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Topic: Romantic love composite and its manifestation depending on the gender
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 7751 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 01, 2014 12:52 PM
Are there things in a composite chart that tend to concern the female or the male half more? For example, are there planets that could manifest themselves more through a woman than a man and vice versa?------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 3810 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 01, 2014 01:36 PM
Yes, traditionally, at some point, you look at the masculine planets Mars and Sun to evaluate the man's position in the relationship and you look at the feminine planets Moon and Venus for the woman.Personally, I've found the Moon to give important clues about the woman's input, and Mars showing the man's moves. But the most telling aspects, I think, are the overlays with the natals. For example my composite Moon is at 0 Libra, so is my natal Mars. This tells me my Mars has a major impact on the emotional, lunar part of the relationship, but it is also a symbol for what I was saying above (Moon as the woman).
Composite Venus conjuncts his natal Moon. So, although these are both feminine planets, this should tell us this part (emotional, love etc.) is the man's input, how he feels the relationship and what is important for him in this relationship.
The overlays are also important, I guess.
In this case, one can say he is Venus in this chart, I'm the Moon.
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IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 3015 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 01, 2014 03:36 PM
Honestly, Lee? I think it's a toss-up. It seems logical to go that way, but in my experience, it's more what links to a particular point.If the man's SUN is on the cMOON, then he can easily feel tightly bound to the 'emotions' of the relationship. Conversely, if the cSUN is on the man's MOON, the state / core / existence of the relationship has a direct impact upon his emotions. It's extremely important. For me, this is happening with my Twin; my nMOON is conjunct the cSUN by 1º; his nMOON is on the cMERC by 3º. Wide -- definitely. The cSUN is on his nMOON by 9º -- which is crazy wide, but it affects us both. I feel deeply emotionally unsettled when the basic state of the relationship is disharmonious. HE, on the other hand, is deeply affected by the state of our communication. When IT's bad, he 'goes crazy', as he put it. cVALENTINE is on both of our nMOONs. It's actually the Midpoint -- which is why it's conjunct the cMOON by 1º. Interestingly enough, cVALENTINE is conjunct cMERC by 1º, so I think we're both affected emotionally (as it's on our nMOONs) by the state of our communication. We hurt when we're being cruel to each other. And I don't mean just 'hurt' -- it's a visceral feeling. Perhaps because of the cSUN conjunct cMOON on the cASC? I'm not sure. But in our case, it's all interconnected; what affects him, affects me, and vice versa. So I just don't think it's that cut-and-dried. I'm not sure if he's expressing the cMARS; it's conjunct the cBML by 3º. I'm not saying there's NO way he isn't -- he might be. It doesn't really hit any of his points, though, whereas the stellium affects us both. Something I find notable is how it all conjuncts his nSATURN-KARMA -- which is conjunct my nMOON. Can't quite figure that one out yet -- but it would explain how our relationship has certainly triggered his deepest fears and insecurities -- of abandonment, his problems with trust, and so on. Yet, SATURN is so binding. Maybe that's why we're still here. I'll have to look at the composite with my Guardian to test a very different type of composite -- one that doesn't have a huge stellium 'confusing' things by having interconnexions everywhere. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 3810 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 01, 2014 03:45 PM
I agree, Indigo, it's not cut-and-dry, the question itself implies some sort of gender differentiation, looking at the composite from a certain point of view: the players.Of course, Venus in a composite chart is ultimately the love between them, and the Moon their emotional life together, so it's a synergy. But one can say the person who's natal planets are on the composite planets is more affected or impacts in return the relationship. It may be dependent on the planetary energy as well, and how their planets are in their natal chart: for instance Mars is a more proactive energy, either coming from the man or the woman, and looking in their charts, we can see how proactive it is and what is the input that Mars brings into the relationship. So in order to establish how the man and the woman feel in the relationship and what their input is, this is our most telling clue, IMO: how their natals are connected to the composite planets. IP: Logged |
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 1234 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted July 01, 2014 04:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: I agree, Indigo, it's not cut-and-dry, the question itself implies some sort of gender differentiation, looking at the composite from a certain point of view: the players.Of course, Venus in a composite chart is ultimately the love between them, and the Moon their emotional life together, so it's a synergy. But one can say the person who's natal planets are on the composite planets is more affected or impacts in return the relationship. It may be dependent on the planetary energy as well, and how their planets are in their natal chart: for instance Mars is a more proactive energy, either coming from the man or the woman, and looking in their charts, we can see how proactive it is and what is the input that Mars brings into the relationship. So in order to establish how the man and the woman feel in the relationship and what their input is, this is our most telling clue, IMO: how their natals are connected to the composite planets.
Do composite asteroids have gender role also? Like Eros, Psyche, Juno, especially when conjunct natal planets? ------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 3015 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 01, 2014 06:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by Tulipe: Do composite asteroids have gender role also? Like Eros, Psyche, Juno, especially when conjunct natal planets?
Good question, Tulipe. IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 3015 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 01, 2014 06:21 PM
Not that I had this 'question', per se, but I think, after that explanation, I now understand why the highly concentrated composites often contain Twin Flame markers; it's the interconnectedness. I had a theory that it was essential the cMOON be heavily involved in the stellium -- and now I think this is making sense as to why. The cMOON, being the Midpoint of the two nMOONs, is the emotional gauge of the relationship: the combined emotional energy. Powerful stuff there. I think this is why I have to see the cMOON in that stellium; when I see it further away than a sextile, I'm really concerned. If it's an opposition -- and tight? I think there's a real emphasis on the two pulling together to balance the emotional conflict, likely stemming from karma. I tend to see that often in Soulmate composites. IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 3015 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 01, 2014 06:45 PM
So, EROS and PSYCHE.cEROS is conjunct his nSUN by 2º; cNEPTUNE by 3º. (cEROS is also parallel his nSUN; so it's emphasised.) cPSYCHE is very loosely opposite my nSUN. 4º. Really, more like my nPLUTO-BML, which is 2º. It's conjunct my nPRIAPUS, by 3º. Sextile my nPSYCHE, 3º. It's sextile his nPSYCHE, too, also by 3º. Huh. I JUST noticed that. His nMARS, too. So, what do you think? I guess we could argue that he's 'got' cEROS and I've 'got' cPSYCHE -- though, again, seems too simplified. cEROS conjunct AND parallel nSUN, though? Seems in that case, it'd have a strong connexion to his natal. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 3810 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 02, 2014 06:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by IndigoDirae: So, EROS and PSYCHE.cEROS is conjunct his nSUN by 2º; cNEPTUNE by 3º. (cEROS is also parallel his nSUN; so it's emphasised.) cPSYCHE is very loosely opposite my nSUN. 4º. Really, more like my nPLUTO-BML, which is 2º. It's conjunct my nPRIAPUS, by 3º. Sextile my nPSYCHE, 3º. It's sextile his nPSYCHE, too, also by 3º. Huh. I JUST noticed that. His nMARS, too. So, what do you think? I guess we could argue that he's 'got' cEROS and I've 'got' cPSYCHE -- though, again, seems too simplified. cEROS conjunct AND parallel nSUN, though? Seems in that case, it'd have a strong connexion to his natal.
Nice Yin/Yang interplay. IP: Logged | |