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Topic: Sun Opposition Saturn in synastry? glue or disaster?
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Anisa Knowflake Posts: 176 From: United States Registered: Jan 2014
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posted July 25, 2014 10:18 AM
I read that this aspect (or any personal planet in aspect to Saturn) is common in married couples as Saturn is about long endurance. Also heard Saturn can be a wet blanket to the sun person.What are your experiences/thoughts on this? Can it make a relationship last even w difficult aspects like Neptune Sq Venus or pluto Sq merc? IP: Logged |
Anisa Knowflake Posts: 176 From: United States Registered: Jan 2014
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posted July 25, 2014 10:39 AM
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Anisa Knowflake Posts: 176 From: United States Registered: Jan 2014
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posted July 25, 2014 11:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by Anisa:
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margym0o Knowflake Posts: 1230 From: The Great White North Registered: Jul 2014
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posted July 25, 2014 11:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by Anisa: I read that this aspect (or any personal planet in aspect to Saturn) is common in married couples as Saturn is about long endurance. Also heard Saturn can be a wet blanket to the sun person.What are your experiences/thoughts on this? Can it make a relationship last even w difficult aspects like Neptune Sq Venus or pluto Sq merc?
I had this aspect in 1 of 4 of my long-term relationships. I had a bond with him that I haven't had with anyone else. It was definitely my 'easiest' relationship in that we were the best of friends. I cannot speak to the 'glue' aspect of Saturn because obviously that relationship ended, but that was because we ultimately were very different people and were not on the same wave-length in a lot of areas. I can however attest to what I have read about you not being able to completely forget someone you have had a Saturn aspect with. He and I have managed to stay friendly with a great deal of respect for each other post-break up and though I am no longer in love with him, I still reflect back fondly on some memories we share. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 unregistered
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posted July 25, 2014 11:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by margym0o: I had this aspect in 1 of 4 of my long-term relationships. I had a bond with him that I haven't had with anyone else. It was definitely my 'easiest' relationship in that we were the best of friends. I cannot speak to the 'glue' aspect of Saturn because obviously that relationship ended, but that was because we ultimately were very different people and were not on the same wave-length in a lot of areas. I can however attest to what I have read about you not being able to completely forget someone you have had a Saturn aspect with. He and I have managed to stay friendly with a great deal of respect for each other post-break up and though I am no longer in love with him, I still reflect back fondly on some memories we share.
Were you Sun or Saturn? ------------------
I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 7802 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted July 25, 2014 12:11 PM
Glue. And its not a disaster. I have it in my synastry. Better if Saturn is the female.IP: Logged |
Anisa Knowflake Posts: 176 From: United States Registered: Jan 2014
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posted July 25, 2014 12:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Were you Sun or Saturn?
I want to know this as well
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Anisa Knowflake Posts: 176 From: United States Registered: Jan 2014
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posted July 25, 2014 12:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: Glue. And its not a disaster. I have it in my synastry. Better if Saturn is the female.
Guess it depends on the rest of the chart. Does Saturn come up often for you? I'm the sun in this case, and he's the Saturn but he's got moon sq Uranus and that's the opposite of long endurance lol IP: Logged |
margym0o Knowflake Posts: 1230 From: The Great White North Registered: Jul 2014
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posted July 25, 2014 12:37 PM
I was the Sun. It was a very tight aspect too. I didn't really see him as "wet blanket" per se, though I guess when I think about it he was 'restrictive' in a lot of ways - got jealous very easily, and I very much felt like his 'mother' towards the end, always doing all of the thinking for him and I instead of it being a team effort. He did love me with all he had though, and is a true good soul. We rarely argued and I felt very comfortable with him.It's strange when I look at our synastry because we have nearly all squares and oppositions save for a Venus trine Mars and Venus sextile Jupiter. Our overall chart and house aspects must play a bigger part. Edit to add: To clarify 'rarely argued' - we definitely had our fair share of disagreements on issues, and he had very stubborn opinions on a lot of different topics, but I think we were both so laid back and non-confrontational it never escalated to full-blown argument. We would say what we needed to say and then one of us would either bend for the other or we'd both just drop the subject. IP: Logged |
Anisa Knowflake Posts: 176 From: United States Registered: Jan 2014
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posted July 25, 2014 12:37 PM
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geminigal2805 Knowflake Posts: 1436 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted July 25, 2014 01:34 PM
Saturn in Libra opposes my husband's Sun in Aries!IP: Logged |
WhyMe Knowflake Posts: 124 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted July 25, 2014 09:14 PM
How does Sun quindecile Saturn work ? Is it the same as Sun opposite Saturn ?IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion Moderator Posts: 2427 From: PA, USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted July 25, 2014 11:28 PM
I have this with someone I currently like but the relationship is not serious yet... so I can't say whether it's been like 'glue' for me. However, I firmly believe that Saturn in synastry alters the planet it touches. When someone's Saturn hits one of your personal planets, that planet is going to be forced to re-examine itself, develop, and evolve in the direction that Saturn is pushing it. Your planet and the areas of the house it is in will either accept these karmic lessons or reject them. Hypothetical examples: Sun in Aries opposes Saturn in Libra. The Sun in Aries person will be pushed to integrate ego with serious relationships. The person may have a very strong ego that is to the detriment of his/her relationships, so person B's Saturn challenges that. Venus in Pisces opposes someone's Saturn in Virgo. Venus in Pisces may be too dreamy, idyllic, and head-in-the-clouds for a real romance to ever develop; Saturn in Virgo challenges the impractical nature of this by pushing Venus to remain altruistic while getting real and seeing things for how they are. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 unregistered
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posted July 26, 2014 06:25 AM
quote: Originally posted by sweet-scorpion: I have this with someone I currently like but the relationship is not serious yet... so I can't say whether it's been like 'glue' for me. However, I firmly believe that Saturn in synastry alters the planet it touches. When someone's Saturn hits one of your personal planets, that planet is going to be forced to re-examine itself, develop, and evolve in the direction that Saturn is pushing it. Your planet and the areas of the house it is in will either accept these karmic lessons or reject them. Hypothetical examples: Sun in Aries opposes Saturn in Libra. The Sun in Aries person will be pushed to integrate ego with serious relationships. The person may have a very strong ego that is to the detriment of his/her relationships, so person B's Saturn challenges that. Venus in Pisces opposes someone's Saturn in Virgo. Venus in Pisces may be too dreamy, idyllic, and head-in-the-clouds for a real romance to ever develop; Saturn in Virgo challenges the impractical nature of this by pushing Venus to remain altruistic while getting real and seeing things for how they are.
Yep. Saturn is a teacher. He also forces the other person to take responsibility for what they are or do. It brings the lesson: "you reap what you sow". ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
LucieLemonade Knowflake Posts: 1592 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted July 27, 2014 04:20 PM
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Astro keen unregistered
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posted July 27, 2014 04:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by sweet-scorpion: I have this with someone I currently like but the relationship is not serious yet... so I can't say whether it's been like 'glue' for me. However, I firmly believe that Saturn in synastry alters the planet it touches. When someone's Saturn hits one of your personal planets, that planet is going to be forced to re-examine itself, develop, and evolve in the direction that Saturn is pushing it. Your planet and the areas of the house it is in will either accept these karmic lessons or reject them. Hypothetical examples: Sun in Aries opposes Saturn in Libra. The Sun in Aries person will be pushed to integrate ego with serious relationships. The person may have a very strong ego that is to the detriment of his/her relationships, so person B's Saturn challenges that. Venus in Pisces opposes someone's Saturn in Virgo. Venus in Pisces may be too dreamy, idyllic, and head-in-the-clouds for a real romance to ever develop; Saturn in Virgo challenges the impractical nature of this by pushing Venus to remain altruistic while getting real and seeing things for how they are.
SS, It's good to get different views on Saturn - we now have quite a few as Saturn seems to be the topic of the day. Actually some of these sound contradictory to me. So, clarity is sorely needed. We have: Saturn the karmic influence The glue The teacher/disciplinarian The anxious neurotic who seeks to control in order to deal with his/her own fears Methinks we need a SATURN thread for the LL Ref Library. Was wondering if you would like to put one together - basically, it would mean selecting views from various threads on LL as well as yours so that it forms a coherent whole. Does that sound like a terribly exciting and irresistible proposition to you? IP: Logged |
Enneline unregistered
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posted July 27, 2014 05:40 PM
It depends. A person whose chart proves his independence and/or has no significant Saturn placements would probably dislike having Saturn on a personal planet or angle. That person would be okay with soft Saturn aspects only.A person who has significant Saturn placements in his chart would not mind having someone else Saturn on an important spot. etc. IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion Moderator Posts: 2427 From: PA, USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted July 27, 2014 08:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by Astro keen: SS,It's good to get different views on Saturn - we now have quite a few as Saturn seems to be the topic of the day. Actually some of these sound contradictory to me. So, clarity is sorely needed. We have: Saturn the karmic influence The glue The teacher/disciplinarian The anxious neurotic who seeks to control in order to deal with his/her own fears Methinks we need a SATURN thread for the LL Ref Library. Was wondering if you would like to put one together - basically, it would mean selecting views from various threads on LL as well as yours so that it forms a coherent whole. Does that sound like a terribly exciting and irresistible proposition to you?
Thanks for selecting me for the task. I can do this for you, sure! More than happy to help. IP: Logged |
fireopal09 Knowflake Posts: 760 From: George Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 27, 2014 08:33 PM
Look at the natals to see if you both have learned have learned the lessons. I really don't see oppositions as "bad" it is another axis; thus, requires balance. It can be done.------------------ Claire "When going gets weird, the weird turn pro." -HST IP: Logged |
Astro keen unregistered
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posted July 28, 2014 05:45 AM
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ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 5258 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted October 19, 2020 10:04 AM
Is this aspect binding?IP: Logged |
efaki94 Knowflake Posts: 129 From: thessaloniki,greece Registered: Jun 2020
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posted October 19, 2020 04:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by ChildofVenus: Is this aspect binding?
Dont know if it's binding But I have checked long term couples Having this aspect. I think saturn person tend to Supress a little the sun's personality (from my experience)
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MMarie Knowflake Posts: 1042 From: Registered: Aug 2018
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posted October 19, 2020 04:58 PM
What if Saturn conjunct Sun in Capricorn? Would the sun person not mind another’s Saturn there because their sun is ruled by Saturn and would they in fact like it? IP: Logged |