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Wild Horses
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posted July 22, 2014 06:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, I'm just obsessing over my Obsession, and I'm starting to think that the reason the pull feels so, so , so , so strong is because of these Tri-Level aspects between our charts. I'm not sure if that's the proper term, but I'll use it for now because I don't know what else to call it. A lot of the aspects in our charts, especially between the personal planets or lights, are aspecting on three levels of regular conjunction, antiscion or contra-antiscion conjunction, and parallel or contraparallel. At first I thought they were just so tightly parallel because they are conjunct, but I found other conjunctions that were very tight conjunctions, but not parallel. So, I did not find that a regular conjunction automatically results in a parallel in the declinations.

Some of the aspects are only bi-level, like -his Moon-my Moon parallel 0°
-his Aries Moon-my Virgo Moon conj. antiscia 1°

There are these other aspects, though, that are connected tri-level:

In Synastry:
-his Cancer Venus- my Gem Sun conj. antiscia 1°
-his Cancer Venus- my Gem Venus conj. antiscia 2°
-his Venus-Mars midpoint- my Venus-Mars midpoint conj. antiscia 0°.
-His Nessus conj. my Venus-Mars midpoint 0°
-My Nessus conj. his Venus-Mars midpoint 0°
And these are conj. antiscia of each other 0°

The parallels and contras:
His Venus 21°41'N
His Mars 21°46'N
My Venus 21°41'N
My Mars 22°34'N
His POF 22°21'N
My Sun 23°25'N
His Jup. 22°59'N
My Jup. 23°10'S
His IC 21°54'S
My AC 21°14'N
HisValen. 21° 7'N
My Valen. 20°17'N
His Nept. 20°56'S

... and there are others, too.

-His Venus and Jupiter also conjunct my Sun and Venus.
-Our Mars and Venus do not conjunct by degree, they are only in the same signs, but it's both ways. His Mars/My Venus in Gemini and My Mars/His Venus in Cancer. I think them being Parallel so tightly makes them feel stronger to me, though.

-Our AC/DC-MC/IC axis angles are conjunct and parallel.

In the Composite:
There's a cluster of
Mars @ Cancer 2°39'
Moon @ Cancer 1°07'
Venus @ Gem. 28°32'

They are all conjunct each other. Plus,
Mars-Venus also conj. Antiscion 0°
Moon-Venus conj. Antiscion 0°

All parallel in declinations-
Mars 23°25'N
Moon 23°26'N
Venus 23°26'N

Not only are they conjunct, antiscion conj., and parallel, but they all are sitting right in the same early Cancer/late Gem spot as the cluster of his Venus-Jupiter conj. my Sun-Venus in our natals, which are also conj., antiscion conj. and parallel.

This makes me think I may be feeling this so deeply, and at a strength like nothing I've ever felt before, because there are these multiple layers and depths of aspect interaction.

Does anyone else who's had something similar with someone think it made the energy feel so much more amplified and unshakeable than anything else you've ever felt? Do you think the multiple levels of aspects in both the synastry and composite could be the reason for the extreme amplification of the energy?

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IndigoDirae
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posted July 23, 2014 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tend to call those 'super conjunctions', and yes, I ALWAYS pay attention to them.

Sometimes I can feel a man's EROS parallel my PSYCHE even more than a square, or even a man's PSYCHE conjunct my EROS.

One of the most intense relationships of my life has many aspects by declination. Especially our 'thematic' points and timers. Those are emphatically felt and always featuring in the progressions, multi-composites and transits.

Check for cusp parallels, too. Those 8C parallels to a ruler of a romantic house are quite a doozy.

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Wild Horses
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posted July 23, 2014 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I tend to call those 'super conjunctions', and yes, I ALWAYS pay attention to them.

Sometimes I can feel a man's EROS parallel my PSYCHE even more than a square, or even a man's PSYCHE conjunct my EROS.

One of the most intense relationships of my life has many aspects by declination. Especially our 'thematic' points and timers. Those are emphatically felt and always featuring in the progressions, multi-composites and transits.

Check for cusp parallels, too. Those 8C parallels to a ruler of a romantic house are quite a doozy.



Super Conjunction. I like that term. Sounds better than Tri-Level.

I once had a Mars-Venus 0° DW conjunction with a man. I won't downplay it. There was a VOLCANIC level of heat generated.

This. This feels even stronger than that felt. We only have a sign conjunction DW of Mars-Venus. They don't even touch by degree orb. Those super, super tight parallels, though, are what I'm beginning to think are making it feel even hotter than the 0° DW I had in the past.

Plus, I've also started to think the Nessus on Venus-Mars midpoint 0° DW is causing the attraction to feel so consuming. All I usually see about Nessus are things related to abuse, but there is no chance he and I are going to sexually abuse or damage each other. So, there has to be something else to Nessus sexually.

KarkaQueen had some great comments on it in the thread I made about it. She said, "Nessus is like a dark cloud absorbing both of the people's pure sexual energies, rendering them completely vulnerable and helpless to these taboo yet exciting temptation that looms between them. They find themselves pull with each other and at constant war with each other despite the present circumstance, and are never on equal footing but that is thrill. They completely ravish each other, prey on both each other's defenses and always try to keep their guard up yet chase after one another.
That should be the main point in your relationship, themes of abuse, domination, sexual control, taboo, primal urges..."

That made a lot of sense and describes a lot of what I feel.

I remember you recommending to check Priapus on that thread, too, and I took your advice. I found his Priapus on my Jupiter 0°. There's also a Yod formed with my Lilith on his Uranus (5thHR) sextile his Priapus on my Jupiter. They both form the Yod with his Lilith in his 8th house at the Apex. My Priapus is in his 8th close to his Lilith, but 5°, so, too wide for a conjunction. I'll admit, that Yod sounds highly sexual with the Apex on his 8th house Lilith, but since I don't really understand how Priapus acts, I'm not sure how to interpret it.

I have no idea what his Priapus conj. my Jupiter 0° means, either. Is Priapus sexually positive or negative?

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