posted July 21, 2014 07:40 PM            

This is a link to the natal charts, and the composite of two people who are having a difficult "friendship". Is the man leading the woman on ? Can he be trusted even a bit ?

The "sex" and "emotional" planets in the man's natal chart are all in dual signs, namely the Moon in Gemini, Venus in Saggitarius, and the Mars in Pisces. Also, Mars squares both the Moon and the Venus, while the latter two oppose each other ?

In synastry, the woman's natal Moon is conjunct the man's Venus, while her Venus is trining his Moon. However, their Moons oppose each other, and each person's Mars is quincux the other's Venus. Also, they have the Sun square Venus double whammy ?

Also, the composite shows a loaded 12th house, although Venus and Sun are exactly conjunct in that chart.

posted July 22, 2014 07:42 AM            

Is this a friendship or a romantic relationship?

posted July 22, 2014 03:06 PM            

The answer to that question is honestly "unknown". From the start, these two have gone back and forth from a good platonic "friendship" to one with seriously romantic overtones. The woman is frustrated as she is starting to get emotionally involved and just wants to know if there is any scope for anything more than just a "friendship" here ? The man doesn't seem to care either way, at least that is how he presents.

posted July 22, 2014 04:13 PM            

What confuses the woman is that there seems to be an emotional intimacy and an emotional intensity that seems out-of-place for a platonic relationship. In addition to this emotional closeness are his occasionally flirtatious banter and subtle teasing that (in the woman's mind) gives this friendship romantic overtones. Aside from the occasional teasing and playful flirtation, he has, however, NEVER given her any indication that he views her as anything more than just a very close and a very good friend. So, she is wondering if she is reading more into his subtle (and rare) flirtations than there actually is ?

Also, he has never said or done anything that would even remotely indicate that he is after her "lady parts" or "free intercourse" (they have been friends for over a year now). If he had, there probably wouldn't be any need for this long thread !

It would be very helpful if anyone could interpret their charts and see if this is just an unusually emotionally intense friendship or if there is potential here for it to develop into a stable, romantic relationship.

posted July 25, 2014 06:50 AM            

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Originally posted by WhyMe:
That is OK, La Mer.

Question to others : Is there any reason why no one has responded with astrological interpretations ? Did I ask anything wrong or inappropriate ? I don't feel entitled to any help / responses, but just curious why no one is responding here, when I see other threads getting multiple replies / interpretations. If I have asked for anything inappropriate, I apologize. But please can someone / anyone with any astrological knowledge please take some time to help me ? This is a very sensitive and heart-breaking situation, so please, if you can help, I would be very grateful.

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Hi WhyMe, I'm sure it's just timing, we all have astrology days vs busy days. Just be patient and let's wait for Indigo. She has a long time research with these asteroids and she has help many cases like yours. I hope you'll receive your long-awaited responses.

posted July 27, 2014 12:46 PM            

Your thread sounds weird to me, no offense. Are you the woman? Plus, what do you mean by: the man "doesn't seem to care either way"? You said they are friends, so there is some contradictory info here.

I refrain from commenting on relationships coupled with confusing info, because I can't see clearly and I don't want to influence people when I'm not clear about things. That's why I'll let others do this analysis. Wait for Indigo, she always answers requests, just be patient. I'm sure you understand.

Best wishes!

posted July 27, 2014 12:59 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Hi, WhyMe

Your thread sounds weird to me, no offense. Are you the woman? Plus, what do you mean by: the man "doesn't seem to care either way"? You said they are friends, so there is some contradictory info here.

I refrain from commenting on relationships coupled with confusing info, because I can't see clearly and I don't want to influence people when I'm not clear about things. That's why I'll let others do this analysis. Wait for Indigo, she always answers requests, just be patient. I'm sure you understand.

Best wishes!

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posted July 27, 2014 01:21 PM            

I'd appreciated, you-know-who, if you didn't pull this again, my time is limited as everyone else's and I like to spend it discussing real charts.

WhyMe, I am very sorry for your trouble Know astrology cannot provide closure, just some guidance But I can tell you the synastry between you two is sufficiently strong for a good friendship or a romantic relationship. Perhaps you will reunite.

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posted July 27, 2014 01:48 PM            

The first thing I see is that in the natal chart view, it shows his 5th house as being intercepted. This doesn't appear as clearly in the synastry chart view. What this means is that, while, initially, he is attracted to the excitement of Aquarius Uranian energy, deep down he longs for a Piscean-Neptune soul-mate type connection. This is further shown by the fact that his 8th house ruler Mercury is tightly conjunct his IC, and in Aquarius. Same flavor. He likes Aquarian energy, but craves an emotional depth. His Pisces Mars in 5th shows this longing further. My 8th house ruler Uranus is also tightly conjunct my IC and I have Neptune in my 5th, and Mars in my 12th, so I relate to what he wants. He wants an emotionally deep soul-mate connection. He wants the deeply intimate merging of two souls, but one that also allows him his individuality. An interdependent connection of soul mates, more than a codependent connection. Also, his intercepted Pisces Mars may have a very hard time taking direct action, or taking action period. He would not be a go-getter in going after what he's attracted to. Your Aries IC with Mars in 4th would not like that. You probably go after what you want directly, and, with a Taurus Mars, you probably don't want to stop until you get it...very different approaches. You may hate what you view as his too passive nature.

His 5th ruler Uranus does not make any strong connections to your planets. Also, his 5th interception ruler Neptune does not make any strong aspects to your planets, either, and you put no planets or major asteroids into his 5th. All of those are not required, but a lack of all of them may indicate he just didn't feel a romantic attraction. You do make aspects to his 5th house Mars, which indicates some sexual heat. His Mars squares your Moon and opposes your Sun-Mercury. Those can all be very, very hot, but also, very abrasive and abrupt. Now, your Sun-Mercury do fall in his 11th, and your Uranus-Venus-MC fall in his 12th, so he may have felt some attraction, but without direct strong aspects to the rulers themselves, it may not have felt strong enough.

As for his 7th house ruler, Venus, I see your Juno-Ceres-Moon near his Venus. This shows great attraction on your part. It also shows he does have some care for you, it just may not be as strong as what you feel. Venus-Juno is a highly sexual aspect, so he was probably sexually attracted to you. Your Virgo Sun-Mercury is square his Venus, though, and, while the Sun square Venus indicates an attraction, it also indicates friction. His Sag Venus may not have had an appreciation for your Virgo Sun-Mercury nature. Virgo Sun conjunct Mercury gives you a very strong Virgo energy, which, I myself, as a Virgo Moon, can appreciate. His Sag Venus may have found it too critical, nitpicky, too concerned with details, or too perfectionistic for his liking. Also, you put no planets in his 2nd house, so, again, he wasn't feeling a lot of Taurean energy from you to draw his Taurus DC in for good.

Lastly, let's look at his 8th house. Your Saturn is there, and he may not have liked that. He's a Cap Sun, though, with Saturn trine Venus, so he may not have minded Saturn in his 8th. Your Jupiter is conjunct his 8th Ruler Mercury, and your Pluto trines it, which is good, but your Taurus Mars squares his Aquarius Mercury. His Mars is also opposite your Mercury, so this is a Double Whammy aspect for you two. Mars in hard aspect to Mercury can be rough all on its own, showing lots of arguing and clashes in day to day life, but Mars rules your Aries IC, and his Mercury is on his IC, so this goes deeper for you two. It indicates a clash in your core foundational personalities and approaches to life. Also, his 8th Ruler Mercury in Aquarius may have thought your Taurus Mars wasn't sexually adaptive or responsive enough for what he prefers. With 8th ruled by Mercury in Aquarius, he may be like sexual quicksilver. Hit and run. Your Mars in Taurus may not like that style. Your Saturn being in his 8th is yet another indicator that you would want to slow his 8th house down.

I'm afraid that I can't say it looks good. There is some sexual heat indicated with 5th house Mars square Moon and opposite Sun. Venus-Juno is highly sexual, too. Unfortunately, you have a DW Mars-Venus quincunx by sign, so there could always be sexual clashes or just plain bad timing. I do think he was sexually attracted to you, though.

posted July 27, 2014 01:55 PM            

As you folks say, this probably isn't very promising and is a hit or miss situation. I mean, we were friends for a long time, and if he hadn't acted on it - aside from the flirtatious banter and the subtle remarks from time to time - then that is already my answer. He called off the "friendship" this week - and I was devastated. He has been coming and going for a while now, though, and it appears that he finally decided to disappear.

I want to apologize again for my whining and my ranting. Maybe closure will come with time. For now, I just need to get out more and focus more on the things that I can control (and he isn't one of them at all).

posted July 29, 2014 06:06 PM            

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Originally posted by sc0rpioRising:
I have been there.. trust me I have.. and its living torture.. esp when someone can easily walk in.
And the walk out... but please believe me it WILL get better.. u will get over this... and u will move on.. and u will be stronger than ever. For now.. dont focus on him.. cos he is focussing on himself.. you focus on u.. do things thay make u happy.. be with people who lift u.. ubdeserve happiness .. and life is too short to be hung up on someone who doesnt feel the same.. go amd live ur life happily... !

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Thank you. It has been a week of ZERO contact now, although he had been slowing down his emails / texts / calls over the last month. I am still struggling and can't believe that he is out there somewhere, not even sparing me a thought. Wish I could be so happy and don't - care, too.