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starrynight
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posted July 29, 2014 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starrynight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I saw this question somewhere but I can't find it.

If there is a potential DW among the aspects, should we or can we make the acceptable orbs a bit wider? Or perhaps we have to be more strict with DW and not less?

For example, I've been interested in Nodes synastry recently and I'm looking at a chart right now.

There is Venus conjunct NN at 1 degree and the other person has Venus conjunct NN at 9 degrees. Normally I wouldn't give a 9 degree conj time of the day unless it concerns luminaries, but here there is a DW and they are in the same sign. Should I make it count?

In another chart, there is a Pluto-Sun conjunction and then a Pluto-Sun sextile which is 5 degrees wide. Normally I'd be like, a Pluto sextile that wide? lol no. But once again, this one completes a DW thing.

What do you think?

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IndigoDirae
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posted July 29, 2014 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do tend to, in the following cases:

• DW where one is 0°-2° orb
• they're also parallel
• it's a very active light (configured, heavily aspected)
• there is an affinity between them (house link, mutual receptivity, same or opposite dwads, antiscia points -- something 'thematic' in nature)

Over time, you'll figure what's best for you. I consider most things under 3° to be very significant, and all 0°-1°30 active. I'll expand orbs with personal planets to 12° for a conjunction in the above instances. I've never considered anything with an orb over that -- in ANY case, and I tend to start getting iffy beyond 6°.

In some cases, though, I really have noted a 9° conjunction to be active. I think this is why:

VENUS conjunct PLUTO (9°)
PLUTO sextile VENUS (1°30)

The VENUS conjunct is n12H, but the conjunction to PLUTO crosses the ASC and overlays 8° into the 1H.

The PLUTO is n12R, and n9H.
The VENUS is Sagittarius dwad, and 9R.

These are what I consider affinities.

The (albeit very wide) synastric conjunction of VENUS and PLUTO shares commonalities of 12H and 9H matters, along with the sign placements of Virgo and Sagittarius (dwad).

A natal 9H PLUTO is going to vibe to a VENUS with a Sagittarius dwad, or carrying Jupiter / 9H energy. Conversely, a 12H VENUS will recognise a kinship in a PLUTO that's 12R of the natal. Since we're dealing with a conjunction, there's always the sign of the conjunction to count as a point of symmetry, too.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted July 30, 2014 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes. At least that's what I do. When you have a mutual aspect, even if one of the aspects is wider in orb, it's not random. It shows that energy in that synastry is important. It also shows this is a relationships with mutual exchanges, mutual feelings.

Stable couples have quite a number of DW between love planets, with various orb ranges.


There is also a difference between aspects.
It is possible a 7 degree orb opposition or conjunction (at least between love planets) is felt stronger and much earlier (and all the time) than a 2 degree sextile or trine.


I wouldn't consider a 9 degree conjunction to the nodal axis. However, if there is a midpoint involved there, there could be connection between NN and Venus. But the nodal axis needs planets much closer to be connected with them. Perhaps 6 is the limit, I'm not sure yet.

About the Pluto/Sun example...there is definitely a Sun/Pluto DW in that chart. Any sextile under 6 is valid, especially with a luminary involved or Venus and Mars.
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