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Tulipe
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posted July 09, 2014 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone have this in their synastry? I'd like to know your take on this kind of aspects, thanks.

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posted July 09, 2014 05:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since the Draco is a nodal chart, I`d say they are VERY tightly connected to your lifepath.

I have it in my natal. Draco Moon on my SN and DESC. I would certainly pay a lot of attention to this aspect.


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posted July 09, 2014 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Since the Draco is a nodal chart, I`d say they are VERY tightly connected to your lifepath.



I agree with Ceri. Since the Draco chart is like a horoscope of your Moon nodes, this contact shows a fated contact on your life path, the nature of it to be determined by the planets. More contacts probably mean a common life path. It's a bit like having many contacts to the nodes (and perhaps vertices) in a regular synastry.

In my synastry, I have:

His Draco Mars/Neptune opp squares my nodal axis (1)
Draco Pholus/Alma conjunct my SN, his Draco Venus/Cupido sextile makes a Yod with my nodal axis, release in the above


My Draco Venus conjuncts his NN (2)
My Draco Jupiter/Juno/Pholus/Ceres conjunct his SN (max 3 deg, very tight)
My Draco Neptune(Eros/POF) squares his nodal axis (2)


Normally, it's the conjunctions that show a binding contact, in this respect. But I would look (apart from squares) at Yod/Boomerang formations as well, because the Boomerang is built around an opp anyway and it is a major fate-related config.

In my synastry, I like the Yin/Yang of Draco Venus/Neptune (me) and Draco Mars/Neptune (him) sitting on each other's nodal axes.

What are your aspects?

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posted July 09, 2014 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have that too, Tulip..
My Draco ASC conjuncts his natal North Node(by 1 degree).

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posted July 09, 2014 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ooooh, good one.

DAMN, that's like striking gold.

My dSUN, dMER, dSAT, dNEP, dJUNO, dEROS, dDESTINN and dVALENTINE --

are ALL parallel his nNNODE.

Jesus!

... and dJUNO is parallel mine. And his dALMA-dJUNO are close to, but too far out of orb to be conjunct my nNNODE. 6º.

Wow. THAT was illuminating.

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posted July 09, 2014 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about angles? I have DSC-NN and MC-NN with C. Cool, isn't it?

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posted July 09, 2014 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Guardian's dKAALI is parallel my nNNODE. Pffthh. That figures? It's conjunct my nCHIRON, too. Boy, does that make sense.

Aww, his dVALENTINE is there, too. Wow! Parallel my nNNODE.

So, both my Twin and my Guardian's dVALENTINEs are parallel my nNNODE. Well, THAT's a connexion if I ever saw one.

His dURA is parallel, too. Not sure what that's about yet.

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posted July 11, 2014 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Since the Draco is a nodal chart, I`d say they are VERY tightly connected to your lifepath.

I have it in my natal. Draco Moon on my SN and DESC. I would certainly pay a lot of attention to this aspect.


Hi Ceri , I was hoping you would respond. This kind of aspect is hard to pinpoint, it certainly is different from tropical planets conjunct Nodes, but I can't wrap my mind about how different it is.

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posted July 11, 2014 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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In my synastry, I like the Yin/Yang of Draco Venus/Neptune (me) and Draco Mars/Neptune (him) sitting on each other's nodal axes.

There's your Neptune flair, the Draco Yin/Yang is fantastic, it's pretty rare.


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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I agree with Ceri. Since the Draco chart is like a horoscope of your Moon nodes, this contact shows a fated contact on your life path, the nature of it to be determined by the planets. More contacts probably mean a common life path. It's a bit like having many contacts to the nodes (and perhaps vertices) in a regular synastry.

In my synastry, I have:

His Draco Mars/Neptune opp squares my nodal axis (1)
Draco Pholus/Alma conjunct my SN, his Draco Venus/Cupido sextile makes a Yod with my nodal axis, release in the above


My Draco Venus conjuncts his NN (2)
My Draco Jupiter/Juno/Pholus/Ceres conjunct his SN (max 3 deg, very tight)
My Draco Neptune(Eros/POF) squares his nodal axis (2)


Normally, it's the conjunctions that show a binding contact, in this respect. But I would look (apart from squares) at Yod/Boomerang formations as well, because the Boomerang is built around an opp anyway and it is a major fate-related config.

What are your aspects?


Boomerang and T-square asides, first thing I noticed is his Draco Moon oppose my South Node/Moon, my Draco Saturn on his South Node/Karma. Natally we both have planets square Nodal Axis so these aspects touch those skipped steps too.
Cheking my data of real life couples in my entourage, few synastries have these aspects. I sure will look more into this.

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posted July 11, 2014 03:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
I have that too, Tulip, with the crush.
My Draco ASC conjuncts his natal North Node(by 1 degree) and my draco Sun conjuncts his natal South Node.

Hi Orange, is this the one who touches your Chiron?

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posted July 11, 2014 03:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Ooooh, good one.

DAMN, that's like striking gold.

My dSUN, dMER, dSAT, dNEP, dJUNO, dEROS, dDESTINN and dVALENTINE --

are ALL parallel his nNNODE.

Jesus!

... and dJUNO is parallel mine. And his dALMA-dJUNO are close to, but too far out of orb to be conjunct my nNNODE. 6º.

Wow. THAT was illuminating.


I'm not familiar with Draco asteroids (or tropical ones for that matter) and parallel, but your aspects sound intense, Indigo.

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posted July 11, 2014 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
What about angles? I have DSC-NN and MC-NN with C. Cool, isn't it?


Yes, I was thiking the Nodes person feels a kinship for the planets person. With Angles maybe both parties feel the same, your individual becoming is tied to his life path. I still think he needs to see you, or at least you need to see him, in person .

Is there any way we can draw a synastry between a Draco chart and a Tropical chart?

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posted July 11, 2014 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Boomerang and T-square asides, first thing I noticed is his Draco Moon oppose my South Node/Moon, my Draco Saturn on his South Node/Karma. Natally we both have planets square Nodal Axis so these aspects touch those skipped steps too.
Cheking my data of real life couples in my entourage, few synastries have these aspects. I sure will look more into this.


That's very significant. A Moon/Saturn karmic theme.

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posted July 11, 2014 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Hi Ceri , I was hoping you would respond. This kind of aspect is hard to pinpoint, it certainly is different from tropical planets conjunct Nodes, but I can't wrap my mind about how different it is.



its a little deeper, more happening on the subtle soul level underneath that is the motor and motivation of our actions. Maybe even the reason why you have to go where your NN tells you.

Why is my SN in Gemini on the DESC, propelling me to analyze and study relationships from an astro-point of view? (and it just struck me it is in the sign of Twins. LOL).


Now Draco Moon is there conjunct SN but MORE precisely conjunct DESC (orb: 0°05), it probably means that most of the people I meet somehow touch my soul or come from a past life or are in some way karmically related to me.

But why is this so? Why am I drawn to these karmic and soulmate-encounters in my life?
Well, for htis we have to take into account what Moon is about. I need to learn about my emotions, about my soulfamily in a sense even, and Moon in my natal chart rules the 8th house, all of this pushes me into emotional transformation, and apparently the past (SN) is vital for this. It is starting in the past, because MOon is on the SN rather than the NN.
But since it is also conjunct DESC it probably means that the closest relationship I have are past-related. Nothing new under the sun for me. lol

On the other hand these relationships with old mates (DESC conjunct SN) push me right with my nose into my tropically peregrine Moon. LEARN ABOUT EMOTIONS. it sais.
You need to go there, into the soul, the emotions, or there will be no transformation for you.
That is what it tells me.


Now, my Draconic chart on its own is interesting, as it puts Draco Sun, Mercury, Venus into my tropical 4th house and Draco Moon into my tropical 7th house.

Where my tropical is all centred around the 1st quadrant, being all about MEMEME, on a deeper level these attachments are there. Not that obvious maybe, but that seemingly 1st house Sun draconically falls into my 4th house, and makes a connection there from 1st to 4th. 1st being the overt level, 4th being from underneath, the undercurrent.

something like that at least.

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posted July 12, 2014 03:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tulipe:
I'm not familiar with Draco asteroids (or tropical ones for that matter) and parallel, but your aspects sound intense, Indigo.


Yeah, I wasn't even thinking to look at his Draco points on my NNODE. I guess the tonnes of parallels make sense. In our tropical, it's mostly all contraparallels.

Well, if your Twin's not gonna force evolution (and on all sides, too) then who can? I can certainly say the situations we've faced has incited fast-track development on so many levels for both of us.

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posted July 12, 2014 05:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Yes, I was thiking the Nodes person feels a kinship for the planets person. With Angles maybe both parties feel the same, your individual becoming is tied to his life path. I still think he needs to see you, or at least you need to see him, in person .

Is there any way we can draw a synastry between a Draco chart and a Tropical chart?


Hehe, I still thinks so too. It would be such a loss to never find out how our Venus opposite Uranus and other astro gifts would work in real life ^^

I'm afraid that's not an option. Draco charts are unsavable.

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posted September 12, 2015 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bumblebee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

I have tropical venus conjunct tr. south node exact and I have a relationship with a man whose draconic moon conjunct my tropical venus south node conjunction.
What would this mean?

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posted September 12, 2015 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In regular synastry with Mr.Uranus we have angle nodal contacts, like my Nodes conjunct exactly his ASC/DSC axis and my MC/IC conjunct tightly his Nodes, with my BML exactly on his SN.

Now, if i look at my draco, the overlay to his Sun brings my Mercury and Venus to an exact conjunction with his tropical SN (his SN being in the midpoint of my Mercury/Venus).

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posted September 12, 2015 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i've got someone's draco sun & venus conjunct my tropical NN in the 4th house in capricorn exact, really it is exact kind of weird uhhhhh.

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posted September 12, 2015 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've often been intrigued by these linkages. It seems that the energy of the Draco points are crucial to our soul's development. The individuals whose points make conjunctions (within 10º, for karmic astrology, though, again, I prefer to keep 'em tight) to our NODAL axis, indeed, have a double-duty of evolving their own planets or points, which, in turn, can prove transformative and illuminating to the NODES person.

What if the aspect is happening at the SNODE end? How can we bring something from the future to have effect upon the past? Rather, I feel that there's a special relationship, indicating healing through the NNODE (and the Draco points conjunct it) can clear karma at, and finally heal, the SNODE.

My twin's dPLUTO is here, at my NNODE, very widely at 4º, to conjoin my NNODE at 18º Leo. However, he himself has SAPPHO conjunct his dPLUTO, 0º. Fortunately, one of the means of most productively developing his power, and using it to transform rather than destroy, is through the impassioned application in art. Yes, indeed.

For me, it's dJUPITER that's conjunct his NNODE -- also 4º. Benevolence, principles, and philosophy has always been at the forefront of our dynamics, as I've struggled to help him see that his adherence to principles that had become long-since obsolete were now holding him back, causing pain rather than growth. And, through his dPLUTO, he has helped me to get in touch with my true personal power in a way I never had before, finally coming into my own.

Not much going on down South, however, save for a tight, 0º30 conjunction of his dAMOR to my SNODE. But this is crucial.

Unconditional love has been the recurring theme between us in every lifeline; the ability to love one another -- to trust them -- even during the most difficult, and ostensibly dangerous times. He has not only owed it to himself to develop the ability to love unconditionally, but due to deep wounding in the past, I've needed him to do so, in order to be free of that lingering 'past pain'. Pain which has had an intense effect for me, being conjunct my SNODE square my CHIRON. It activates my most karmic axis in a sharp, powerful way.

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posted September 12, 2015 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by angel4845:
i've got someone's draco sun & venus conjunct my tropical NN in the 4th house in capricorn exact, really it is exact kind of weird uhhhhh.


It's crucial that they evolve beyond their ego in terms of their identity, so that they're able to show you the best path to your own evolution. This person must also be able to manage and resolve their past issues surrounding love -- giving and receiving it -- and, potentially, their creative self-expression.

Once they're able to do that, they can prove powerfully illuminating for you; shining a light upon your own destiny and path.

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posted September 15, 2015 05:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bumblebee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bumblebee:
Hi,

I have tropical venus conjunct tr. south node exact and I have a relationship with a man whose draconic moon conjunct my tropical venus south node conjunction.
What would this mean?



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posted September 15, 2015 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
It's crucial that they evolve beyond their ego in terms of their identity, so that they're able to show you the best path to your own evolution. This person must also be able to manage and resolve their past issues surrounding love -- giving and receiving it -- and, potentially, their creative self-expression.

Once they're able to do that, they can prove powerfully illuminating for you; shining a light upon your own destiny and path.


This sounds super accurate aubyanne. it is true.

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