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LeeLoo2014
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posted July 22, 2014 08:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are your personal experiences/thoughts?

Mars is the man, Neptune the woman.

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posted July 22, 2014 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes we have that (me neptune). This opp. is the back of our cradle, as I already have a natal 'minor grand trine' myself natally (with Neptune-Jupiter/Pluto/Venus).

- my Venus 29'51 Cancer
- my Pluto 27'43 Virgo
- my Jupiter 26'39 Scorp
- my Neptune 0'20 Sag

- his Mars 28'18 Taurus
- his Chiron 25'50 Cancer
- his Saturn 24'45 Cap
- his NN 28'15 Cap

(- my Vesta 27'30 Cap)

(- his Sun 1'23 Cap)

(- my MC 24'53 Taurus)

(bit of a passed station this all for me, but I thought you would like it).

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posted July 22, 2014 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IntuitiveJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
What are your personal experiences/thoughts?

Mars is the man, Neptune the woman.


I have this.
He is neptune, I am mars.
I was thinking about this one the other day wondering how it plays out. Curious to read responses

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LeeLoo2014
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posted July 22, 2014 12:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
Yes we have that (me neptune). This opp. is the back of our cradle, as I already have a natal 'minor grand trine' myself natally (with Neptune-Jupiter/Pluto/Venus).

- my Venus 29'51 Cancer
- my Pluto 27'43 Virgo
- my Jupiter 26'39 Scorp
- my Neptune 0'20 Sag

- his Mars 28'18 Taurus
- his Chiron 25'50 Cancer
- his Saturn 24'45 Cap
- his NN 28'15 Cap

(- my Vesta 27'30 Cap)

(- his Sun 1'23 Cap)

(- my MC 24'53 Taurus)

(bit of a passed station this all for me, but I thought you would like it).


Nice aspects you have here. How do you feel Mars/Neptune?

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posted July 22, 2014 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have had this... It makes sexuality somewhat challenging. Neptune may idealize or look up to Mars, admire Mars' sexuality and assertive nature, but can easily become nervous about how direct and straightforward Mars is since Neptune does not have those qualities. Neptune can become deceitful and play mind games in order to capture Mars' interest. Sexuality will be gentle, dreamy and romantic with a touch of assertion and power from Mars, but Mars will still treat Neptune like a princess/prince.

I have been Mars and it is not an easy aspect because of the lack of straightforward communication and unrealistic facets to the relationship that exist.

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posted July 22, 2014 02:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love that description.


Well we do not have the opposition, but the square.

my Neptune, his Mars (orb: 1°09)

though I supopose we have to take the whole T-square nto consideration


my Neptune 10 Sag
my NN 10 Sag
his Mercury 9 Sag
my ASC 7 Sag

his Mars 11 Virgo
his Jupiter 10 Virgo

my Jupiter 11 Pisces.


I don`t know how he experiences it, but while I am fascinated, intrigued with him, what I could never wrap my mind around was how elusive I act around him, that was extreme, even for me (I do have the tendency to disappear sometimes; even friends complain about that occasionally, that when they are with me somewhere, I will see something that interest me and just stop to look at it, but not telling them, or switch to their other side, unseen, and it confuses them sometimes, as I seem to have gone for a moment, I improved though. Except in relationt o him. lol)


Anyway I suppose that elusive behavour of mine can be explained by me being Neptune.
Still I am very intrigued by him, and he?
Well he said I drive him crazy.
Maybe he was also indicating that "here now, gone the next second" style I seem to have. lol

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posted July 22, 2014 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, he's very assertive. More than I ever thought I could handle. Clearly not one of the innumerable sweet guys I could overrule.
But.. this assertiveness has 2 faces. One is clearly THE ASSERTIVENESS we all talk about (surface assert.) but the other one is more hidden, more overlooked, more taboo, more unacceptable and at the same time a big confro with all the games we might - knowingly or otherwise - play.
An assertiveness which brings us to the deepest core of ourselves. An assertiveness which is generally called (conditioned as we are) "escapism" and terms of that order.
The very least blame/reprimand/mind-game adressed to Mars will be answered by nothing but dead silence. Yes, that's the other assertive face of Mars with Neptune. Neptune becomes aware of her own inner demons. There's progress, clearly.

I couldn't find better words.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted July 23, 2014 05:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like this idea you both described, Ceri and Mir: Mars (because of its direct nature, perhaps) makes Neptune become aware of their Neptunian side. I thinks this happens because of the antagonism between these two planets. I'm thinking the other way around must work too: faced with Neptune, Mars feels how assertive, Martian, direct etc. he can become.

I'm thinking a woman's Neptune confronted with a man's Mars must make the woman feel very feminine in a damsel in distress/alluring deceiving mermaid/untouchable virgin lol kind of way and the man must feel very masculine and Martian and direct and sexually aroused by the woman's Neptunian side.

Is that so, Ceri, Mir and everyone else?

Who idealizes who in your opposition, Mir?

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LeeLoo2014
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posted February 14, 2015 07:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump for more opinions

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posted February 14, 2015 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 14, 2015 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let me think about it.

I have it with my current partner, and off the top of my head, what Faith quoted seems fairly accurate, although something doesn't quite fit.

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posted February 15, 2015 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haven't heard anything about lies and deception. Neptune is no softy, if Mars becomes too much Neptune will simply blow smoke in his eyes. Agree to everything/like Pisces, then proceed to do whatever they want.

Mars wants to assert the ego. Neptune wants to dissolve the ego.

If Neptune has a lot of feminine planets, she will simply become a burden/sick/helpless to mars until he gives in. If Neptune has a lot of masculine planets, she will simply do what she wants and lie about it.

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posted February 15, 2015 10:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
I have this natally, so I've had it with everyone in my age range.

Let me check cafeastrology...

Yeah that sounds familiar

Though I was only ever addicted to one person.


Hi, Faith, and thanks

Are you a Gemini Mars? If so, that's the same aspect. He is Mars, I am Neptune.

Give me some tips about Gemini Mars, please.

I'm sorry to see cafe astrology and most people are so fearful of Neptune lol This looks like a fascinating aspect, I would love to hear something about the good side.

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LeeLoo2014
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Originally posted by Nine:
Haven't heard anything about lies and deception. Neptune is no softy, if Mars becomes too much Neptune will simply blow smoke in his eyes. Agree to everything/like Pisces, then proceed to do whatever they want.

Mars wants to assert the ego. Neptune wants to dissolve the ego.

If Neptune has a lot of feminine planets, she will simply become a burden/sick/helpless to mars until he gives in. If Neptune has a lot of masculine planets, she will simply do what she wants and lie about it.


Being an opposition, I am thinking if this is not an intangibility aspect.

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posted February 15, 2015 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^I don't get it.

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I have that all the time, my mars is in gemini and so the neptune of a generation opposes my mars.

On the one hand people/men can become quite enthusiastic about me, on the other hand people espc men tend to rank me not truthfully (my sun conj asc aspect smoothes that challenge).

I once had a guy's mars opposite my neptune; after a while I felt like cheated, I was like "he's not the guy I though he'd be"

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posted February 15, 2015 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't write this...
http://www.lipstickalley.com/showthread.php/1141717-Drama-at-Lindaland-and-your-fave-racist-astrologer-Ami-Anne-is-in-the-middle-of-it

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posted February 15, 2015 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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LeeLoo2014
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posted February 15, 2015 01:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
^^I don't get it.


Neptune is a bit intangible, unavailable, unattainable for Mars. Of course, this could be enticing

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Originally posted by Enneline:
I have that all the time, my mars is in gemini and so the neptune of a generation opposes my mars.

On the one hand people/men can become quite enthusiastic about me, on the other hand people espc men tend to rank me not truthfully (my sun conj asc aspect smoothes that challenge).
I once had a guy's mars opposite my neptune; after a while I felt like cheated, I was like "he's not the guy I though he'd be"



How would you describe your Mars, sweet Enneline?

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posted February 15, 2015 01:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
It's hard for me to nail it down since my Venus is also conjunct Neptune...so, if I dated someone my age, it was part Venus-Neptune and part Mars-Neptune.

Positively I think I had more attractive appeal than my looks warranted...negatively it seemed to set me up for an inevitable fall from grace...followed by the men boomeranging back to me over and over for years, as they tried to figure out what I was, and what "we" were about.


Niiiice! The change of pace, the restlessness, totally infused with Mercury then. You forgot the sense of humor I can feel it in you.

Did it happen for you not to be taken seriously, to be considered fickle or untrustworthy because of the playful energy of this Mars? (without it being the case)

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posted February 15, 2015 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was thinking about neptune the other day and honestly saturn and pluto have a bad reputation in synastry but they're "real" while neptune (and uranus) can be such difficult planet to deal with!
Neptune seems good only when paired with neptune, in other case, it's almost always deception and a case of disillusion.

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Originally posted by ueharaa:
I was thinking about neptune the other day and honestly saturn and pluto have a bad reputation in synastry but they're "real" while neptune (and uranus) can be such difficult planet to deal with!
Neptune seems good only when paired with neptune, in other case, it's almost always deception and a case of disillusion.


That's a weird thing to say, really Neptune: art and creativity, imagination, unconditional love, spirituality, inspiration, faith, healing, ideals, invisible, psychic, soulmates, ocean of feelings, fantasy, fairy tales, magic, illusion (why does creating illusions have to be something bad? it's part of any artistic or seductive attempt), being high, orgasm, music, dreams, gentleness, tantra, poetry, beauty, seeing inner beauty, beautifying reality (deception goes here as well, but for those who practice lying), sacrifice, cleansing, dissolving materiality, anti-matter, rejecting materialism, neverending etc etc This is what Neptune brings in relationships.

It's strange that whenever a Neptune thread is started, people immediate think deception, lies, disappointment. It's kind of weird, actually.


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posted February 15, 2015 03:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

How would you describe your Mars, sweet Enneline?



Wants an intelectual guy, even for sex; feelings/passion can come and fade aways quickly

Mars opp Neptune can lead to violence & deception

As i said my mars opposes the neptune of a generation and squares a lot of venuses of many generations....attraction, crushes and disappointment without end are the keywords

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Wants an intelectual guy, even for sex; feelings/passion can come and fade aways quickly

Mars opp Neptune can lead to violence & deception

As i said my mars opposes the neptune of a generation and squares a lot of venuses of many generations....attraction, crushes and disappointment without end are the keywords


feelings/passion can come and fade aways quickly
this sounds more like your Aries Moon, maybe?

OK then...what are the good things this aspect brought to you, things that couldn't have been possible without it?

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