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Topic: Venus/chiron synastry DW
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IntuitiveJ Knowflake Posts: 237 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted July 14, 2014 06:02 PM
How do you feel this aspect may play out? Her venus opposite his chiron (orb 2) His venus widely trine her chiron (orb 6)I have read a little about both aspects separately but nothing on the double whammy. Thank you to anyone willing to answer! IP: Logged |
IntuitiveJ Knowflake Posts: 237 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted July 16, 2014 12:46 PM
Bumping! In case anyone wanted to share their opinion on venus/chiron DW!IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4342 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 16, 2014 01:09 PM
The DW shows this is an important part of your relationship: healing through the power of love. It also shows it's a mutual, connective energy. ------------------
I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
jjj Knowflake Posts: 346 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted July 16, 2014 06:36 PM
I have it with someone: my Aries Chiron conjuncts his Aries venus and his Aqua Chiron squares my Scorpio Venus, but orbs are wide, 5 degrees both. We have a tight Chiron-Venus parallel as well (my chiron, his Venus).We seem to get deep under each other's skin and bring out the hidden wounds/insecurities.... even just being in the same room. It is very challenging and healing, if both do inner work separately. This connection feels very otherwordly, like bliss, at times. We are not together, but you never know what will happen.... IP: Logged |
ail221 Moderator Posts: 4495 From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon Registered: Feb 2012
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posted July 16, 2014 07:02 PM
I have this with someone and it is difficult. You feel as if you're walking on eggshells with them even if there is nothing wrong. It brings out your insecurities that you thought you worked through internally. One of the good things about the Double whammy is that you are both feeling this and it isn't a one sided friction. You're more likely to reveal and heal those past hurts and insecurities with that person so yes, purely with personal growth this type of relationship will help you.IP: Logged |
IntuitiveJ Knowflake Posts: 237 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted July 16, 2014 10:12 PM
Thank you all so much!! I have heard that the venus-chiron opposite is called the impossible dream. Meaning it hurts too much to love that person. However even tho the trine in this synastry is wide (6 orb) I had hoped that would balance out the opposite. Much thanks!IP: Logged |
mir Knowflake Posts: 1483 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 16, 2014 10:59 PM
A Magi Lesson;
quote: THE IMPOSSIBLE DREAM CLASHEvery Linkage and Clash is different and one of the most unique ones is the Venus-Chiron Clash. In the above CAC, we have used a red line to highlight the fact that Jada and Will Smith also form a Clash between Jada's Chiron and Will's Venus. This is perhaps the most unique Clash and is not like any other Clash. Most Clashes are not signs of attraction although with some Clashes, there can be attraction that fades. But in the case of the Venus-Chiron Clash, it actually is a sign of lifelong attraction and at the same time it is also a sign of incompatibility. Two persons who form this Clash are normally attracted to each other but unlikely to get married. For this reason, we have given this Clash the special name of "Impossible Dream Clash." It is important to keep in mind that there are no 100 percent rules when it comes to human behavior. Some couples forming the Impossible Dream Clash will get married. As a result of our monumental and extensive research, we have found that when two persons form the Impossible Dream Clash and still get married, it is usually because one or both persons were born with a Turbulent Chiron Aspect. We know all this sounds complicated, and it is. That is why we included this information in our interpretation upgrade to our software. Our interpretation software gives you the benefit of the knowledge derived from our extraordinary research. In our software with the interpretation upgrade, we explain that "for one reason or another, it is rare for two people with this clash to get married. But they do, especially if either person was born with a square or opposition to Chiron." This interpretation that is provided by our software is amazingly prophetic in this case because as shown in the above CAC, both Will and Jada were born with an opposition to Chiron (that we have drawn in blue lines and labeled Turbulent Chiron Aspect in the above CAC). Therefore, both Will and Jada were born with the type of natal aspect that is most likely to make the two of them marry each other in spite of the fact they form a Venus-Chiron Clash.
http://www.magiastrology.com/interpretation_software/smithcac.htm PS; there might be a natal Chiron-clash in the Helio longitudes, so don't forget to look there also.
And another thing, if this Chiron/Venus clash is part of a mystical triangle in which the Chiron of one makes a trine (or quincunx) to a planet of the other (not saturn) .. it would be an RSL (romantic super linkage) and I guess we might call that "migitating circumstances".
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jjj Knowflake Posts: 346 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted July 17, 2014 03:56 AM
Check your synastry for geo declinations and helio longitudes/latitudes - maybe you have another tight (but good) Venus-Chiron linkage (conj, trine, quincunx or parallel or contraparallel), that can balance the opposition.The orb of the trine is a bit wide... in Magi it wouldnt qualify.
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IntuitiveJ Knowflake Posts: 237 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted July 17, 2014 08:11 AM
quote: Originally posted by mir: A Magi Lesson; [QUOTE] And another thing, if this Chiron/Venus clash is part of a mystical triangle in which the Chiron of one makes a trine (or quincunx) to a planet of the other (not saturn) .. it would be an RSL (romantic super linkage) and I guess we might call that "migitating circumstances".
I never looked at the other planets strangely enough! His chiron quincunx her sun (orb 2) Her chiron quincunx his juno (orb 2) I wonder if this helps!
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IntuitiveJ Knowflake Posts: 237 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted July 17, 2014 08:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by jjj: Check your synastry for geo declinations and helio longitudes/latitudes - maybe you have another tight (but good) Venus-Chiron linkage (conj, trine, quincunx or parallel or contraparallel), that can balance the opposition.The orb of the trine is a bit wide... in Magi it wouldnt qualify.
I am still really new to this In regular synastry (geo?) when I look at the declinations the venus/chiron opposition is a contra parallel. I have to check out helio- not quite sure how to read that yet! Thank you IP: Logged |
jjj Knowflake Posts: 346 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted July 17, 2014 08:18 AM
Post the geo and helio signs and degrees/declinations, so we can check For ex: his Venus 26 Cancer, your Chiron 26 Cappy; his Venus 3.23 S, your Chiron 3.01 N Only that in helio take latitudes, not declinations.
Venus-Chiron CP is good!
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mir Knowflake Posts: 1483 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 17, 2014 10:07 AM
quote: I never looked at the other planets strangely enough! His chiron quincunx her sun (orb 2) Her chiron quincunx his juno (orb 2)I wonder if this helps!
Ah sorry, I made a big mistake. An opp. is never part of a mystical triangle. But it will Always be better to have some outlet for a clash (unless saturn is part of it). So I interprete now; His Chiron is opp. her Venus (2). His Chiron quincunx her Sun (2). (with a semi-sextile between Sun/Venus prob.) ^^ Always better than a Chiron/Venus clash on its own. Chiron/Sun quincunx would be a great one. And that other one, Chiron/Juno, is the longterm partner linkage (without marriage) .. well, there's such a focus on marriage with that impossible dream clash.. do you mind to NOT marry? I don't Once = enough.
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IntuitiveJ Knowflake Posts: 237 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted July 17, 2014 11:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by jjj: Post the geo and helio signs and degrees/declinations, so we can check For ex: his Venus 26 Cancer, your Chiron 26 Cappy; his Venus 3.23 S, your Chiron 3.01 N Only that in helio take latitudes, not declinations.
Venus-Chiron CP is good!
Isn't the venus/chiron contra parallel the same as the opposition? I'm so confused!! Lol
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IntuitiveJ Knowflake Posts: 237 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted July 17, 2014 11:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by mir:
So I interprete now; His Chiron is opp. her Venus (2). His Chiron quincunx her Sun (2). (with a semi-sextile between Sun/Venus prob.) ^^ Always better than a Chiron/Venus clash on its own. Chiron/Sun quincunx would be a great one. And that other one, Chiron/Juno, is the longterm partner linkage (without marriage) .. well, there's such a focus on marriage with that impossible dream clash.. do you mind to NOT marry? I don't Once = enough.
Hmmm His chiron 8 pisces Her venus 10 virgo Her sun 6 leo
So her sun is semi sextile her own venus but quincunx his chiron. Am I correct? I'm still learning I do want to marry again (am divorced too)! I am a better "me" in a committed relationship. This particular connection tho is driving me bonkers lol
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mir Knowflake Posts: 1483 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 17, 2014 11:37 AM
Correct! And those connected 3 are called a Romantic Super Linkage (RSL). Not bad.IP: Logged |
IntuitiveJ Knowflake Posts: 237 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted July 17, 2014 03:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by mir: Correct! And those connected 3 are called a Romantic Super Linkage (RSL). Not bad.
Thank you
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