posted June 21, 2014 05:26 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
e-mail me here:
I have a feeling your restless mind isn't satisfied with their answers
If you wish to discuss this more with me than u can email me.. only if its okay with you.

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Ha.. they closed the thread. As expected. no one will understand and that is pretty sad. i saved your email, im *e-mail posting edited* I'll send you an email when I have time) I have exams starting right on monday. Thank you.!!!

I want to answer to the last poster there though.

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Hey, don't get upset, Luna, everyone here wants your best interest, you know that

So, I get he doesn't know you're 14, although his letters suggest otherwise. I don't know what to think about this, Luna, you've made him think you're a woman...it means when he finds out your real age, he will be very upset and embarassed. He will be hurt by you gratuitously. I have to state again, adult males are not sexually and romantically attracted to 14 year old girls. Only predator pedophiles/ephebofiles are, and they are a small percentage of the human population. For normal men, it would be like being attracted to your own daughter. What normal adult males want for teenagers is the same they want for their daughters: to experience the things appropriate for their age with their peers, live their teenage years and youth, live a full life and all life stages. Only psychopatic individuals want others things with a teenager.

Also, love letters love words love talk are not a proof of love and a proof of honesty, you know that dear.

You say he doesn't know your age and this is not the case, but I want to post some things here about this, I hope you don't mind.

The internet is a heaven for these people having these problems (pedo/ephebo): they can create several fake identities, anywhere anyhow and they have the time and the means to create a connection through words remaining hidden all this time.

Their classic MO is: the golden rule: tell the girl what she wants to hear. They are familiar with teenage psychology in the age range that interests them (they usually have a specific age range interest). They know teenagers have specific problems with self-identity, growing up etc we all experienced when we were teenagers, know that they feel awkward, sometimes isolated. They push these buttons. Create the impression to the teenager she is someone important, special, mature for her age; initially, emphasize spiritual/emotional things with her; they know teenage interests: music, films etc and are playful, adapt to teenage interests in their convos; they are very supportive and loving; tell she is an important part of his life, he never felt like this, that he never had such a deep intimate connection; that other/grown up women never made him feel this way; that he has found true love etc. The truth is that the teenager is a pure sexual object for these people, they only experience eroticism this way, so it's a survival thing for them; real feelings are not involved. Gradually, he tells his age (most of the times, he hides it in the beginning), pushes to some sort of sexual exchanges (sexual talk, fantasies, sends photos of his body parts, or other intimate photos, requests the same - a preparation stage for him). Then he pushes for a real life meeting, gradually, when he feels the timing is right. If he realizes the real life meeting cannot take place (which is his ultimate goal), backs off, gently or not. Keeps his profile on the online media where he first contacted and he remains active because he continues his hunt. You are not the first, will not going to be last (talking in general, not about you, Luna). This is a lifetime "occupation", a compulsion.

Every teenage girl who is being approached by an adult man should have this due dilligence and check these things, because the truth is, generally, adult men don't hang out with teenage girls:

- check the photos he sends online (google them) to see if they are not random online photos or if they lead to something, a profile, Facebook etc.

- check his address, see who lives there (there are ways to do this through phone companies)

- check his name, see where it leads you, if he gives a name - if the name is real, it should appear SOMEWHERE online - if there are no tracks of the name, it doesn't exist

- check phone numbers and work places and email; addresses and every data he gives you

- notify someone close to you, an adult, about this connection with a 40s man and ask advice

This is preventive in all such cases, it's something you owe to yourself and the potential victims if this is the case. But mostly to yourself, dear Luna, even if people close to you maybe haven't cherished you the way they should have it doesn't mean you shouldn't cherish yourself, you're a precious, smart and sensitive girl with a wonderful life ahead of you.

Multa dragoste!

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He doesn't know my age. He doesn't know my age. He doesn't know my age. He doesn't know my age. He doesn't know my age. He doesn't know my age. He doesn't know my age. He doesn't know my age. He doesn't know my age. !!
I understand all of this, but it wasn't the case here.
I'd give you all of his info, name and his account which is all for his viking/crafting hobby but i don't want to ruin him even more than i have already did.
This wasn't any internet prey thing... this just makes me plain sad. I know his friends. I know he hasn't been lying about anything.
And here is the problem, he was so open to me and truthful, that when I didn't even show him my identity, we ended it for GOOD
it was all just a dream which will haunt him for the rest of his life... i know it will. lessons.
when i'll be old enough or when it will be possible... i'll still search for him just for that special minute spent hugging and holding hands
he had a thing with holding hands.. small things in daily life
i'm not going to reconnect or take this "relationship" serious ever again though. god no. i just hurt him so much that i think we both deserve a little bit of closeness after all this surreal dream BS he will be stuck in forever
This happened for a reason
Sending good vibes to you too, thank you lovely

posted June 21, 2014 05:35 PM            

I have no issue with discussing the ASTROLOGY here. But I don't believe we can all agree on what was here, and the majority of the adults present (myself included) are inclined to think that, in ANY case, a man who will have a long distance relationship without knowing the individual's identity is in it SOLELY for that reason. The fantasy. Period.

The truth is that the truth CAN'T be known.

We CAN however, look at the astrology involved, as it's a very interesting case, and the data is said to be accurate.

Randall, what do you think? There are a few astrologers here who would like to help her understand the astrology that was involved here. Fortunately, there has been no crime committed, and no one is legally liable.

posted June 21, 2014 05:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Moon is Lunatic:
I think it's weird how much you know about him, yet he doesn't know almost anything (?) about you.
He trusted you way too much, or something. I mean who gives their address to a person who you even haven't seen a picture of.

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posted June 21, 2014 05:47 PM            

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Originally posted by ilunatique:
Let's stop this.. You saw what happened, though im at peace with it
I know his door number.. His name links to the same adress.. He works at a medical company so all his info AND pic was up
He was blinded by the love happening here, That was IT.

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posted June 21, 2014 05:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
You are being so naive it's not even funny. I really hope you learn from this one day. Protect your heart don't sell it to anyone who sweet talks you.

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posted June 21, 2014 06:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
You are being so naive it's not even funny. I really hope you learn from this one day. Protect your heart don't give it to anyone who sweet talks you.

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posted June 21, 2014 06:47 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
Sent u a email ilunatique

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posted June 21, 2014 07:20 PM            

She says over and over that he doesn't know her age but he does. He states in one of the letters "I feel like a lovesick 14 year old girl with emo angst (No offense girls. At least now I know how YOU feel)."

If she didn't tell him her age, he figured it out by her voice or looked her up with her cell phone at some point and came accross information on her with it.

In the letter he also says:

"Why do I always go for "hard mode" instead of "easy" or "normal."

I think she knows and she is protecting him or she doesn't realize that he knows her age.

IDK KARKA if you too have "father hunger" so you have the need to assure her bc doing so reaffirms your beliefs about a similar experience you had yourself but you are making this worst if you feed her fantasy further bc she wont confront her "father hunger" wound as long as she holds on to this fantasy.

posted June 21, 2014 07:49 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I'm fine with anyone discussing the astrology, and looking at, say, the astrology of why he's brought to bear this particular issue.

I DO hope that no one is encouraging the escapism.

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posted June 21, 2014 07:53 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
Nope I don't encourage escapism. I have problems with it and it horrible and wouldn't wish it on anyone.

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posted June 21, 2014 08:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
You have Karka's now. Don't post your e-mail address here.

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