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IndigoDirae
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posted July 19, 2014 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, I've been chewing on this one for awhile.

My SUN and PLUTO are either in my Twin's 8H -- or 9H. Conversely, I'm either throwing my VENUS into his 7H -- or 8H.

Trouble is, they ALL apply in their way. The intense, deep connexion which is both extremely obsessive and also terrifying -- yeah, SUN/PLUTO overlaying in 8H would nail that one. He's even told me how much 'under his skin' I am, and how he can't deal with it most of the time. And yet ....

But then what about it being in his 9H? That certainly jives, too: spiritual questing, powerful soul connexion -- having met at a distance, though he isn't foreign.

8H VENUS certainly is applicable -- unless I'm getting that confused with the SUN/PLUTO 8H. I could be. In which case, maybe 7H VENUS with the SUN/PLUTO 8H is what's going on.

So, I'm not sure what to do; take the average? I used Koch for years and found it very illuminating. But the past 3 or so, I've been taking Placidus more seriously as a default. Just not sure exactly what's the 'primary' synastry here.

For a quick rundown:

PLACIDUS, REGIO = 8H SUN/PLUTO, 7H VENUS
KOCH, WS, EQUAL, PORPHYRY*: 9H SUN/PLUTO, 8H VENUS

In Porphyry, it's actually conjunct the 8C by 0º05. Wow. Interesting.

So, it's looking like, just by taking the average, it's 9H SUN/PLUTO and 8H VENUS. But, frankly, I can't decide, given that I've heard such wonderful praise for Placidus.

Agh! Help. This is the one area where I could never quite get my act together. I'd typically just see what might be parallel or conjunct a cusp, or what the rulers were doing, to get a better idea of where the influence lay.

I'm sure I'm not the only one with this problem.

I gotta say, though ... either way ... I'm REALLY trying to do my best with this friendship thing. Taking a real crack at it. We're getting somewhat better over the phone; he'll withhold the innuendo if he's in public, or my husband's in the room with me. Which just confirmed for me that he's aware of it. He doesn't go spouting innuendo every conversation with other women, though -- just me. I figured it'd just a tough habit to break.

I'm really not looking forward to next summer, guys. If he can't even keep the undercurrent in check over the phone -- that doesn't bode well for shooting together. I have scary steely self-control as a general rule; something has to genuinely convince me, on an intellectual level, to accept whatever I may be feeling.

He was too terrified -- and I get that. But some days, I swear to God, he acts like January 2013 never happened. But we're not going to be able to manage this intensity shooting in close proximity together for a weekend. No way in hell.

So, I'm crossing my fingers that he wants to go in the initial direction for the pilot where our characters are reacting from recent mutual betrayals and pouring on the hatred. It keeps us at a reasonable distance, and we're great in a group. Alone together for any length of time? We go to great lengths to avoid that.

Thank God my costar and I just decided -- hell with it. We were driving each other insane. But we also have the emotional maturity and professionalism to back it up.

My Twin? ... helluva Pandora's box there. Hence so much avoidance.

But is that an 8H SUN/PLUTO or 8H VENUS thing?

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KingofCups
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posted July 20, 2014 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KingofCups     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you might be overthinking this. Take a step back and think about what the Eighth House essentially deals with: transformation. Then think about the Seventh House: partnership, ideal partnership. So the question becomes, what do you think was transformed?

In the case of 8th House Sun/Pluto and 7th House Venus, your identity would have been transformed. You would come out of a relationship with this person different at your core. And with Venus in his 7th, he would've thought that your emotions and method of expressing romance are ideal for him, initially at the very least.

With Venus in the Eighth, your emotional outlook and method of romancing will have transformed after being in a relationship with him. It's possible that your tastes changed as well but not necessary.

I'm personally a proponent of Placidus over Equal, but I haven't tried the other systems, so I can't say. I think having Equal distribution of houses doesn't make sense because different aspects of life are given emphasis in one life and not in another. You are here to learn different aspects of life each time, and your houses represent that.

Hope this helps

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