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Topic: When your Sun is exact partner's Sun/Moon MP?
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fireopal09 Knowflake Posts: 431 From: Dallas,TX, Us Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 09, 2014 01:47 AM
2H/8H. Any experience, hypotheses?------------------ Claire "When going gets weird, the weird turn pro." -HST IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 5175 From: In my 1st house Uranus and Neptune Registered: May 2011
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posted July 09, 2014 03:13 AM
My Moon is exact (as in, the minute and second anything) my Partner's Sun/MoonThis means the person is their life and they will most likely be stuck on them forever... IP: Logged |
LionFish Knowflake Posts: 1191 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted July 09, 2014 03:27 AM
In general, I think it would make them admire you bc you would seem to blend their ego and emotions into one being with a higher understanding. The appeal of, and draw to the sun person the MP person would feel would probably be very dramatic, but the way the mp person would be affected could have to do with the house said midpoint falls into...Mine is conjunct my MC so the impact is even greater in my case with the angle conjunction... Every person is different, but I imagine the admiration/respect would be there regardless IP: Logged |
unforgiven_soul Knowflake Posts: 330 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted July 09, 2014 03:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by KarkaQueen: My Moon is exact (as in, the minute and second anything) my Partner's Sun/MoonThis means the person is their life and they will most likely be stuck on them forever...
You mean for the Moon conjuncting the midpoint? Which one is stronger actually in a synastry? The Sun or the Moon conjuncting your partners Sun-Moon midpoint? IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 365 From: vancouver, bc, canada Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 09, 2014 03:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by LionFish: In general, I think it would make them admire you bc you would seem to blend their ego and emotions into one being with a higher understanding. The appeal of, and draw to the sun person the MP person would feel would probably be very dramatic, but the way the mp person would be affected could have to do with the house said midpoint falls into...Mine is conjunct my MC so the impact is even greater in my case with the angle conjunction... Every person is different, but I imagine the admiration/respect would be there regardless
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KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 5175 From: In my 1st house Uranus and Neptune Registered: May 2011
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posted July 09, 2014 03:36 AM
quote: Originally posted by unforgiven_soul: You mean for the Moon conjuncting the midpoint? Which one is stronger actually in a synastry? The Sun or the Moon conjuncting your partners Sun-Moon midpoint?
Perhaps Moon b/c its more a vulnerable point IP: Logged |
Wild Horses Knowflake Posts: 186 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted July 09, 2014 03:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by KarkaQueen: This means the person is their life and they will most likely be stuck on them forever...
What she said!!! My Obsession has his Sun on my Sun-Moon MP 0°. I have resigned myself to the fact that I will want him forever. Regardless of what his feelings ever are, I will simply always feel like he's the most perfect creature walking on the face of this Earth. I think the fact that his Sun is a Leo, plus the Leo Sun- my Midpoint conjunction falls in my 1st house just magnifies it to an unreal proportion. I utterly worship him. Grief. It makes me sick sometimes. I'm not in a relationship with him, so I'm just stuck with all this adoration and worship for him. I think that the feeling of completion is very strong when the Sun-Moon Midpoint owner has a Natal Sun-Moon square, as is my case. When the Sun and Moon are square you never feel like you can have what you need and what you want. You feel like you have to ALWAYS choose between what you want to do and what you have to do. You envy people who have Sun-Moon conjunct, trine, or sextile, because you see them often having what they need and what they want being the same thing. They get to enjoy that feeling of cohesion that always seems to elude you. So, when you have that square, and someone's Sun hits that midpoint, it makes the feeling that they make you feel whole overwhelming. It's not that you feel like you're empty and they fill you. That's not the sensation. I don't feel empty without this person. I feel full inside. It's more the sense that they represent the meeting or fusion of your conflicting Sun and Moon. They feel like what you want AND need both at once, something a person with the Natal Sun-Moon square rarely feels. They make you feel like you don't have to choose one or the other with them. They can be both. I've read that it can also be very strong for people who's Natal Sun and Moon do not aspect one another. For them, the Sun hitting their midpoint helps them to feel a connection between their Sun and Moon that they normally don't get to feel. Bottom line... Believe all the hype. Sun on Sun-Moon midpoint is one of the most powerful aspects in all of synastry.
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Wild Horses Knowflake Posts: 186 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted July 09, 2014 04:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by KarkaQueen: Perhaps Moon b/c its more a vulnerable point
I think it would depend on where exactly the midpoint falls in the MP owner's chart. In my case, my Sun-Moon Midpoint falls in Leo in my first house. So, a Leo Sun hitting that spot and being in my 1st house just overwhelms me with awe. I mean PURE AND UTTER AWE. I simply stand defenceless where that person is concerned. Now, that's my near MP. My far MP is in Aquarius in my 8th house, and someone's Sun falling there in my 8th would probably be strong, but not as strong as the other because there's just no Sun that shines as brightly and inspires worship like a Leo Sun. However, if someone had their Sun-Moon MP fall in Cancer or in their 4th house, then that person would probably feel the effects of a Cancer Moon hitting their midpoint as overwhelming. I'd imagine that the sense of emotional fulfillment and nurturing they felt would be unparalleled. It may be the same for other placements, too. i.e. if someone's Sun-Moon MP was in Libra, the 7th, or both, then they might be most strongly drawn to someone who's Libra Venus hit that spot.
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KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 5175 From: In my 1st house Uranus and Neptune Registered: May 2011
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posted July 09, 2014 04:12 AM
This is true, Wild Horse. Pure awe, huh? My boyfriend really worships me and gloats over me too, .. his Sun/Moon midpoint is in the 8th house of intimacy and obsession in TaurusIP: Logged |
Wild Horses Knowflake Posts: 186 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted July 09, 2014 04:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by KarkaQueen: This is true, Wild Horse. Pure awe, huh? My boyfriend really worships me and gloats over me too, .. his Sun/Moon midpoint is in the 8th house of intimacy and obsession in Taurus
Whoa. With your Moon being exactly on that spot, and in his 8th and in sensual Taurus... Hmmm. I have nothing uncensorable to say to that... You lucky thing!
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 695 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 09, 2014 03:48 PM
I knew a girl who had her Sun conjunct my Sun/Moon midpoint, I liked her and liked being around her.I met a guy who also had his Sun conjunct my Sun/Moon midpoint. I wasn't that crazy about him. I found him a little shifty(probably because I suspect he had Pisces Asc or Neptune in house 1) Olivier Martinez has his Moon conjunct my Sun/Moon midpoint and I am not all that interested in him either. I think I might be indifferent to people who have their Sun or Moon conjunct my Sun/Moon Midpoint. But if I check my Moon/Mercury midpoint. Howza!!! I've dated tons of people who have Moon/Sun/Venus/Mars/Asc aspecting it mostly by conjunction. But the squares also get my attention.
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unforgiven_soul Knowflake Posts: 330 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted July 09, 2014 05:14 PM
The guy I want is a Leo Sun, Capricorn Moon and his Sun-Moon midpoint conjuncts my Scorpio Moon and are both in our 8th house (we both have Pisces AS). The Scorpio Moon is in it's natural house, very strong...IP: Logged |
Wild Horses Knowflake Posts: 186 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted July 09, 2014 08:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by unforgiven_soul: The guy I want is a Leo Sun, Capricorn Moon and his Sun-Moon midpoint conjuncts my Scorpio Moon and are both in our 8th house (we both have Pisces AS). The Scorpio Moon is in it's natural house, very strong...
"The guy I want..." With those placements, I'm gonna say he wants you, too. IP: Logged |
Wild Horses Knowflake Posts: 186 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted July 09, 2014 08:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: I knew a girl who had her Sun conjunct my Sun/Moon midpoint, I liked her and liked being around her.I met a guy who also had his Sun conjunct my Sun/Moon midpoint. I wasn't that crazy about him. I found him a little shifty(probably because I suspect he had Pisces Asc or Neptune in house 1) Olivier Martinez has his Moon conjunct my Sun/Moon midpoint and I am not all that interested in him either. I think I might be indifferent to people who have their Sun or Moon conjunct my Sun/Moon Midpoint. But if I check my Moon/Mercury midpoint. Howza!!! I've dated tons of people who have Moon/Sun/Venus/Mars/Asc aspecting it mostly by conjunction. But the squares also get my attention.
Aries, are your Moon and Mercury square or in hard aspect? Are they 5th or 8th house rulers? I'm curious what makes that midpoint so much more sensitive for you. What aspect do your Sun and Moon make to one another?
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fireopal09 Knowflake Posts: 431 From: Dallas,TX, Us Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 09, 2014 09:46 PM
Apparently, I became a little too friendly with the beer last night as I meant to make this OP in the Interpersonal Forum. I apologizes, dear Moderators. That being said, you all have some illuminating anecdotes and ideas. My 2H Libran Sun is on his 8H S/M midpoint. This is our 2nd go round in 20 years. I don't do 2nd chances which makes this weird. This is an LDR & get to spend on average 2 weekends per month with him. Mutual friends have told me he is much happier when I am around. ------------------ Claire "When going gets weird, the weird turn pro." -HST IP: Logged |
unforgiven_soul Knowflake Posts: 330 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted July 10, 2014 12:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by Wild Horses: "The guy I want..." With those placements, I'm gonna say he wants you, too.
You made me smile with what you said Wild Horses He did want me a lot, and who knows if he still does think about me, I totally do! Our synastry is exploding... but it seems life had other plans... IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 3264 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 12, 2014 03:51 AM
Yes. I got over it, though. Ohh, I adored him for sure. He was a powerful catalystic soulmate who made me realise some very intense things -- confront major issues. I changed the course of my life due to these realisations. He'll always be dear to me for these reasons. We still click immediately as if no time has passed. It's lovely. But with the lessons learnt, the 'obsession' concluded. Now it's a very pleasant relationship with a wonderful old friend. He retaught me the meaning OF friendship. We take it so for granted, you know? I'll never forget the phrase, 'JUST friends. It's tragic we look at it this way. JUST friends. JUST friends? A friend is a part of our soul; a friend is in our heart no matter how long they're in our life. That's not JUST anything -- it's everything.' Truly wonderful man. IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 3264 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 12, 2014 03:54 AM
I have a SUN/MOON=SUN/MOON, 3° with my stepdaughter. We share a powerful bond. IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 3264 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 12, 2014 03:57 AM
quote: Originally posted by fireopal09: Apparently, I became a little too friendly with the beer last night as I meant to make this OP in the Interpersonal Forum. I apologizes, dear Moderators. That being said, you all have some illuminating anecdotes and ideas. My 2H Libran Sun is on his 8H S/M midpoint. This is our 2nd go round in 20 years. I don't do 2nd chances which makes this weird. This is an LDR & get to spend on average 2 weekends per month with him. Mutual friends have told me he is much happier when I am around.
They're excellent ties, opal. I've had several hit my SUN/MOON, and vice versa. Always significant. LDR's are tricky. My husband and I were for the first eight months of our relationship. He'd come in for a week monthly. But we'd spend that whole week together, in crazy infatuated romantic love. Ahhh, the days. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 13674 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 12, 2014 08:26 AM
Mr Sag and me "almost" have it. I never know how much to count it. lolhis Sun/Moon 27°48 Sag my Sun 25°56 Sag so the orb is not exact, it is 1°52 I read with Sun and Moon, you can expand the orb of midpoints to 2 degrees. However it probably would be stronger if it was more exact. So I dunno how he feels about that. Additionally we have these nuances:
his Sun/Moon 27.48 Sag composite Sun 26.26 Sag (orb 1°18) my Sun/Moon 21.31 Cap composite Moon 22.52 Cap (orb: 1°21)
composite Sun is also conjunct his natal Sun, Moon, MC, as is my natal Sun-Mercury, so ther eis a little bit much Sun-Moon-interaction to really be sure what does what. lol
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mir Knowflake Posts: 1466 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 12, 2014 10:47 AM
Yess that's a very strong pull. From my own perspective, I like the opposite to my Sun/Moon midpoint most (from the Sun). I now have his Sun/Moon opposite my Sun, within 1*. This was a mutual all-at-first-thing but I'm sure some outstanding progressions were responsible for that. I once had my Sun/Moon midpoint conjunct a friend's Sun, but I didn't feel so 'at-home' with him and his environment. Although it did last some years. He was verry happy with our friendship. IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 3264 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 12, 2014 04:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Mr Sag and me "almost" have it. I never know how much to count it. lolhis Sun/Moon 27°48 Sag my Sun 25°56 Sag so the orb is not exact, it is 1°52 I read with Sun and Moon, you can expand the orb of midpoints to 2 degrees. However it probably would be stronger if it was more exact. So I dunno how he feels about that. Additionally we have these nuances:
his Sun/Moon 27.48 Sag composite Sun 26.26 Sag (orb 1°18) my Sun/Moon 21.31 Cap composite Moon 22.52 Cap (orb: 1°21)
composite Sun is also conjunct his natal Sun, Moon, MC, as is my natal Sun-Mercury, so ther eis a little bit much Sun-Moon-interaction to really be sure what does what. lol
No doubt that's why composite points are so significant when conjunct natal points. It's the ultimate fusion of such energies in both charts; when they hit our natals -- we can't help but feel and express them in the manner of the points hit. So it's hardly a surprise to see these linkages between you and P. Trust me, that story has a richness that's just beginning. YOU had to first 'begin' in order for IT to ever take shape. And now you have. You've started the journey. You won't be disappointed, either. I was here when I saw what I had; I realise this now. I don't observe those which are of such subtle difference -- one different choice or decision -- only those in which EVERYTHING is drastically different. Strangely, my personal choices seem the same. I've not yet figured that one out just yet. So I saw and felt this HERE. It must be this timeline. Nothing else makes sense. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4232 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 12, 2014 04:41 PM
What do you think is the effect of Jupiter conjunct Sun/Moon mdp?------------------
I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
fireopal09 Knowflake Posts: 431 From: Dallas,TX, Us Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 12, 2014 06:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by IndigoDirae: I have a SUN/MOON=SUN/MOON, 3° with my stepdaughter. We share a powerful bond.
I LOVE this.So many step kids feel resented by the step parent.I know I did. My daughter is suffering through this at the hands of ex hubby's live in girlfriend (The Minion). I raised my first ex fiance's daughter from the time she was 4 until she was 9.I was her primary caregiver as her parents were pretty damn flakey.She started to refer to me as mom & her dad actually resented our bond. Weird.He poisoned her against me after I refused to move back to AK when I was going through my divorce (this was 7 years after I left him.) I'm sorry for the novel. This is one of my deepest wounds. It really does my heart well to know you & your kiddo have a strong bond. ------------------ Claire "When going gets weird, the weird turn pro." -HST IP: Logged |