, 2014 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, you are right, let it settle in. Storm outside, storm inside

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posted June 10, 2014 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No storm inside, just fun and games.

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posted January 07, 2015 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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