posted August 01, 2014 09:35 AM            

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Does having Mars conjunct someone's MC make them notice your Mars more?

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Sorry to rain on your parade but what you currently "love" is his public image...Neptune must be laughing at you. I'm not trying to be mean, I'm actually worried about you. I myself was lost in the fog a couple of times.

posted August 01, 2014 06:04 PM            

I'm not trying to judge you, or question what you feel for him. I'm in the same boat, only not with a celebrity. I certainly don't envy your circumstances. You can't help what you feel for him, but you are clearly trying to convince yourself that this relationship is fated. The fact that you are accepting this may not be romantic is a big step, but I think if you were to meet him, even the slightest hint of interest on his part would have you planning your wedding and naming your children. You've probably already done this, actually.

I've been following your story, and I keep getting this sick feeling that you must be VERY careful of his wife. I think she would cut a B*+€h! She will not sit by while her man leaves her and her children for another woman. If you do end up meeting him, you will not get past her easily. Just saying, because you never seem to mention her or their children, and I'm curious how you intend to handle that?

You're in far too deep to just have an affair, and it's unlikely he's going to leave his family for you. He might even want to have an affair, and I don't think you could resist, which could turn you into a full on bunny boiler before you know it. Even if you try to keep it professional in your charity involvement, this infatuation is going to cause problems. Also, T probably meets at least a dozen women a day that feel the same way you do, so take a number and get in line.

I'm really not trying to come across as negative, and I hope it isn't interpreted that way. It just isn't a situation to enter into lightly, and your infatuation could potentially hurt a lot of people involved. I'm sure it's taken a toll on your marriage and family, feeling like the grass is greener elsewhere. You need to let go of ALL expectations, and accept that it's unlikely that anything romantic or profoundly spiritual will ever happen between you two. I think deep down you are convinced that you will meet, and he will fall in love at first sight with you, and you will be all he ever wanted in a woman. At the very least, you think that you will be one another's spiritual salvation, THIS is still holding onto unrealistic expectations, and is potentially even more dangerous than expecting something romantic. There is just a lot of fantasy involved here, which can cloud your judgement and cause a lot of drama and pain to your family and potentially his.

posted August 01, 2014 07:33 PM              

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Originally posted by Gabby:
WildHorses, please be careful!! Sometimes wishful thinking can make us go crazy.....instead of wishing and hoping for one exact person, wish n hope for the very best person for you instead of thinking you know the best for you allow the universe to bring it to you.

Sometimes you get something better than you could have ever wished for, but when something has absolutely no basis in reality, it can go a very bad way...so please please be careful!

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posted August 01, 2014 08:48 PM            

And especially if Uranus is involved... I have seen strange and curious things. Like that man who went into Starbucks one day, met a woman while waiting for his coffee and 15 minutes later called his wife and said he was filing for divorce. They did not have a strained, problematic marriage. He, however, had Uranus trine Venus on Dcs and he fell for the Starbucks woman hard.

If people never risked anything for love, never reached for stars, they would have settled for the first nice and comfortable person instead of searching for something more. And isn't never knowing worse than trying and failing?

Especially if you actually have some opening, some chance, some platform for action, some actual contact. This isn't just a Neptunian dream anymore. And if he's a celebrity? So what? He's a still a man of flesh and blood. He wants, he loves. You don't have to come across as a madwoman screaming about fate. You can lay a gentle trap and tread softly. Love is a battlefield, after all, and tactics is half of victory. (Damn, that's why some of my girlfriends don't let me meet their bfs.)

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if you want him and you have a way to try it--why not to go for it? Nothing might come out of it. Maybe synastry lies. Maybe astrology lies. Maybe he's too much in love with another woman to feel destiny's pull. Maybe your fate is to be separated this time over. Who knows.

Well, that's my own Venus-Uranus speaking, perhaps, in matters of love I sometimes take off before they even announce the point of destination.

posted August 02, 2014 02:39 PM            

Maybe it stems from the popularity of celebrity synastries, dunno. I feel like synastry is synastry. Of course, there is a difference between discussing an existing relationship, for example looking for the sources of trouble in marriage, and a potential relationship, but... you know how they say a fortune teller is only good when they don't ask questions? That's because they are supposed to be able to give the correct answer without being propped by the knowledge of details and circumstances. That's my feelings about astrology, too. It should work as a pure method, even if we allow the probability to be less than guaranteed.

posted August 03, 2014 01:09 PM              

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Neptune Nutter would make an awesome nickname!

Maybe it stems from the popularity of celebrity synastries, dunno. I feel like synastry is synastry. Of course, there is a difference between discussing an existing relationship, for example looking for the sources of trouble in marriage, and a potential relationship, but... you know how they say a fortune teller is only good when they don't ask questions? That's because they are supposed to be able to give the correct answer without being propped by the knowledge of details and circumstances.

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I tend to see the astrologer more like a guide on understanding one's life patterns/archetypes. It depends on what the client expects from an astrology reading. I think any good fortune teller knows to read a lot about people just by looking at them, and he/she also knows how to pull information in a subtle way, without giving the impression she does

posted August 03, 2014 01:28 PM              

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
What I know is without face to face contact connections like this more likely than not belong in the "it's all in your head" cathegory.

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posted August 03, 2014 01:54 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I don't have a problem with his status. What concerns me is you claiming to be in love with someone you haven't met.

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Say, if I meet some guy at my cousin's wedding and fall for him at first sight, what do I really know about him beyond the way he flirts with a girl at a wedding party and perhaps gossip from some friends who know friends who know friends? Nothing. Okay, so I know him physically, not in the biblical sense yet, but I know the way he smells, the energy he's giving off standing next to me... but he's practically a stranger personality-wise. He might have a thousand secrets. And yet I'm already impassioned, already crushing hard, already wanting to date him.

There aren't many people who'd look at me funny regarding the little story above, but if I said the guy was a celebrity and I've met him randomly while he was signing autographs... oh no, you are crazy, you don't know him. But what's the big technical difference beyond the ease of chasing him after that and the chance of him returning my affections?

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I tend to see the astrologer more like a guide on understanding one's life patterns/archetypes. It depends on what the client expects from an astrology reading. I think any good fortune teller knows to read a lot about people just by looking at them, and he/she also knows how to pull information in a subtle way, without giving the impression she does

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posted August 03, 2014 02:08 PM            

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But doesn't the popular experience of falling in love at first sight often commence without actually knowing the person?

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posted August 03, 2014 02:16 PM              

But I agree we can have a very strong feeling, even at first glance, about people who are meant to be in our lives, like a recognition. But that's different than having a crush on an unknown person.

I guess everyone waits afterwords to know the person, in person, and to form an opinion,to see what it was: was it just liking how he looks? was it perhaps him reminding you of someone you like or would like? Or was it just an illusion? Or you having this need to develop such feelings for someone? Sometimes it's even a bad relationship coming into your life, luring you, a temptation. You simply CAN'T know what it is just by seeing someone on a screen or at a party. Take it from a Venus square Neptune

What do you mean by "precognition" and fortune tellers?

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posted August 03, 2014 03:01 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
It doesn't mean you know the person to say you've fallen in love with them: with what have you fallen in love, about them?

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I'm not saying that you can see a guy and decide to marry him in five minutes flat. But passion, infatuation... at least, to me it's either there to begin with or it isn't. I seem unable to develop it gradually. If I'm not raring to go since the very first contact, I will never have a true crush, it will be affection at best.

It's this "wow" feeling, thunderstruck. I'm not sure it's possible to develop it with a celebrity without a true physical contact, seeing them as a living person. But... you know. Different strokes. Or seeing as we are all about astrology, Venus-Uranus natal contact.

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I guess everyone waits afterwords to know the person, in person, and to form an opinion,to see what it was: was it just liking how he looks? was it perhaps him reminding you of someone you like or would like? Or was it just an illusion? Or you having this need to develop such feelings for someone? Sometimes it's even a bad relationship coming into your life, luring you, a temptation. You simply CAN'T know what it is just by seeing someone on a screen or at a party. Take it from a Venus square Neptune

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Of course, I can't know what it is, but I can know what I want. That's what I mean. I can't know whether a relationship is going to be sweet or stormy or even disastrous, but this yearning--I recognize it when it knocks at my door. I never have those doubts about maybe he reminds me of someone, maybe I like him, maybe I don't, maybe I need to like someone... because if I hesitate, then it's not strong enough, it's not worth developing, to me. This is Sparta! xD

I have Venus square Neptune, too. It's not the tightest aspect, though. The tightest ones are Venus sextile Uranus (0) and Venus conj Jupiter.

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

What do you mean by "precognition" and fortune tellers?

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And another thing about fortune tellers is best explained through an example. I know a person who is a rather famous (in her city, at least) fortune teller. She never asks extra questions. The question will be like: "Will this couple break up in the next few months?" She won't ask anything beyond that, not even their actual names. It can be a celebrity couple, the querent's own marriage, a next door couple, whatever. Her reply is based only on her spread.
I'm wondering if it's a more purist way to treat synastry, too.

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Ahem, that's attraction at first sight

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posted August 03, 2014 03:09 PM              

The whole concept of soul mates in synastry. The idea that if I have awesome synastry with Person X, then we are meant to meet and to be together.

I mean, this is not the concept of soulmates, no serious astrologer, none that I know of, will tell you a great synastry with an unknown person shows you'll meet the person and that you are soulmates. Do you know anyone?

What do you think a purist approach on synastry would be? That's an interesting idea.

posted August 03, 2014 03:31 PM            

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How would you define love at first sight, then? Since "at first sight" literally means an extremely short amount of time has passed.

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because if I hesitate, then it's not strong enough, it's not worth developing, to me. This is Sparta! xD

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posted August 03, 2014 04:56 PM            

All right. It's blunt time.

First of all, I clearly care about you, and this, else I wouldn't really dedicate myself to understanding its destiny. My 'track record' here is rather strong. If I feel something, it tends to be for a reason. You may not be sixteen, but that doesn't mean you aren't falling prey to some 'adolescent aspects'. It can happen at ANY age, and we find these things for important reasons.

Specifically, this is what I'm noticing:

• You're not in a relationship together; in fact, you continue finding excuses to not meet, so you may maintain the illusion of being The Runner.

• You may have a pattern of preferring obsession over deep connexion; possibly even sexual bonding over deep emotional bonding. This man MAY be the catalyst to show you're evolving towards seeking the right sort of relationship. Yes. At 42.

• It matters not a whit to me he's a celebrity -- that's Tuesday in my world. It's the fact there's SO much obsession, and SO much fantasy -- lacking SO much reality. THIS much, THIS fast?