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Ceridwen
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posted August 03, 2014 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did anyone experience this? I mean in their own charts. Their progressed Mars conjunct natal Venus?
If so, what happened? Externally and internally?

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posted August 03, 2014 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I checked and I've never had this...I mean I was a child when it happened

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posted August 03, 2014 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A pretty rare phenomenon I would say as Mars moves approx 45-50 degree in a lifetime (normally).
So Venus in the natal has to be ahead of Mars within those degrees.

I was thinking who could have this.. and then I found it with my dad.

The peak of his pMars/nVenus (Sag) conjunction was in March '62. That was the time he lived in the same student residence as my mom. (Right before the peak - my guess a few months - he must have just finished his military conscription. Probably a big softy in the army )

Apart from the daily small talk they didn't REALLY notice each other at first there, UNTIL.. there was a Hamlet movie (I guess the '48 version) and they were the only 2 students that went to the basement to watch that movie (on tv) WITH... both their Hamlet book at hand! (verrry funny & surpising as they had the exact same intention without knowing it... well, they just noticed each other in the basement)

But unfortunately I don't know exactly when that ^^ happened, and I can't ask it anymore.

But... the REAL spark caught on 2 years after my mom almost died at age 20 ('63) in hospital where my dad visited her with a big bunch of flowers while her current boyfriend who visited her coincidentally at the exact same time had just a poor tiny bouquet in his hand (my mom always talked about this disproportionate contrast .. lol)

And so, early '65 it all truly began..

And well.. yea ofcourse lol, the progressions spoke pretty loud then (well, in fact they already did in the years before as we see below);

His pVenus 7'48 Cap
Her nMars 9'27 Virgo

(^ his natal Venus at 7'38 Sag)


Also early '65;

Progressed Compo Venus/Mars conj (few min. separating only).

His progressed Sun opp. her natal Venus (separ. by 0'40)

Her progressed Venus square his natal Mars (separ. by 2,5)

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posted August 03, 2014 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for olgatheo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have my prog. Mars exactly conj. My natal venus in cancer so themes around cardinal signs would come up with partner or friends ....
For peeps in relationships a very positive and passionate time. ;-)
Creating a family or home together ( cancer ) , a stable partnership or relationship ( libra) , a business ( capricorn ) I find for me more adventure we loved doing activities together ( aries) !!!
I get paid daily through counselling, so for other peeps maybe a job/career that pays daily or weekly.

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posted August 04, 2014 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you for your input. That sounds really interesting.

Also Mir, it seems like both were in play, the preparation through the natal progression, and thent he progressed synastry was taking flight, in the window of opportunity.


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posted August 04, 2014 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leeloo,

like I said, my time flow chart for 2015 looks like this:

I will come back to this after more thought but just for now listing it (only focusing on 4th harmonic aspect):


Right now I have this going on
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background arcs
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august 2013 - august 2014
sa Uranus = n Jupiter
(p february 2014)

this is slowy easing/ gliding into:


february 2014 - february 2015
sa Jupiter = n Vertex
sa Jupiter = n Sun/Moon-mp
(p august 2014)


and then taking over are these arcs:


august/september 2014 - august / september 2015:

sa Venus = n Moon (conjunction)


now things will get really interesting, while sa Venus= n Moon still in play, and actually peaking,


february 2015 - february 2016:

sa NN = n Avx (conjunction)
sa NN = n Sun/Moon-mp (conjunction)
(p august 2015)


but of course some uoh-things happening too


May 2015 - 2016
sa Neptune conj. Avx and Sun/Moon-mp
(p nov 2015)

(plus sa Saturn = true BML p nov 2015)


june 2015 - 2016
sa Mars = n Saturn
(p december 2015)

the lovely spring with sa Jupiter= Vertex and Sun/Moon-mp still in play, and of course sa Venus= Moon and also sa NN= Avx and sa NN= Sun/Moon-mp

slowly leading over in sa Neptune taking over from sa NN and arcing to Avx and Sun/Moon-mp.

And for some conflicting messages sa Mars= Saturn.
Well, could be worse, could be sa Saturn= n Mars. lol

However, I can`t help but notice the prevalence of the lunar symbolism (Moon, Sun/Moon-mp, nodal axis) and now Saturn, and Moon and Saturn are so inseparably linked in my natal chart.


However time will not stand still and this possibly sobering or in a more positive interpretation realistic sa Mars= n Saturn, will finally result in

sa MC= n Moon (AHA, there´s this pesky Moon-symbolism again, here linked to my (social) status, a change. Well if I was in my 20`s and not me but a client, I would probably ask her if she intended to become mother or wife. But we are talking about me, so ...)

Well at least it will be interesting to see what happens.

oh the sa MC= n Moon will be valid during september 2015 - 2016.


so as for background arcs we have:

february 2015:
sa Jupiter= n Vertex
sa Jupiter= n Sun/Moon-mp
sa Venus = n Moon
sa NN= n Avx
sa NN = n Sun/Moon-mp

march 2015:
sa Venus = n Moon
sa NN = n Vertex
sa NN = n Sun/Moon-mp

and then all this building up until


june 2015:
sa Venus = n Moon
sa NN = n Vertex
sa NN = n Sun/Moon-mp
sa Neptune = n Vertex
sa Neptune = n Sun/Moon-mp
sa Mars = n Saturn

and then from september 2015:
sa Venus = n Moon (fading out)
sa NN = n Vertex
sa NN = n Sun/Moon-mp
sa Neptune= n Vertex
sa Neptune = n Sun/Moon-mp
sa Mars = n Saturn
sa MC= n Moon (fading in)


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posted August 04, 2014 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


BTW the sa MC= n Moon will be the LAST solar arc picture forming with my chart for many years.

Nothing else in terms of solar arcs until 2018, when in august of 2018 my sa DESC Will be conjunct n Vertex and the Sun/moon-mp axis.


Of course I will have some other things happening, like in november 2017 my pr Mars conjunct n Venus will peak, as well as pr Moon first opposing natal Juno (exactly on my birthday that year!) and then a few weeks later pr Moon also opposes pr Jupiter.


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posted August 04, 2014 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Leeloo,

like I said, my time flow chart for 2015 looks like this:

I will come back to this after more thought but just for now listing it (only focusing on 4th harmonic aspect):


Right now I have this going on


You must tell me if it's a thematic wedding in time

Your Moon in 2nd rules your 8th, so it's definitely about this axis. Saturn being connected to that in your own chart, yes, it's like a "return". Something important is bound to happen regarding Moon/Saturn symbolism.

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posted August 04, 2014 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I think so, too, I just hope it will be enither death nor taxes

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posted August 04, 2014 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so much for the thematic background:

oh I forgot I am just fading out of

sa DESC conjunct natal Saturn. lol
Was exact in february, and about the same time my pr Moon was conjunct natal Saturn.


under the company of Tr Saturn squaring natal Moon (and trining natal Saturn) in november 2013, june 2014, august 2014.


LOL

I just realized

Tr Saturn was square n Moon on 30th november 2013
Just a week after I had the little chat with mr Sag; it was actually a really good day, not at all depressing. lol


then next time Tr Saturn was square natal Moon on 26th june 2014,
not even 2 weeks after that concert, where he made this comment, I talked about.


and now Tr Saturn will be square natal Moon on 13th august, just 10 days before the concert with the following barbequeue will take place.


How weird this timing is!


Well I cannot say anything about the future,b ut for the last two occasions, I would say I worked with Saturn much beter than in recent years (usually when it was touching my Moon, I was majorly depressed), this time around it seems I was more, I don`t know, in touch with reality, maybe?
Or reality getting in touch with me?

I mean I surely learned something from these two occasions. lol


But all in all I think it was a far better Saturn-experience than I have ever had in my life before.


And what a SAturnian year that was!
With the solar arcs, progressions and transits all shooting arrows on my poor poor loner Saturn.

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posted August 04, 2014 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
as for specific triggers:
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august 2014:
Tr Saturn square n Moon


october 2014:
Tr Jupiter opposite n Moon

lunar ecclipse on 15 Aries:
square my n Saturn with one degree,
conjunct my Draco Sun

(oh and of course opposite composite pluto on 15 Libra and square composite Venus on 16 Capricorn)


Tr Neptune square n Mars (could do without THAT one, keep that Neptune away from me for once!!!!)


just 2 days before I will go onto another concert, there will be a solar ecclipse on 00 Scorpio.
This is interesting for me in so far as it is within a degree of my Uranus on my 11th house cusp


December 2014
pr Moon square n Uranus (exact on my birthday!)

just taking over from the ecclipse on my n Uranus (pr Moon will be just in orb when that ecclipse hits. So two strikes on my Uranus)

Tr Node square n Saturn
Tr Neptune square n mars
Tr NN conjunct n PoF


pr Moon will bwe then square pr Uranus in january 2015

february 2015:
Tr Jupiter opposite n Moon
Tr Neptune square n ASC


March 2015:
Tr Chiron conjunct n Juno (Magi astrology ? )
Tr Uranus oppospite n PoF (having reached the degree of the october ecclipse and thus activating the composite Pluto and composite Venus)

(with the sa Venus= n Moon peaking this month)


April 2015
not even a week later, lunar ecclipse on 14 Libra on my POF (and composite Pluto)


Tr Uranus square n Saturn
(and I would count the lunar ecclipse, too, still under 2 degrees)

may 2015

pr Moon opposite pr Sun
(reminds me of what Orange wrote, and is just so timely, right?)

of course this would be valid in april and june as well.


Tr NN conjunct n Pluto is a biggie as well.

so really from march to june, well that timeframe looks shocking. lol

June 2015
Tr Jupiter opposite n Moon
Tr NN square n Venus
Tr Uranus conjunct n Chiron (culmination aspect according to the Magi. lol)

July 2015:
Tr NN conjunct n MC


August 2015:
Tr Jupiter opposite n Bml
tr Saturn square n Bml
Tr Uranus conjunct n Chiron


september 2015:
Solar ecclipse on 20 Virgo, exactly square my n Sun/Moon-mp

Tr Jupiter square n Mars
Tr Jupiter square n ASC
Tr Jupiter square n Neptune
Tr Jupiter square n NN

at the end of the month
lunar ecclipse on 4 Aries,
on my IC exact and still squaring my Venus (and trine my Mars, but that is not 4th harmonic)


october 2015:
Tr Jupiter opposite n Jupiter


november 2015:
Tr Neptune square n ASC
Tr Jupiter opposite n Juno
Tr saturn conjunct n Mars
Tr Chiron conjunct n Juno
Tr Uranus square n Saturn
Tr Saturn conjunct n ASC

December 2015:

pr Moon opposite n Moon.
(I need to look it up, looks significant, halfterm?

pr Moon square pr MC
(a first taste of sa MC= n Moon?)

Tr Neptune square n ASC
Tr Chiron conjunct n Juno
Tr Saturn conjunct n Neptune
Tr Saturn conjunct n NN
Tr NN square n Sun


Well that will be my 2015.

2016 looks like sh*t. STarting in march with Tr pluto opposing n Saturn. Don`t want that, and the last hit will be in 2017.
I am not going to need this crap while Tr Saturn is transiting my ASc, Neptune, NN and so on. Nah, not even looking there. lol


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