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Topic: Predictive Love Charts
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LeeLoo2014
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From: Venus cornering Neptune
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posted June 13, 2014 08:16 AM
  
There are many ways to launch some predictions on how a relationship might evolve (the regular charts - synastry/composite -, progressions, Draco charts, Persona charts etc.)I'm counting on you to explore all those together. What I want to start with is the comparison between a major couple event - such as the First Meeting - and the natals, to estimate the impact the said event has on each person. In the synastry between the event and the person we should see how the event impacts the person: importance, areas of life impacted etc. House overlays (event falling in natal houses) would be revealing. Conjunctions and planets on major midpoints will be revealing. And of course, all the other important aspects. The composite between the event and the natal chart will show what kind of relationship is to be expected for the natal person as a result of the event. First...the synastry. In the name of science...this is the synastry between my parents wedding (I don't know their FM chart, still digging lol - personally I think the First Meeting chart is very special, but in this case I can't use it) and their natals. They are both inside. I will analyze those later.
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Ceridwen
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posted June 13, 2014 08:24 AM
Great Idea.  I haven`t got much time right now, as I am preparing to leave for tonight`s concert. How about you want to prognosticate how I am going to feel about it tonight?  [/URL]
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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 13, 2014 08:37 AM
There's so much to be said about this chart, Ceri...it looks wonderful. The almost exact Sun/Sun, the Moon on your Sun/Mercury - Venus mdp, involved in a DW -sweet, romantic heart felt things. Many oppositions - you'll get that "oppositions" feeling: excitement, attraction, something big etc. All those asteroids well placed. Psyche on Psyche - that's major. Mars - the man - on your Pluto stell. - you will both feel it on a physical level. Vertex on Vertex and Uranus on NN - I wonder if there is not a chance for you to interact more closely, it should be that. Plus, there are two major outer planets squares, with Pluto/Eros and Neptune - I see outer squares to natal when there is a major turning point period in one's life. One is usually enough, but two...  Have fun and be happy tonight! And safe journey!
EDIT: In fact, for all of us born that year, this year is major.
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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 13, 2014 08:47 AM
I like how Valentine opens your 8th house...wow...like a key
And now I've noticed the CCross falls on your vertex axis, approaching it.
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Orange
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posted June 13, 2014 09:02 AM
ooooh, Ceri has a date with her Chosen one tonight. awww..
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Orange
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posted June 13, 2014 09:04 AM
LoLo,what about if the First Meeting was just a casual one and nobody thought it would have progressed into somethign special...would a syanstry between natals and FMChart still count? IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted June 13, 2014 09:23 AM
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Originally posted by Orange:
LoLo,what about if the First Meeting was just a casual one and nobody thought it would have progressed into somethign special...would a syanstry between natals and FMChart still count?
of course, there will be something there...in the synastry and the composites! Show them off!  IP: Logged |
Tulipe
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posted June 13, 2014 09:32 AM
We should check the 3 Fates too, since it's predictive chart.
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Tulipe
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posted June 13, 2014 09:33 AM
Lol, I experimented with the natal and FMC composite but don't know how to read that.------------------
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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 13, 2014 09:33 AM
In Ceri's chart:-we see the event sun falling into the natal's 7th house: the natal believes he/she might have met her partner or someone who looks a lot like an ideal partner for her. Today Sun conjuncts Alma, a good omen for soulmate meetings. Her Sun opposing the event sun is right on Moon/Karma mdp - a karmic meeting for women or with an emotional impact - the event Moon falls in the 1 st house for the natal - a strong emotional impact and the 1st is an attraction house for her. Karma opposes Karma on the same axis, an alignment occurs for a fated meeting. -Venus, Cupido, Aphrodite all fall in the natal 5th - no description necessary here - there is also an "opening" of the 8th house for the natal, with happy Jupiter there, an emotional Jupiter and the stellium with vertex and Valentine. Many happy meetings for lovers these days, with this stellium. - Mars - and because we look at a woman's chart, we consider the masculine planets, especially Mars as the impact of the man on her - falls right on her Aphrodite, waking her up - she will feel beautiful in her interaction with him, plus the whole conjunction is felt on a strong instinctive, physical level, All is happenning near POF.
- one of the clues for the purpose of the event, the NN, falls on her Uranus/Union, activating it.
- there are some Chiron contacts too, enhancing importance - of course, the angle overlay is self-explanatory
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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 13, 2014 09:35 AM
The conjunctions and the planets on midpoints tell the story of the impact on the natal, where and how it manifests.IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted June 13, 2014 09:36 AM
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Originally posted by Tulipe:
We should check the 3 Fates too, since it's predictive chart.
Of course, that would be another prediction tool, separately, or we can use the Fates in these comparisons to see how they play out, I'll try that with my parents's charts too. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted June 13, 2014 09:37 AM
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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Lol, I experimented with the natal and FMC composite but don't know how to read that.
I'm sure you know , but post them and we can discuss them, exchange ideas  IP: Logged |
Tulipe
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posted June 13, 2014 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I'm sure you know , but post them and we can discuss them, exchange ideas
What I mean is that I draw those charts before but didn't know they mean something . Can you make an example interpretation with the composite of natal and event chart? ------------------
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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 13, 2014 09:57 AM
For mother:the event sun falls in her secondary love house (and secondary 8th by translation with Mercury), right near IC, Venus conjuncts IC - a feeling of "coming home" in love angles conjunct (I see this in many of these comparisons with meetings turning into relationships) her Jupiter is aligned with the nodal axis that day, and event Mercury falls on her own node - this event is a lucky one for her, plus there is some speedy evolution to follow - the Moon/Saturn conjunctions that day - a good one for long-term marriages - falls in her 5th and Vesta right on her chart co-ruler - an event leading to love commitment, trining the man and her Cupido, on her NN - so sweet! event MC on her Juno - no wonder is a wedding chart the Juno stellium of the event falling in her secondary 1st, the house of her Sun, opposes Uranus vesta conjunction What I noticed in both their charts - Neptune conjuncts their Venus/Mars conjunction that day, falling exactly on father's Mars - a dream of love union comes true, especially for him - the conjunction falls in her 10th and in his 2nd.
The conjunctions standing out in this chart:
Cupido Mars on ASC
Alma Pholus on ASC
DSC conjunct ASC of course
Karma conjunct Karma - major one
Amor/Lust on Mars/Jupiter mdp
Juno conjunct MC
Sun/Venus/Union conjunct IC
Uranus Vesta and opp her Sun
POF in the 7th house, one Vertex and Saturn
Psyche Valentine
Psyche MC
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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 13, 2014 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by Tulipe:
What I mean is that I draw those charts before but didn't know they mean something . Can you make an example interpretation with the composite of natal and event chart?
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Selene
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posted June 13, 2014 11:28 AM
I took our first meeting chart and compared it to both of our natals + our composite. So this is what charts look like when you synchronically meet someone you were married in your past life and known forever. FM
 What it means for me:  FM Moon conjunct my Vertex 1
FM Mercury conjunct my Lilith EXACT
FM Mercury conjunct my IC 1
FM Jupiter conjunct my MC 2
FM Uranus square my Uranus 1
FM Vertex conjunct my IC 2
FM IC conjunct my Chiron EXACT What it meant for him:  FM Mercury conjunct his SN EXACT
FM Jupiter conjunct his NN EXACT !!!
FM Uranus conjunct his Sun 1
FM Uranus conjunct his MC 1
FM NN conjunct his Mars 2
FM Lilith conjunct his NN
FM Vertex conjunct his SN !!!
What it meant for us:
 FM Sun conjunct composite Uranus 1
FM Moon conjunct composite DSC EXACT !!
FM Saturn conjunct composite Moon 2
FM Saturn conjunct composite Pluto 1
FM Saturn conjunct composite IC 1
FM Uranus conjunct composite NN 2
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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 13, 2014 11:53 AM
Father:event Sun falls directly in his 7th, together with Venus and Union, on his Uranus - he is an Aqua and Uranus rules his IC - one can feel the emotion of the event in both charts, with the IC conjunctions - plus the feeling of "coming home" "buidling a home" "starting a family" event Moon conjunct Saturn falls in his 8th house - he is a Scorpio Moon and ASC, how fit is that! Pallas on his ASC exact - the woman is found! Psyche unites his NN with his Cupido Vertex axis conjuncts his own Vertex axis! event Juno stellium on his Valentine event NN unifies his Venus with his Psyche - event leads to a soulfoul love - found! event DSC/Alma/Karma falls on his Juno/Alma midpoint, unifies Juno Alma Juno Alma conjunct, Juno Cupido and Karma Alma Jupiter conjuncts his IC - a happy, lucky union/house Pholus conjuncts his own Jupiter event MC conjunct his natal Amor exact, in his 5th - so this is his Amor - plus Amor conjunct Amor there, and Amor conjunct Saturn exact - a long one event ASC triggers his natal Pluto - most likely the union will lead to some transformations for him IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted June 13, 2014 11:54 AM
Selene, what is the last chart? A multi-composite between you two and the meeting?IP: Logged |
Selene
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posted June 13, 2014 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Selene, what is the last chart? A multi-composite between you two and the meeting?
No, the lastone is our regular composite! IP: Logged |
Orange
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posted June 13, 2014 12:03 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
of course, there will be something there...in the synastry and the composites! Show them off!
okay, the apple of my eyes it was my first day at work....
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Lunae
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posted June 13, 2014 12:14 PM
FMC synastry with my chart:  I liked the outcome of this first meeting, though I'm not really sure with the other party. I'm really curious about Moon conj SN. I've read somewhere that when the moon passes over the SN, it could be a dangerous time. Though I came home very late, no untoward incident happened. His birth time is unknown so houses are disregarded:  He may have been overwhelmed, I think? I mean all those asteroids conj his asteroids, Uranus trining his Leo stellium. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted June 13, 2014 12:23 PM
More than very nice chart, Sunshine(What's with you and Nessus?? always sticking it into my eyes) Moon Sn falling in his 1st - fated encounters with women from the past with Moon/Sn and this one falling in his 1st where he already has his Moon
IC, heart of the matter, on his own Moon/Lilith Moon receives an IC arrow pam pam
MC of the matter (the future, the best accomplish.) - his Juno Za Moon is completed by Saturn and Neptune that day, with a bit of Chiron too
POF opens his 3rd house
Psyche opens his 5th house - not a fleeting love, IMO
I think everything here points to you already knowing each other in previous lives...so far
Vertex on SN - major
Mars on Pluto - you know what this means Mars falling in his 5th - there should be something erotic between you at some point Saturn on vertex - more karma Juno on NN/DSC - possible dream wife (major Juno contacts on both sides) and, of course, the Sun and Venus returns - with Uranus right on NN - now I remember your Yod IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted June 13, 2014 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by Selene:
No, the lastone is our regular composite!
Interesting. I'd be curious to see a composite between each of you and the meeting. IP: Logged |
Selene
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posted June 13, 2014 12:30 PM
I did a composite between the FM and his chart... wow! Look at that. Sun conjunct Mercury conjunct Moon conjunct Uranus... In 8th-7th house. 
Composite between the FM and me:
 Interesting. He has Sun conjunct Moon in that composite between him and the FM, and i have Sun opposite Moon. I like how this composite accentuates Sun in 4th house, because he's like family to me. Someone from a very distant past. IP: Logged |
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