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Wild Horses
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posted July 26, 2014 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, the situation is that I've been ducking and dodging meeting him for over 2 years. I first fell for him in February 2012, then, after almost a year of deep denial, and fighting with myself futilely, I couldn't lie to myself anymore. So, in January 2013 I finally admitted to myself that I was deeply in love with him.

During that time, I had many opportunities to meet him, and I actually was canceling plans that I had to attend events that he would also be at just to avoid being introduced to him. I simply was NOT ready to actually talk to him and interact with him and I knew it. The attraction I had for him was too deep, too intense, and too hot for me to handle. I had to take a long time to get a grip on myself before I actually had a one-on-one conversation with him.

The other problem I had was the fact that we will be primarily interacting at charity events... fund raisers, community events, etc. So, when we are introduced for the first time, it will be in a social setting with lots of other eyes and ears around. It won't always be like that. There will be times when we will be able to interact privately, but that won't happen initially. When we are first introduced, it will be anything but private. That has me worried about being able to maintain my composure. I HAVE to and I KNOW it because I refuse to make a fool of myself in front of him because I admire and respect him too much for that.

I'm at the point now where I feel like I may be ready to actually talk to him without losing my senses, so this has my mind chewing on the whole idea of the First Meeting Chart. I've read some people say that it is hugely important, that the moment when two people actually lock eyes for the first time and actually meet each other face to face is such a crucial moment that the chart of that moment is extremely meaningful.

I've started trying to learn about Electional Astrology for important moments and events. I feel like it's a great gift to be able to plan a First Meeting and to have the chance to choose the best time for it to have a nice First Meeting Chart. I know some may think it's going overboard, but I figure why not plan the best time to meet. It can't hurt... It can only help.

The gist of it is that I can pretty much be introduced to him whenever I choose, but some times are definitely better than others. Due to the nature of his career, there are some times when he is way too busy and under way, way too much pressure to try to launch a relationship. There are other times when his load is lighter, though, and those would be better.

Another thing is that I'm not in a rush. I can meet him next month or next year, even longer if need be. He has been very personally involved with this charity for over 10 years and has said he plans on being very personally involved with it for the rest of his life. So, I'll have tons and tons of time to meet him and be around him. I'd rather make the right plans at the right time than rush things, so if a First Meeting Chart for the near term future is horrible, then I can wait till it isn't horrible. He isn't going anywhere and neither am I.

There are some Progessions coming up in our Progessed Charts that do look promising, but they seem to indicate that if anything serious takes off, it might not be for a few years anyway. I'd like to meet him before then, though, to at least enjoy a friendship and actually work together on fund raising events and spend time around him getting too know him better.

If the Progressed synastry aspects like pr. Venus conj. pr. Mars, pr. Venus conj. n.Venus, pr. Sun conj. pr. Moon, pr.Sun conj. n.Moon, etc. actually do trigger a romantic relationship, then us having gotten to know each other first will be all the better.

My problem is... Electional Astrology is a daunting subject. What is the best way to go about planning a First Meeting Chart? I would love it if anyone who knows anything about First Meeting Charts and has used them or worked with them can offer any tips, advice, or tidbits of info.

What would the ideal First Meeting Chart look like?

If you could plan the perfect First Meeting Chart, then what would it look like?

If you could have planned your First Meeting with the one you love, what would you want the chart to look like? What would you change from the chart you actually have?

I know every little tiny aspect of the chart can't be planned, but whatever can be can be.

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KarmicMoon
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posted July 26, 2014 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarmicMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The beauty of a first meeting chart is the universe plans it. It is my nature to want to control everything, too, so I do understand where you are coming from but you just can't plan for everything. I don't believe progressions and transits always work out like we think they will. You can drive yourself crazy with this stuff (trust me I know). You can be so fixated on something that the energy becomes locked up. I'm not judging you but speaking from experience. Trying to control things we don't completely understand could backfire. Let things unfold naturally and trust that the universe is taking care of the situation for the best of everyone involved. Just my opinion. I hope everything works out for you.

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Astro keen
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posted July 26, 2014 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WH,

You are putting the cart before the horse (no pun intended). Exactly as KM suggests - leave it to the universe. There is nothing to be planned except not deny a meeting. If your relationship must be life-changing then the meeting will be synched, without any effort on your part.

See what the universe brings to you. You may indeed be surprised. It may be 'normal' and not as dramatic as you imagine.

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Wild Horses
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posted July 26, 2014 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, you guys are opposed to Electional Astrology in general? Like, if a couple were planning their wedding, and wanted to choose a nice date that didn't include an applying Saturn square to Venus or Moon, or if they wanted to avoid having Uranus exactly squaring Sun or Venus in their wedding chart, you would think they should ignore that? I'll just have to respectfully disagree on that.

I know we can't control everything, but the things we can control, well, why not? I mean, I'd like to avoid an ugly applying Saturn or Uranus square to a personal planet or angle of a First Meeting Chart since I have the choice of when I can meet him. I'm not opposed to Electional Astrology at all. I mean, if we wanna say don't think about it at all and just blindly let the universe handle it, why would anyone ever look at transits, or why would anyone care about Void of Course Moons, or Mercury retrograde, etc. I believe in taking whatever measures are in your power to take, and then letting go and letting God.

I understand that everyone doesn't have the same opinion on Electional Astrology, though, so that's no problem. We all have our different astrological tastes and preferences. That's one of the things that makes Astrology so great... there's a little something for everybody.

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Astro keen
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posted July 26, 2014 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WH
The electional astrology that you speak of is used to time events where Long term choices have already been made. Such as in a marriage, or a move to a house, or starting a new business. It makes sense then to put good influences into place. In contrast, this relationship with a person you haven't yet met is an unknown quantity. You have no idea what form it might take, or even if there will be a relationship when you meet. What you have experienced so far may bear little relation to what emerges when you meet up. Since there are so many unknowns, it seems appropriate not to try and engineer events, but rather to let them unfold as they will. Basically, allow the universe to lead the way. It seems to be leading strongly for you in any case.

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KarmicMoon
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posted July 26, 2014 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarmicMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, i am not opposed to election astrology in general. However, I believe when we pick dates, like when to get married, we are only acting on what the universe already has planned for us. I didn't pick the day that I met my TF but the transits and progressions are amazing. Better than anything I could have possible planned for. I didn't pick the day I met my husband, nor the day we got married because I didn't really know about astrology then and everything worked out just has it was supposed to. Did you consult an astrologer to pick your wedding day? Even if you didn't I'm sure it was a magical day. I know you are worried about how you will act but there isn't any way to control that through astrology. Just know that however you act is exactly how you are supposed to. Maybe if you met him and went into a kundalini rise like you fear, that would be the trigger that reminds him of something. That is how it was supposed to happen all along. There are just to many unknowns. I really hope you know I'm not trying to offend you and of course you can do whatever you want. I just think the universe has this all planned out already and there is nothing you can do to change it. Just go with it. Like AK said, arrange a meeting when it is feels right to you. I look at the progressions happening now for me and it looks great on paper but outwardly nothing is happening. The only thing that is changing is inside me. Whenever I think I am in control the universe does something to show me I am not. Again, I hope you know this message comes without judgement because I relate to your story and I do wish all the best for you.

By the way, I met my TF during an ugly Pluto/Uranus square, Uranus opposition, Neptune square, Pluto transit to his Sun and Uranus transit to his Moon. Transiting Uranus oppose my Uranus and created a Tsquare with transiting Pluto. Transiting uranus also conjunct my Chiron. Transiting Pluto conjunct his Sun and transiting Uranus conjunct his Moon, squaring off.

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Wild Horses
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posted July 26, 2014 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm really giving what you two are saying a lot of thought. I think highly of both of your opinions, so I'm not being flippant with your posts. I'm really thinking about what you're saying and taking it to heart.

Trying to choose the First Meeting Chart wasn't something I had made a hard and fast decision on already. It's just a notion I've been strongly considering. I've got that natal Moon-Pluto conj. 3° in my 3rd house, so whenever it comes to emotional decisions, I can definitely overanalyze and go into research attack mode. On top of that, right now, transit Pluto is opposite my natal Mercury 0°, so I've been overthinking absolutely everything.

I guess it would just be best to take it out of my own hands completely and let the mutual friends who will be introducing us choose when to introduce us. That way, at least I won't go crazy trying to play God and pick the perfect moment. I'll just tell them pick the date, and, then... whatever is meant to be will be.

Thank you two for talking me out of going down that rabbit hole. Knowing myself the way I do, I would have just ended up with analysis paralysis anyway.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted July 27, 2014 04:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great posts, Astro Keen and Karmic Moon I fully agree.

I wanted to add a life changing FM most of the times has some important outer hard aspects to personal planets or angles, definitely at least one heavy square (for the impact and the turning point potential). And the FM is usually very "red". The planet is personalized for the people in questions: for example, it may be Venus square Saturn, but Saturn is your DSC ruler, which gives this square a different meaning for you.

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