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Topic: planetary geometry (red, blue, gree)
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14410 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 30, 2014 01:42 PM
(Hi Leeloo,I KNEW, you would find your way here. ) Well I just wanted to put that image here. Yes I know I "cheated" using asteroids, but does that image not look beautiful in its geometry?
(all degrees range from 5°-11° of any sign, and most are pretty close to exact) [/URL]
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athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 2112 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted July 30, 2014 02:01 PM
OMG that's incredible! That's an absolutely perfect and complete configuration. I have been reading up on this stuff I can quite understand what it means but it has to do with achieving a high level and ascension. I think in synastry it means twin flame action. IP: Logged |
HappyLoewe Knowflake Posts: 100 From: Registered: Jan 2014
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posted July 30, 2014 02:04 PM
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 8146 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 30, 2014 02:10 PM
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4780 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 30, 2014 02:16 PM
It looks like a jewel I'm mostly impressed by the perfect alignment to the earthly plane (horizontal/vertical axis) A Star of David/Hexagon and a Mutable Cross. You can jump in the middle and spin and spiiin to your heart's content Plus, the blessed interconnection Cross/Kite. ------------------
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14410 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 30, 2014 02:28 PM
Thank you, I am relieved I am not the only one dazzled by that. Though as I said I used the help of some asteroids to find this complete pattern. I already have a Kite (with asteroids) in my own chart. But even though I used the asteroids, I found the NATURE of the asteroids that are part of it interesting. RUDRA and TARA both being the fierce faces of SIVA and PARVATI in Vedic. (our first meeting chart had the Vedic asteroids prominent as wel). Then of course there is EROS and AMOR, two manifestations of the same God, Though one might wonder where the heck is his PSYCHE (well when we met progressed Psyche for both of us was conjunct his eROS on 8 Pisces, and hence had been moving to become part of this configuration). Actually what I did not put into there is that my ISIS and OSIRIS are part of the configuration as well on about 8 capricorn. his ISIS on 9 Gemini sits on my DESC and his KAALI on 6.47 SAg on my ASC, so these are kind of part of it as well. Oh and my name in his chart is on 8 Pisces right on his Eros and my chartruler. his name in his chart is on 10 Virgo on his Amor. A lot going on on these degrees in our comparision. lol
I also realize that his Ceres on 7 Aries and his Osiris on 5 ARies on my IC fall into the area, as well as my Pluto on 9 Libra, my Pallas on 9 Aquarius. I think the only spot missing is about 9-10 Leo. lol But of course I am using asteroids here, and if use enough of these, well you know, it gets easier to find patterns like these.
However, the asteroids I used I found important because either they were of the four major asteroids, or theme-oriented. Here with Rudra, Tara, Eros, Lust, well the theme is relatively easy to see, right?
Add to that the involvement of his Mars and my Venus. my Isis-Osiris-conjunction. His Isis, and with greater orb his Osiris, too. not to mention we have a Sun-Moon-conjunction, though not part of this particular pattern. Interesting how Ceres and Jupiter tie into this as well though. Hmm, I feel I will need to get back to the drawing board eventually. lol
How about you? What patterns do your synastries show? (Personally I do not extend the orb over 5 degrees for major planets and 3 degrees for asteroids, though if there are stellia, it becomes a little silly to cut them off. lol)
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4780 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 30, 2014 02:30 PM
Yep. It's a Tantric configuration ...but one between husband and wife ------------------
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14410 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 30, 2014 02:40 PM
Yeah, my intention was actually to find the "backbone" of our synastry (around the 9 degree range). But I find it impossible to say. Is it the Mars/Jupiter-Jupiter-opposition? Or his Mercury on my ASC opposite my DESC-SN and his Isis even? Or something else entirely? IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4780 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 30, 2014 02:57 PM
There is something interesting with the vertical (Mars Jupiter)...it connects all mutable houses (the mutable cross)...if there's a backbone, I think that's the one. Just a thought though. What really matters, IMO, is the vertical passing through the center (the spinning axis) - in this case the 7th element (because it's basically a hexa structure).Which makes the 7th element the "result" of the structure - metaphorically, it should be reflected in the 7th harmonics (and I'm not surprised, given your Sun/Moon septile ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14410 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 30, 2014 02:58 PM
Say again? what is the 7th element here? I don`t quite follow.
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4780 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 30, 2014 03:15 PM
Let's see if I can explain...what we are looking at here (when we look at charts geometry) is a BI-DIMENSIONAL map, right? But..at least in my view, the purpose of this bi-dimensional mandala is to generate a third dimension element (which is the magical one, the one giving life to a bi-dimensional structure) - a vortex of energy which IMO happens in the center of the structure (an axis passing through that center, like an arrow through the geometric figure). For example, when a Grand Cross is complete, the 5th element can manifest itself (the vertical raising itself from the middle of the structure, the center of the cross).
There is an entire philosophy behind this concept, and I use it with my love mandalas. So every closed structure has a center (especially even numbers, symmetrical structures) and the magical element is the following number - in your case, 7, because the bi-dimensional structure is a hexagon.
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athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 2112 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted July 30, 2014 03:51 PM
The tarot ties into this as well. Started learning from this.https://www.google.com/#q=esoteric+astrology+pdf IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4780 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 30, 2014 04:33 PM
I found some better words lolThe bottom line is: the center of a closed geometrical figure is like a portal. When a geometrical structure is closed, the energy can only move on the vertical. Examples: the Grand Trine - leads to the 4th element (ineffable gifts - talents, psychological characteristics - lead to concrete practical manifestations) the Grand Cross - leads to the 5th element - when the cross of matter is complete, the 5th element, magic, can manifest itself the Hexagon - leads to the 7th element - harmony and love in the material plane leads to the ineffable, a dematerialization, a projection in the astral plane (the sacred marriage in heavens) etc. Yes, athene, the tarot and numerology make connections to sacred geometry too.
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MorpHnStorM Knowflake Posts: 311 From: Registered: Oct 2013
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posted July 30, 2014 05:59 PM
It's funny you posted this today as I'd thought of starting a thread for Sacred Geometry in connection to astro. I've been reading more about sacred geometry lately in relation to the geometric figures in chart comparisons as well. That Grand Hexagon (along with the Grand Cross) is one that keeps popping up consistently in our charts (natals, synastry, composite, and harmonics)...Ex. of 1 Grand Hex. in our gt-Synastry (not including the other asteroids): His Sun-Juno-DC-Ceres His Moon-AC My Moon-IC My MC-Pallas-BML My Venus My Saturn My Jupiter My AC-Vesta/DC Add my Node and we also get a Grand Cross added to this G-Hex: My Node His Sun-DC/AC Ex. of another Grand Cross connected in our gt-Synasry: His Mars His Venus-Uranus His Chiron My Sun My Mars My Vx/AVx
Add his Mercury-Pallas, Vx/Avx, MC-Saturn/IC, Node-BML, Vesta, along with my Mercury, Pholus, Ceres, and Jupiter; we get a "Grand Dodecagon". Most are 0-3 degrees, nothing over 6. There are major asteroid linkages involved in these too, but they are not included here. That's amazing how those geometric patterns are linked in your synastry too... IP: Logged |
Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 2201 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 30, 2014 06:31 PM
Ceri, first things first.How do you draw the lines? As I am keen to show off a pattern.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14410 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 30, 2014 06:57 PM
Thank you AG and LEeloo,yes that makes sense. I actually used the term "portals" myself, but to describe the superposition of several zodiacs, like the Helio, Draco and tropical. Astrokeen, I use paint for this. Well I save the astro.com chart with 00% orb, so no aspect lines are drawn, then open the image n my paint-program, and draw the lines in there. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14410 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 30, 2014 06:59 PM
Morph,I donīt think the geometric patterns are in any way random or coincidental. In fact i think they are the key to synastry. In the very least they show theme complexes. However, I also think, like AG pointed out, that the more coherent and bigger a pattern is, the stronger the interconnectedness is (at least in terms of the interrelated planets) IP: Logged |
Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 2201 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 30, 2014 07:42 PM
Have posted a chart in the other geometry thread but no one is paying any attention there - so here it is:I discovered this pattern completion recently. In addition to the Moon (and Saturn accidentally), it links only Kundalini/Vedic asteroids - I have these in 7 houses at 22 degrees, within an orb of 1 degree either way, whilst he has these in the remaining 5 houses, again at 21/22 degrees. only 1, Parvati, is at 19 degrees in his natal. In my natal these include a grand cross and a mystic rectangle. I may be missing seeing other patterns. Each triangle below includes a combination of both our points, mostly 2 of mine to 1 of his. Sacred Geometry indeed! We have a very pronounced kundalini theme in our composite - from a past life according to iQ. Nothing I would have suspected from present events. So, this 12 star pattern seems to reflects that. I find the configuration magical. It is definitely an unrealised potential in this life/dimension.
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4780 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 31, 2014 09:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by MorpHnStorM: It's funny you posted this today as I'd thought of starting a thread for Sacred Geometry in connection to astro. I've been reading more about sacred geometry lately in relation to the geometric figures in chart comparisons as well. That Grand Hexagon (along with the Grand Cross) is one that keeps popping up consistently in our charts (natals, synastry, composite, and harmonics)...Ex. of 1 Grand Hex. in our gt-Synastry (not including the other asteroids): His Sun-Juno-DC-Ceres His Moon-AC My Moon-IC My MC-Pallas-BML My Venus My Saturn My Jupiter My AC-Vesta/DC Add my Node and we also get a Grand Cross added to this G-Hex: My Node His Sun-DC/AC Ex. of another Grand Cross connected in our gt-Synasry: His Mars His Venus-Uranus His Chiron My Sun My Mars My Vx/AVx
Add his Mercury-Pallas, Vx/Avx, MC-Saturn/IC, Node-BML, Vesta, along with my Mercury, Pholus, Ceres, and Jupiter; we get a "Grand Dodecagon". Most are 0-3 degrees, nothing over 6. There are major asteroid linkages involved in these too, but they are not included here. That's amazing how those geometric patterns are linked in your synastry too...
I'd love to hear your thoughts on sacred geometry, Morph
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 8146 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 31, 2014 10:03 AM
quote: I discovered this pattern completion recently.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14410 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 31, 2014 10:45 AM
Wow! Astrokeen, it is GOBSMACKING. And beautifulIP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14410 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 31, 2014 10:46 AM
Which asteroids did you use?IP: Logged |
Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 2201 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 31, 2014 12:17 PM
@ Cappy, thank you for the tears. So... flattering!@ Ceri, nice ain't it . I tried all the Vedic asteroids after I found the recurrent theme in each house in my natal. There was nothing Kundalini related (though other spiritual asteroids were present, such as Telephus), at 22 degrees in the remaining 5 houses. Then found that my SM had some that completed the pattern. Although one or two weren't quite as close as mine. Mine: Tara-22.19, Hara-21.4, Hanuman-23.16, Mahakala-22.21, Rudra-22.24, Garuda- 22.37, Moon-22.18 His: Kaali: 22.33, Gopalan-22.17, Rudra 19.50, Anand- 20.18 I have quite a bundle in one house (as he does in the 8th) and usually two in some others around 22 degrees: Cap - Ramachandran 21.14 Soma 21.32 Anand 22.15 Mahakala 22°21 Mahalingam 23.57 The SM has a strong Vedic theme in his chart. He has Kaali conjunct Samadhi and Garuda in the 12th. Siva and Balakrishnan conj Asc and so on. All this wonderful astrology makes the parting of ways even more regrettable. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14410 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 31, 2014 01:00 PM
I am interested in the Vedics myself. Especially since after meeting him I was experiencing this really strong startling Kundalini Rising, and the vibration is still there. It was later that I discovered that our first meeting chart had a Siva-Parvati-conjunction plus a Mahakala-Kaali-conjunction, surrounding Mercury in Gemini in 7th house. It seemed more than just a coincidence, but I never REALLY looked up all the Vedic asteroids, cause I don`t quite know all of them. Do you have a list somewhere? IP: Logged |
Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 2201 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 31, 2014 01:06 PM
I am collating info here for the moment: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/003010.html IP: Logged |