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starrynight
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posted July 29, 2014 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starrynight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All my recent threads are about sex. xD

What I'm getting at: we are always told that a guy's Venus roughly represents his perfect woman, his anima, thus, a male Venus conjunct female Sun is like whoa, wow and omg.

But if his Mars doesn't contact her personal planets, is it going to be a warm friendly feeling without any sexual attraction? Because the genderless intepretation of Venus conj/trine Sun is exactly this, a lot of warm fuzzies and "wow they are so cute" but no passion whatsoever.

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posted July 29, 2014 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MagnumJoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course it's sexy.

I call this aspect: The Making Out Aspect. It's not about sex, but it's about cuddling and making out. Which will easily lead to that

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posted July 29, 2014 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WhyMe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about male Venus tightly square female Sun ? Is that a cuddling / make out aspect, too ?

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posted July 29, 2014 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MagnumJoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by WhyMe:
What about male Venus tightly square female Sun ? Is that a cuddling / make out aspect, too ?

I don't know you are male or female, but you know when you see a girl that you think is beautiful, but provocative?

That's it.

How does it play out?

It has a bit of roughhousing and aggressive cuddling. Sun girl will be like:"You are too mushy" and the Venus guy will be like:"Stand down!" And then comes the friction. Depending on other aspects, it could play out really fun, or really annoying.

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posted July 29, 2014 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WhyMe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MagnumJoe:
I don't know you are male or female, but you know when you see a girl that you think is beautiful, but provocative?

That's it.

How does it play out?

It has a bit of roughhousing and aggressive cuddling. Sun girl will be like:"You are too mushy" and the Venus guy will be like:"Stand down!" And then comes the friction. Depending on other aspects, it could play out really fun, or really annoying.


I am a woman. So, this is an aggressive aspect ? Who is the aggressor / source of friction ? The Sun female ?

Can this aspect in synastry lead to antagonism between the two people involved ?

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posted July 29, 2014 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starrynight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, what aspect of Venus to Sun would make one person consider the other totally unattractive? Like you know, when you see this person, they are not ugly or anything, they might be even conventionally pretty, but you are like "nope, never"? Would an opposition work that way? Or like when there is a celebrity everyone thinks is hot and you have no idea why anyone would consider them hot, they are totally plain and unattractive to you.

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posted July 29, 2014 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MagnumJoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by WhyMe:
I am a woman. So, this is an aggressive aspect ? Who is the aggressor / source of friction ? The Sun female ?

Can this aspect in synastry lead to antagonism between the two people involved ?


Not really "aggressive" but has friction. Both will be uncomfortable. The sun girl will feel too overshowered and the venus guy will feel she is too flighty. But there is attraction, and it will lead to closeness.

And "antagonism" really depends on the rest of the chart. On its own, no, it's just a fun but a bit bumpy aspect.

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posted July 29, 2014 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WhyMe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starrynight:
Hmm, what aspect of Venus to Sun would make one person consider the other totally unattractive? Like you know, when you see this person, they are not ugly or anything, they might be even conventionally pretty, but you are like "nope, never"? Would an opposition work that way? Or like when there is a celebrity everyone thinks is hot and you have no idea why anyone would consider them hot, they are totally plain and unattractive to you.

A quincunx, maybe, between the two charts could make the two people NOT attracted to each other, ("not my type", so to speak), despite great individual beauty ?

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posted July 29, 2014 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starrynight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MagnumJoe:
Not really "aggressive" but has friction. Both will be uncomfortable. The sun girl will feel too overshowered and the venus guy will feel she is too flighty. But there is attraction, and it will lead to closeness.

And "antagonism" really depends on the rest of the chart. On its own, no, it's just a fun but a bit bumpy aspect.



Oh, by the way, what do you think is the difference between this and a Venus - Mars square? With the dynamic attraction and all?

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posted July 29, 2014 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MagnumJoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starrynight:
Hmm, what aspect of Venus to Sun would make one person consider the other totally unattractive? Like you know, when you see this person, they are not ugly or anything, they might be even conventionally pretty, but you are like "nope, never"? Would an opposition work that way? Or like when there is a celebrity everyone thinks is hot and you have no idea why anyone would consider them hot, they are totally plain and unattractive to you.

I think there has to be many bad aspects that you really can't see anything good. Also it depends on what aspects fit you. For me, i don't want my mars with a gurl's venus, i like a mars-moon DW.

It differs.

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posted July 29, 2014 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MagnumJoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quincunx:

Aspect of indifference, true: not even bad attraction.

Mars sq. Venus:

That's really different. In this aspect, is the typical "Bimbo sl*t/Assh*le jock" combo.

The guy feels he really despizes the girl, and doesn't appreciate her femininity, but attracted and kinda wants to punish her femininity with his mars

And the girl feels the guy is a jerk or sometimes a sissy and wants to use him. This aspect is sex for sex only.

You know like a scene in a movie where a guy and a girl are annoying each other physically and verbally, then it explodes into hot sex on the floor? That's it

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posted July 29, 2014 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WhyMe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MagnumJoe:
Quincunx:

Aspect of indifference, true: not even bad attraction.

Mars sq. Venus:

That's really different. In this aspect, is the typical "Bimbo sl*t/Assh*le jock" combo.

The guy feels he really despizes the girl, and doesn't appreciate her femininity, but attracted and kinda wants to punish her femininity with his mars

And the girl feels the guy is a jerk or sometimes a sissy and wants to use him. This aspect is sex for sex only.

You know like a scene in a movie where a guy and a girl are annoying each other physically and verbally, then it explodes into hot sex on the floor? That's it


OMG. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me that this isn't the same thing with a Mars square Moon aspect ? Also, what orbs are we talking about ? Is an orb of 5 or 6 degrees acceptable ?

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posted July 29, 2014 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If Mars doesn't aspect any of her personal planets, sexual attraction is still possible with Planets on the 7th house/Conjunct the Descendant, planets falling in the 5th, 7th or 8th house, venus/pluto aspects or Asc/Asc aspects.

I don't think any Sun/Venus aspect is unattractive so long as it's aspected somehow a form of attraction will exist, it just may not be easy such as a conjunction or trine.

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posted July 29, 2014 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MagnumJoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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OMG. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me that this isn't the same thing with a Mars square Moon aspect ? Also, what orbs are we talking about ? Is an orb of 5 or 6 degrees acceptable ?

No: mars sq. moon is totally different.

Mars person thinks moon person should man up all the time. And might get aggressive and taunting for it. It makes really deep but aggressive sex. The kinda sex where the moon girl would be saying "Ouu you are hurting me!" But she will be deeply satisfied. Also the moon will feel overprotective to mars.

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posted July 29, 2014 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WhyMe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No: mars sq. moon is totally different.

Mars person thinks moon person should man up all the time. And might get aggressive and taunting for it. It makes really deep but aggressive sex. The kinda sex where the moon girl would be saying "Ouu you are hurting me!" But she will be deeply satisfied. Also the moon will feel overprotective to mars.


What orbs are we talking about ?

I have Moon square Mars (6 degrees) with my "friend" who abruptly called off our friendship and vanished into thin air last week. We were PLATONIC FRIENDS although I fell in love eventually. I do feel protective of him and miss him so much. We have his Mars squaring my Moon and opposing my Sun & Mercury (9 and 11 degrees respectively). Finally, my anti-vertex is EXACTLY conjunct his Mars while his anti-vertex conjuncts my Venus (3 degrees).

For him, natally, his Mars also squares his Venus (10 degrees) and Moon (13 degrees).

Are these degrees too wide to have any effect on our synastry ? I found him handsome and aggressive, but in need of some TLC, too (which I was more than prepared to give him). Too bad that he disappeared, though !

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posted July 29, 2014 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starrynight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by WhyMe:
A quincunx, maybe, between the two charts could make the two people NOT attracted to each other, ("not my type", so to speak), despite great individual beauty ?

That's a good theory, thanks!

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Originally posted by MagnumJoe:
You know like a scene in a movie where a guy and a girl are annoying each other physically and verbally, then it explodes into hot sex on the floor? That's it

Lovehate! I always thought it was pretty hot though.

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posted July 29, 2014 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MagnumJoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
9 degrees is enough to make the square between you moon and mars.

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posted July 29, 2014 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MagnumJoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lovehate! I always thought it was pretty hot though.


Everyone agrees it's the hottest

But i love my mars conjuncting a girl's moon, and her mars trine or conjunct mine. WOW! I feel like i wanna completely RAVAGE her

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posted July 29, 2014 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starrynight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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a mars-moon DW.

Never had a Mars-Moon square, but I had Mars trine Moon in synastry twice.

Once I was the Moon. Didn't care for it that much. For some reason I always felt like the guy was... too intent on proving his masculinity to me or something. But his Mars was also squaring my Sun, maybe that's why.

The other time I was the Mars person, and it was awesome.

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posted July 29, 2014 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MagnumJoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Never had a Mars-Moon square, but I had Mars trine Moon in synastry twice.

Once I was the Moon. Didn't care for it that much. For some reason I always felt like the guy was... too intent on proving his masculinity to me or something. But his Mars was also squaring my Sun, maybe that's why.

The other time I was the Mars person, and it was awesome.


The mars guy feels you are too feminine. So he feels he is free to boast himself.

With the moon guy, since girls in general sense the guys's moon, will be treated extra by your mars. Your mars will think he is a cuty, and feels it wants to push him over and get playfully rough. It's nice. I used yo know a girl who was the mars, and i used to tell ger stop acting like a tigress around me She used to treat me roughly but with love.

When my mars conjuncts a girl's moon, i feel she is too feminine to be left alone
I like the feminine moon response in sex. This turns me on a lot. That deep reaction, instinctive behavior which is categorized to me as utterly delicate and feminine, that's the best

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posted July 29, 2014 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What if my Mars (as a female) makes some "sexy" aspects to a few of his personal planets but his Mars makes no "sexy" aspects to mine? Does that make him less sexually attracted to me? Does that make me a dominatrix?

For instance, in our synastry:
My Mars oppose his Sun
My Mars trine his Moon
My Mars square his Mars
My Mars square his Pluto

His Mars square my Mercury
His Mars sextile my Uranus

No Venus/Mars

He has said before that he likes it when I get rough, so I can attest to that. I can also attest to his Venus conjuncting my Sun making us cuddle monsters!!!!

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posted July 30, 2014 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MagnumJoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What if my Mars (as a female) makes some "sexy" aspects to a few of his personal planets but his Mars makes no "sexy" aspects to mine? Does that make him less sexually attracted to me? Does that make me a dominatrix?

For instance, in our synastry:
My Mars oppose his Sun
My Mars trine his Moon
My Mars square his Mars
My Mars square his Pluto

His Mars square my Mercury
His Mars sextile my Uranus

No Venus/Mars

He has said before that he likes it when I get rough, so I can attest to that. I can also attest to his Venus conjuncting my Sun making us cuddle monsters!!!!


Lol.

Being a dominatrix comes from your natal chart

The aspects you have mentioned will make you turn into a soaked sponge around him And you will want, almost always, to initiate things, and become all over him.

And this means all these aspects will fulfill many of his desires, so his attraction to you is not sexual, it's personal. Now here that's a matter if pereference. His ego (sun), his needs (moon), his sexuality (mars) and deep desires (pluto) will be satisfied. Will he be turned and all over you? Not necessarily, but you stir these things deep inside him, that he truly loves your mars: your aggressive side. Maybe he likes things that way, not being turned on perse through his mars, but through all of his entire entity.

And like i said earlier, in sex, i prefer a moon-mars DW over a mars-venus one. It's more of a "soul" sex

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posted July 30, 2014 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jenny415     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wouldnt dw moon- pluto be the most soul sex? Also i really think mans venus conjunct girls asc would be "sexier" than sun in a aesthetic sense as that is the physical body. Every time he see her its like his own venus coming to life!

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posted July 30, 2014 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MagnumJoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wouldnt dw moon- pluto be the most soul sex? Also i really think mans venus conjunct girls asc would be "sexier" than sun in a aesthetic sense as that is the physical body. Every time he see her its like his own venus coming to life!

I totally agree with the ascendant idea

As for pluto: pluto is to far away to be felt i think. At least for me. Pluto and outer planets lurk around, subtly watching. You don't feel them immediately. But adding itto the combo will entice it of course

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posted July 30, 2014 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WhyMe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Man's Venus on woman's Moon ? How would that work out ?

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