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Topic: Neptune-squares in SYNASTRY
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Alvarella777 Knowflake Posts: 275 From: Europe Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 23, 2009 09:07 PM
Huh, I do believe that this is a huge topic ... (Having Neptune-square-Venus in my very own natal chart, I am forced to deal with "Neptunian forces" again and again in my love life - much delusion, sooner or later.)Anyway: In SYNASTRY - are there ANY positive experiences you have made (personally), when the other person's Neptune was squaring one of your personal planets - or vice versa? Who'd run the higher risk of being "misled"? The Neptune- or the other person? Currently, I am especially interested in A's Neptune squaring B's Venus.
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Virgovenusleo Knowflake Posts: 251 From: unknown Registered: May 2009
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posted May 23, 2009 09:29 PM
Nope not really.. Most neptune things I had with someone ended badly.,,There was always something there.. something like a secret or somethingIP: Logged |
Alvarella777 Knowflake Posts: 275 From: Europe Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 23, 2009 09:54 PM
Well, that is confirming my own experience... VIRGOVENUSLEO: Have you been the Neptune- or the planet-person? IP: Logged |
Ruben Knowflake Posts: 144 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 23, 2009 10:58 PM
Hmm, my Neptune squares someone's Sun and Mercury. I know that Mercury - Neptune contacts are supposed to be especially difficult; they indicate misunderstandings and misinterpretations due to either self delusion or actual lies. I've been completely honest and 100% open with him and there are no communication issues so far. The aspect is indeed manifested spiritually since we often communicate about spiritual subjects. But I did notice a possibly negative effect of Neptune in this case. His admiration is a bit too strong and I get the feeling he idealizes me to the point of obsession. As far as I can tell, he seems to perceive me in a way that's different from my actual persona and he seems to be focusing purely on the aspects that attract him. I noticed this tendency and that's precisely why I always try to expose myself to him as much as possible, and that includes negative aspects and traits that I know he wouldn’t appreciate. I'm trying to draw his attention to my actual personality.
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Nyah Knowflake Posts: 221 From: Europe Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 04:04 AM
hmm I've been misled or at least been delusional a couple of times... and it seems I've been the Neptune in a Neptune-Venus square and the Mercury in a Mercury-Neptune square (twice). Can't really think of anything good with this, it's just a nagging feeling that they don't tell you everything.IP: Logged |
Ruben Knowflake Posts: 144 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 04:20 AM
I have to say that even though I'm the Neptune in this case, I do feel that he's not telling me everything and that he's not fully exposing himself. Maybe it's just my own subjective perspective, but I find it kind of funny. Maybe with squares, the planet person can be the activator of the delusion?IP: Logged |
blue moon Knowflake Posts: 1344 From: U.K Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 04:25 AM
My husband has a Neptune apexed T-Square. I have a Mars apexed T-Square. Together they make a Grand Cross. So he has natal Mars Square Neptune, and his Neptune Square my Mars (and his Mars is Opposite my Mars). Positive experience, yes, spiritual ones during shared pleasurable acts. (It took me a while to think of a suitable way of putting that). My T-Square relates a lot to learning to channel my more confrontational and argumentative energies. His has its own lesson and together, with the Grand Cross energies, we have helped each other to make the most of both dynamic configurations.
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Ruben Knowflake Posts: 144 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 04:40 AM
Hmm, a combination of spirituality and sexuality?Now that sounds refreshing and complex. IP: Logged |
Ruben Knowflake Posts: 144 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 31, 2009 09:29 AM
When it comes to Neptune squares, is it possible for the other person to deceive the Neptune person or is Neptune always the deceiver? That rule seems kind of fixed to me. The description on cafeastrology says " The important thing to remember, with the square and opposition, is that although the Sun person seems to want to see the best in a Neptune person, people are not able to completely snow themselves. The Sun person will eventually feel a certain level of mistrust, and might even swing from seeing the Neptune person as completely wonderful to seeing that person as someone who is completely evil. " Now that is just scary! Especially seeing as I'm not doing anything to consciously deceive this person and I'm not encouarging the way he perceives me either. It sounds like the planet person initially forms a positive, even idealistic vision of Neptune based on specific traits they perceive and when Neptune fully exposes him/herself without filtering the traits he/she expresses (which is certainly my case), the planet person insists on perceiving Neptune in a subjective way. The planet person's perspective goes through a transformation even if Neptune doesn't actually change and as the planet owner goes through this inner monologue, he/she ends up seeing Neptune differently. And when he/she realizes that Neptune has a different nature, that's when the frustration begins. They may not realize that the only change is in their perception. So in some cases, it may not be about outright deception, but maybe just a form of subjective perception on the other person's part, a mental monologue? Have any of you experienced the outcome in that description? As the planet person specifically? IP: Logged |
vesta Knowflake Posts: 2345 From: Colorado Registered: May 2009
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posted May 31, 2009 09:52 AM
I am not sure about neptune square venus, However I have neptune opp my husband's sun and he idealizes me. However, I don't want to be idealized and this frustrates me. I tend to feel like a bad person or that I am deceiving him in some way. About neptune and venus I think that if you have a negative aspect you would need a positive one between those planets to balance the other. Like a DW where A has nep opposition, or square B's venus B has neptune trine or conjunct A's venus any thoughts on that theory? IP: Logged |
comica23 Knowflake Posts: 1212 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 31, 2009 06:06 PM
My Neptune square my bf's Mars/Venus, and sometimes I do feel confused by his likings and loving nature (he has Mars/Venus square Neptune in the natal chart), although I guess that I can intuitively get them in some way.I think that in these two aspects, the Neptune person would idealize and/or feel confused about the planet person's loving nature/likes and dislikes and actions. The key to learn how to deal with this aspect is to not to idealize the other person, while being compassionate, understanding and accepting of the differences between each other. And of course, complete honesty and communication. IP: Logged |
scrappydog Knowflake Posts: 1068 From: Texas Registered: May 2009
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posted June 14, 2009 02:41 PM
I also have venus square neptune in my natal so I have this with all men in a 5 year age range. What makes it worse is venus is so important for me, I'm a libra with taurus rising. It's been diffulcult for me, it describes so much of my personality. I'm in love with love. it's the most important thing in my life always. I'm also over emotional, needy, and dependant. I always chose bad men and am used or hurt. So for me, the venus person square anothers neptune is worse, the venus person usually gets used and decieved.IP: Logged |
oceaneyes9 Knowflake Posts: 139 From: missouri Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 15, 2010 09:55 AM
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posted November 15, 2010 10:37 AM
I've experienced my Neptune being squared by his Venus. The whole relationship was foggy and without definition (in the Composite the Sun was unaspected and Venus was conjunct Neptune). Often I felt misled. We were never official and sometimes he would get drunk and make out with other girls. It crushed me. Then I ended the relationship by seeing someone else. It came out of no where from him, but honestly, what could he expect? I felt strung along for months. I had to get out of there.IP: Logged |
PrettyVirgo Knowflake Posts: 54 From: 8th house Registered: Jan 2014
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posted July 02, 2014 01:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by vesta: I am not sure about neptune square venus, However I have neptune opp my husband's sun and he idealizes me. However, I don't want to be idealized and this frustrates me. I tend to feel like a bad person or that I am deceiving him in some way. About neptune and venus I think that if you have a negative aspect you would need a positive one between those planets to balance the other. Like a DW where A has nep opposition, or square B's venus B has neptune trine or conjunct A's venus any thoughts on that theory?
I wonder if there are any thoughts on this theory as well. What would happen in a situation like this? IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 42205 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 02, 2014 05:03 PM
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology.IP: Logged |
next to neptune Knowflake Posts: 1683 From: The Moon Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 02, 2014 05:29 PM
I have a good example!Me and my sweet boyfriend have been together for 1 year now, and we always have a nice time, never any problems. I think he idealize me a lot, and in his eyes I'm probably the princess, while in my eyes he is sure my angel, my knight on the white horse AND my savior. And thats just how it is. We have sun square neptune in synastry, and this is our very strongest aspect. (it's like 0 degrees). I'm aware of the fact that he doesn't see the true me, because of neptune constantly painting his glasses rose-red whenever he looks at me… he calls me beautiful everyday, he does everything to me, without I could ever give as much back. But I tell him this every time. I feel completely myself around him, I don't hide anything from him. (Well except I'm into astrology lol). But no matter what I do, I can't prevent neptune from deceiving him. You see what you want to see, until the day that you don't! And I can only wish for that day never to come, where he starts to believe that I'm "evil" and not as good as he thought. BUT! There is always a BUT!!! If you also have saturn in your synastry with some heavy aspect, this could really make things complex. My theory is that with saturn also making an aspect in synastry with your personal planet, you are able to see the reality, yet the delusion at the same time. We have sun-saturn double whammy in synastry, so my hope is that this will help him to see the true me, and the reality. I have not heard him say anything that wasn't true about me so… maybe I'm just really lucky! BTW - we also got neptune square mercury, and he often seem to "promise" a little more than he can deliver I noticed. Yes, actually he is downright lying at times to me! But it's not that I get mad with him… actually I think it's a little funny, and I know him well enough to know that he doesn't do it on purpose… we can always sit and talk about it face to face if it is. But I like the idea that we have our own private life too, you don't have to share everything with your significant other - I trust him 110 %, and I did that from the day I met him IP: Logged |
bansheequeen Knowflake Posts: 298 From: Beachville, USA Registered: Jan 2012
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posted July 03, 2014 01:05 AM
I don't have the square nasally or in my relationship, I have the conjunction in both. But I really relate to everyone here, except I think with the conjunction there's less of a push pull and more of a constant flow of the energies.I think when it comes to Neptune aspects it matters less who's Neptune and who's the planet due to he nature of Neptune, shifting, illusion, deceptive, no boundaries. We both put each other on a pedestal and have been deceptive in stupid ways. However he is a Saturnian Pisces and my Neptune and Venus are conjunct Saturn. So I think even though I am grounded in reality, I can still let my idealism take hold and see my boyfriend in the best light. Like I know he is flawed but it doesn't matter, it's everything including his flaws that make him so perfect and lovable. I used to resent feeling like I had to live up to the way people see me but now I prefer hiding behind the fog of Neptune. IP: Logged |