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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 04, 2014 07:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His symbols are the arrow and torch, "because love wounds and inflames the heart."


I love Cupido. I think the common astrological interpretation ( a superficial love/approach to love) is contaminated by puritanistic Christianity, which transformed Cupido in a symbol of temptation, empty lust and vice.

The myth of Cupido is much more complex and the triad Eros-Cupido-Amor depicts the facets of the primordial god of love, the male version of the Great Goddess of Love (Ishtar Inanna Hathor Aphrodite Venus and their counterparts in other cultures)

I think in the chart Cupido shows the place where we receive and send the arrow of love, a point where we are initiated and initiate in the tribulations of love, along with Eros (an elevated experience of physical love and transformation connected to general love for life - what Freud called Libido - Eros as opposed to Thanatos) and Amor ( a place in the chart where we experience true love, just as Cupido-Eros-Amor discovered with Psyche). It's that first part of love, the arrow piercing the heart, when we discover a strong infatuation and desire for another. Cupido connected in synastry shows what planet/asteroid of the other sends an "arrow" to our heart, over and over again, what makes us fall infatuated with them over and over again, what we find fresh and enticing about them, even after a long time. A soft spot we have with them. It has an Uranian vibe - permanent, but intermittent.

At the same time, Cupido in our chart shows when and how we do that to others. The position by house and sign shows what is always fresh about us when it comes to attracting others. For example, a 3rd house Cupido shows we can be a permanent source of delight for our partners through our way of expressing words. The aspects our Cupido makes show where and with what we have an ageless appeal to lovers, our "arrows".

Why fresh and permanent? Because Cupido is a boy who never grows up, always ready to provoke infatuation, to start love from the beginning.

Not to forget Cupido has two types of arrows: "one with a sharp golden point, and the other with a blunt tip of lead". The golden tip makes us fall in love "with uncontrollable desire", the lead tip fills us with aversion. So Cupido in synastry could also be a symbol of unrequited love.

Cupido is strongly aspected in long-term couples.


In classical mythology, Cupid (Latin Cupido, meaning "desire") is the god of desire, erotic love, attraction and affection. He is often portrayed as the son of the love goddess Venus, and is known in Latin also as Amor ("Love"). His Greek counterpart is Eros.[1]

Although Eros appears in Classical Greek art as a slender winged youth, during the Hellenistic period, he was increasingly portrayed as a chubby boy. During this time, his iconography acquired the bow and arrow that represent his source of power: a person, or even a deity, who is shot by Cupid's arrow is filled with uncontrollable desire. In myths, Cupid is a minor character who serves mostly to set the plot in motion. He is a main character only in the tale of Cupid and Psyche, when wounded by his own weapons he experiences the ordeal of love. Although other extended stories are not told about him, his tradition is rich in poetic themes and visual scenarios, such as "Love conquers all" and the retaliatory punishment or torture of Cupid.

In art, Cupid often appears in multiples as the Amores, or amorini in the later terminology of art history, the equivalent of the Greek erotes. Cupids are a frequent motif of both Roman art and later Western art of the classical tradition. In the 15th century, the iconography of Cupid starts to become indistinguishable from the putto.

Cupid continued to be a popular figure in the Middle Ages, when under Christian influence he often had a dual nature as Heavenly and Earthly love. In the Renaissance, a renewed interest in classical philosophy endowed him with complex allegorical meanings. In contemporary popular culture, Cupid is shown drawing his bow to inspire romantic love, often as an icon of Valentine's Day.[2]

Origins and birth
A Red-Figure Plate with Eros as a youth making an offering. (c. 340-320 BC) Walters Art Museum, Baltimore.

The Romans reinterpreted myths and concepts pertaining to the Greek Eros for Cupid in their own literature and art, and medieval and Renaissance mythographers conflate the two freely. In the Greek tradition, Eros had a dual, contradictory geneaology. He was among the primordial gods who came into existence asexually; after his generation, deities were begotten through male-female unions.[3] In Hesiod's Theogony, only Chaos and Gaia (Earth) are older. Before the existence of gender dichotomy, Eros functioned by causing entities to separate from themselves that which they already contained.[4]

At the same time, the Eros who was pictured as a boy or slim youth was regarded as the child of a divine couple, the identity of whom varied by source. The influential Renaissance mythographer Natale Conti began his chapter on Cupid/Eros by declaring that the Greeks themselves were unsure about his parentage: Heaven and Earth,[5] Ares and Aphrodite,[6] Night and Ether,[7] or Strife and Zephyr.[8] The Greek travel writer Pausanias, he notes, contradicts himself by saying at one point that Eros welcomed Aphrodite into the world, and at another that Eros was the son of Aphrodite and the youngest of the gods.[9]


In Latin literature, Cupid is usually treated as the son of Venus without reference to a father. Seneca says that Vulcan, as the husband of Venus, is the father of Cupid.[10] Cicero, however, says that there were three Cupids, as well as three Venuses: the first Cupid was the son of Mercury and Diana, the second of Mercury and the second Venus, and the third of Mars and the third Venus. This last Cupid was the equivalent of Anteros, "Counter-Love," one of the Erotes, the gods who embody aspects of love.[11] The multiple Cupids frolicking in art are the decorative manifestation of these proliferating loves and desires. During the English Renaissance, Christopher Marlowe wrote of "ten thousand Cupids"; in Ben Jonson's wedding masque Hymenaei, "a thousand several-coloured loves … hop about the nuptial room".[12]

In the later classical tradition, Cupid is most often regarded as the son of Venus and Mars, whose love affair represented an allegory of Love and War.[13] The duality between the primordial and the sexually conceived Eros accommodated philosophical concepts of Heavenly and Earthly Love even in the Christian era.[14]


Attributes and themes
A blindfolded, armed Cupid (1452/66) by Piero della Francesca

Cupid is winged, allegedly, because lovers are flighty and likely to change their minds, and boyish because love is irrational. His symbols are the arrow and torch, "because love wounds and inflames the heart." These attributes and their interpretation were established by late antiquity, as summarized by Isidore of Seville (d. 636 AD) in his Etymologies.[15] Cupid is also sometimes depicted blindfolded and described as blind, not so much in the sense of sightless—since the sight of the beloved can be a spur to love—as blinkered and arbitrary. As described by Shakespeare in A Midsummer Night's Dream (1590s):[16]
Cupid sculpture by Bertel Thorvaldsen

Love looks not with the eyes, but with the mind
And therefore is winged Cupid painted blind.
Nor hath love's mind of any judgement taste;
Wings and no eyes figure unheedy haste.
And therefore is love said to be a child
Because in choice he is so oft beguiled.[17]

In Botticelli's Allegory of Spring (1482), also known by its Italian title La Primavera, Cupid is shown blindfolded while shooting his arrow, positioned above the central figure of Venus.[18]

Particularly in ancient Roman art, cupids may also carry or be surrounded by fruits, animals, or attributes of the Seasons or the wine-god Dionysus, symbolizing the earth's generative capacity.[19]


Cupid's arrows

Cupid carries two kinds of arrows, one with a sharp golden point, and the other with a blunt tip of lead. A person wounded by the golden arrow is filled with uncontrollable desire, but the one struck by the lead feels aversion and desires only to flee.

The use of these arrows is described by the Latin poet Ovid in the first book of his Metamorphoses. When Apollo taunts Cupid as the lesser archer, Cupid shoots him with the golden arrow, but strikes the object of his desire, the nymph Daphne, with the lead. Trapped by Apollo's unwanted advances, Daphne prays to her father, the river god Peneus, who turns her into a laurel, the tree sacred to Apollo. It is the first of several unsuccessful or tragic love affairs for Apollo.[20]

A variation is found in The Kingis Quair, a 15th-century poem attributed to James I of Scotland, in which Cupid has three arrows: gold, for a gentle "smiting" that is easily cured; the more compelling silver; and steel, for a love-wound that never heals.[21]


Cupid and the bees
Cupid the Honey Thief, by Lucas Cranach

In the tale of Cupid the honey thief, the child-god is stung by bees when he steals honey from their hive. He cries and runs to his mother Venus,[22] complaining that so small a creature shouldn't cause such painful wounds. Venus laughs, and points out the poetic justice: he too is small, and yet delivers the sting of love.

The story was first told about Eros in the Idylls of Theocritus (3rd century BC).[23] It was retold numerous times in both art and poetry during the Renaissance. The theme brought the Amoretti poetry cycle (1595) of Edmund Spenser to a conclusion,[24] and furnished subject matter for at least twenty works by Lucas Cranach the Elder and his workshop.[25] The German poet and classicist Karl Philipp Conz (1762–1827) framed the tale as Schadenfreude ("taking pleasure in someone else's pain") in a poem by the same title.[26] In a version by Gotthold Ephraim Lessing, a writer of the German Enlightenment, the incident prompts Cupid to turn himself into a bee:

Through this sting was Amor made wiser.
The untiring deceiver
concocted another battle-plan:
he lurked beneath the carnations and roses
and when a maiden came to pick them,
he flew out as a bee and stung her.[27]

The image of Cupid as bee is part of a complex tradition of poetic imagery involving the flower of youth, the sting of love as a deflowering, and honey as a secretion of love.[28]
Cupid and dolphins

In both ancient and later art, Cupid is often shown riding a dolphin. On ancient Roman sarcophagi, the image may represent the soul's journey, originally associated with Dionysian religion.[29] A mosaic from late Roman Britain shows a procession emerging from the mouth of the sea god Neptune, first dolphins and then sea birds, ascending to Cupid. One interpretation of this allegory is that Neptune represents the soul's origin in the matter from which life was fashioned, with Cupid triumphing as the soul's desired destiny.[30]

In other contexts, Cupid with a dolphin recurs as a playful motif, as in garden statuary at Pompeii that shows a dolphin rescuing Cupid from an octopus, or Cupid holding a dolphin. The dolphin, often elaborated fantastically, might be constructed as a spout for a fountain.[31] On a modern-era fountain in the Palazzo Vecchio, Florence, Italy, Cupid seems to be strangling a dolphin.[32]

Dolphins were often portrayed in antiquity as friendly to humans, and the dolphin itself could represent affection. Pliny records a tale of a dolphin at Puteoli carrying a boy on its back across a lake to go to school each day; when the boy died, the dolphin grieved itself to death.[33]

In erotic scenes from mythology, Cupid riding the dolphin may convey how swiftly love moves,[34] or the Cupid astride a sea beast may be a reassuring presence for the wild ride of love.[35] A dolphin-riding Cupid may attend scenes depicting the wedding of Neptune and Amphitrite or the Triumph of Neptune, also known as a marine thiasos.


Demon of fornication

To adapt myths for Christian use, medieval mythographers interpreted them morally. In this view, Cupid might be seen as a "demon of fornication".[36] The innovative Theodulf of Orleans, who wrote during the reign of Charlemagne, reinterpreted Cupid as a seductive but malicious figure who exploits desire to draw people into an allegorical underworld of vice.[37] To Theodulf, Cupid's quiver symbolized his depraved mind, his bow trickery, his arrows poison, and his torch burning passion. It was appropriate to portray him naked, so as not to conceal his deception and evil.[38]


Sleeping Cupid
Bronze Cupid Sleeping on a lion skin (1635-40), signed F, based on the marble attributed to Praxiteles

Cupid sleeping became a symbol of absent or languishing love in Renaissance poetry and art, including a Sleeping Cupid (1496) by Michelangelo that is now lost.[39] The ancient type was known at the time through descriptions in classical literature, and at least one extant example had been displayed in the sculpture garden of Lorenzo de' Medici since 1488.[40] In the 1st century AD, Pliny had described two marble versions of a Cupid (Eros), one at Thespiae and a nude at Parium, where it was the stained object of erotic fascination.[41]

Michelangelo's work was important in establishing the reputation of the young artist, who was only twenty at the time. At the request of his patron, he increased its value by deliberately making it look "antique",[42] thus creating "his most notorious fake".[43] After the deception was acknowledged, the Cupid Sleeping was displayed as evidence of his virtuosity alongside an ancient marble, attributed to Praxiteles, of Cupid asleep on a lion skin.[44]

In the poetry of Giambattista Marino (d. 1625), the image of Cupid or Amore sleeping represents the indolence of Love in the lap of Idleness. A madrigal by his literary rival Gaspare Murtola exhorted artists to paint the theme. A catalogue of works from antiquity collected by the Mattei family, patrons of Caravaggio, included sketches of sleeping cupids based on sculpture from the Temple of Venus Erycina in Rome. Caravaggio, whose works Murtola is known for describing, took up the challenge with his 1608 Sleeping Cupid, a disturbing depiction of an unhealthy, immobilized child with "jaundiced skin, flushed cheeks, bluish lips and ears, the emaciated chest and swollen belly, the wasted muscles and inflamed joints." The model is thought to have suffered from juvenile rheumatoid arthritis.[45] Caravaggio's sleeping Cupid was reconceived in fresco by Giovanni da San Giovanni, and the subject recurred throughout Roman and Italian work of the period.[46]


Caravaggio's Amor Vincit Omnia
Love Conquers All

Earlier in his career, Caravaggio had challenged contemporary sensibilities with his "sexually provocative and anti-intellectual" Victorious Love, also known as Love Conquers All (Amor Vincit Omnia), in which a brazenly naked Cupid tramples on emblems of culture and erudition representing music, architecture, warfare, and scholarship.[47]

The motto comes from the Augustan poet Vergil, writing in the late 1st century BC. His collection of Eclogues concludes with what might be his most famous line:[48]

Omnia vincit Amor: et nos cedamus Amori.
Love conquers all, and so let us surrender ourselves to Love.[49]

The theme was also expressed as the triumph of Cupid, as in the Triumphi of Petrarch.[50]

What are your Cupido aspects in natal and synastry and how do you feel those?

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Sorry, but it was self-defense

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OMG What have you done?????????

You murderous wretch!

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I couldn't trust a naked toddler that wanted to force me to fall in love

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He didn't make any sense to me anyway

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WOW, I love this essay! Saved it in my astro archives for future reference.

I didn't notice Cupid but he seems to play a big role in my chart:

on my 6th house cusp (my love house)
oppose Mars 1
square Neptune 0
trine Aphrodite 0

Hey I have Zeus conjunct Here 2, I'm your greek version

On a side note, I'm worried for my Mars being too naughty: conjunct Lust 1 in 11th, conjunct Eros 4, opposite Cupido 1. Am I in the danger zone as Cappy's C.?

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On a side note, I'm worried for my Mars being too naughty: conjunct Lust 1 in 11th, conjunct Eros 4, opposite Cupido 1. Am I in the danger zone as Cappy's C.?

Maybe your Mars is naughty but you apparently can handle him

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Thank you. Finally someone else sees it my way, too.

I remember a discussion on this, though I think Indigo was sharing our opinion as well.


I personally LOVE my Cupido on 19 Leo in my 8th house.
I am totally smitten with his Sabian symbol:

"Zuni Indians Perform A Ritual To The Sun"


Did I mention it s in Leo? In 8th house?


It is also closely trine my Chiron, and I think it is a BLESSING, Chiron having a rather exhausting opposition to my DNA/SAPPHO/MUSA/KASSANDRA/WHATEVER in Libra, squaring my Eros/Saturn/Vertex and Sun/Moon-mp.
being in a Hammer with Mars and Vertex and so on.

So the trine of Cupido to this Chiron, all in fire, it feels like an infusion of warmth in all of that.

I do not have a planet on 20 Sagittarius, though it is more than interesting that my PROSERPINA is on 21 Sag, and we all remember what role Cupido played in THAT myth?
Right? oesn`t it make you want to look up Pluto?
Nah, my Pluto is far away.

Oh and my Cupido is also closely contraparallel my Psyche (0°07).


yes, I totally adore my Cupido. He`s my hero.

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posted August 04, 2014 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love my Pisces Cupido in the 7th house trine Chiron, sextile Saturn, NN and Mars, square Mercury, opposite Pallas and quintile Neptune! Not

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I have it in the 3rd Libra (a permanent source of delight ), semisextile Vesta exact and sextile BML/Pallas.

And it has a lovely Sabian:

(LIBRA 26°): AN EAGLE AND A LARGE WHITE DOVE CHANGE INTO EACH OTHER.

KEYNOTE: The interaction of the spiritual Will and of the Love principle when critical needs arise.

You said 'Cupido connected in synastry shows what planet/asteroid of the other sends an "arrow" to our heart, over and over again, what makes us fall infatuated with them over and over again, what we find fresh and enticing about them, even after a long time. A soft spot we have with them. It has an Uranian vibe - permanent, but intermittent.

Well, the soft spot is spot on! We have Cupido/Valentine DW - trine and square. Could very well be permanent in whichever form and decidedly intermittent.

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speaking of the Pluto/Proserpina-myth with the help of Cupido...


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my Cupido 19.54 Leo

my Sappho 22.06 Libra
his Pluto 21.23 Libra
his Anteros 22.20 Libra
his Spirit 19.16 Libra

my Proserpina 21.02 Sag
his Neptune 20.27 Sag
his Cupido 21.39 Sag

(my Moon 17.06 Aquarius)
my Atropos 19.48 Aquarius

my Chiron 20.02 Aries

my Eros 20.59 Cancer
my Vertex 21.28 Cancer

(my Sun/Moon-mp on 21.31 Cap-Cancer-axis)


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quote:
Originally posted by Tulipe:
WOW, I love this essay! Saved it in my astro archives for future reference.

I didn't notice Cupid but he seems to play a big role in my chart:

on my 6th house cusp (my love house)
oppose Mars 1
square Neptune 0
trine Aphrodite 0

Hey I have Zeus conjunct Here 2, I'm your greek version

On a side note, I'm worried for my Mars being too naughty: conjunct Lust 1 in 11th, conjunct Eros 4, opposite Cupido 1. Am I in the danger zone as Cappy's C.?


Thank you

Hm look at the naughty Mars...hot hot. Hot is good

Well, I think your secret "arrows", your Cupid tricks are:
- your cooking (6th house)
- your sexiness and determination - your Mars
- square Neptune could mean you have a practical talent which is a real love arrow: do you sing? or paint? this is very attractive to others, whatever it is
- and of course, your beauty - Aphrodite

Cupido in Libra means your pleasant diplomatic caring and elegant behavior with people, your gentleness, your manners and your beauty are very attractive to others and can make someone fall in love with you over and over again.

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If Cupido is in Leo in my 8th house, does that mean I am a queen? of the underworld possibly?

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Thank you. Finally someone else sees it my way, too.

I remember a discussion on this, though I think Indigo was sharing our opinion as well.


I personally LOVE my Cupido on 19 Leo in my 8th house.
I am totally smitten with his Sabian symbol:

"Zuni Indians Perform A Ritual To The Sun"


Did I mention it s in Leo? In 8th house?


It is also closely trine my Chiron, and I think it is a BLESSING, Chiron having a rather exhausting opposition to my DNA/SAPPHO/MUSA/KASSANDRA/WHATEVER in Libra, squaring my Eros/Saturn/Vertex and Sun/Moon-mp.
being in a Hammer with Mars and Vertex and so on.

So the trine of Cupido to this Chiron, all in fire, it feels like an infusion of warmth in all of that.

I do not have a planet on 20 Sagittarius, though it is more than interesting that my PROSERPINA is on 21 Sag, and we all remember what role Cupido played in THAT myth?
Right? oesn`t it make you want to look up Pluto?
Nah, my Pluto is far away.

Oh and my Cupido is also closely contraparallel my Psyche (0°07).


yes, I totally adore my Cupido. He`s my hero.


Thank you for your appreciation, Ceri.

I think Cupido in Leo and 8th house shows a very ardent nature in love. It shows strong infatuations, but on a deep, transformative level.

It also shows your shiny, but also your devoted nature and your depth in love is very attractive for others and can have a transformative impact on them.

Learning to express feelings in a Leonine fashion and to receive the same feelings from others must be an important love lesson for you.

This is enhanced by the connection with Chiron: the healing power of expressing the above.

I'm also thinking with Chiron here one secret love weapon you have is bringing awareness to others in a gentle, harmonious manner, specific for a trine.


The connection with Proserpina is very interesting and it also enhances the above: the moment of falling in love, the act of infatuation must have a powerful transformative effect on you, leading you to confront things below the surface and it also gives seductive power on others.


Any connection between Cupido/Amor/Eros and Psyche in the natal is a symbol for the archetype of the LOVER: a person who can live and inspire love on a deep level, combining desire, attraction with soulful love.

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Oh I have cupido in libra as well. It conjuncts my IC, my Pluto, squares my asc in cancer, widely trines my mars in the 11th, sextiles my sag neptune in the 5th, semi-sextiles scorp Uranus in the 4th, opposites my MC in Aries and Ceres, trines acqua Psyche in the 8th and trines Amor in gemini in the 11th house,

I have no clue how to interpret that

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I love my Pisces Cupido in the 7th house trine Chiron, sextile Saturn, NN and Mars, square Mercury, opposite Pallas and quintile Neptune! Not


IMO, Cupido in the 7th is a placement for people who don't enter into relationships unless they are in love or feel infatuated. I have it there myself and I've found it in charts of people with this behavior.

Cupido in Pisces attracts the others with her gentle, compassionate nature and with her artistic or spiritual abilities. She may have something etherical, otherworldly about her which is very attractive to others and doesn't fade with age.

The trine with Chiron shows this person abilities to teach and heal and create awareness are a veritable "arrow" of love.

What other secret weapons you have that make you irresistible?

sextile Saturn - your serious, committed nature, the fact that we can count on you
sextile Mars - well, you're sexy and dynamic, your body
I think sextile NN shows some falling in love scenario will play some part in your destiny at some point
square Mercury - your sharp tongue and your propensity to speak your mind and tell the truth is actually quite attractive
opposite Pallas - lovely placement! everything Pallas means is your secret love weapon
quintile Neptune - your creative/spiritual nature

As you can see, you have many arrows in your quiver

By projection, we are also "love stricken" by similar characteristics in the others

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
If Cupido is in Leo in my 8th house, does that mean I am a queen? of the underworld possibly?

Without a doubt
But your Cupido, Ceri, is making an entire story there, a veritable Palace. It relates to a veritable theme of femininity: your Aqua Moon is very attractive to people, to the opposite sex! Sappho and Proserpina are there too, and the connection to Psyche, they all say your femininity is your strongest weapon when it comes to "shooting at hearts"

I'll check the synastric aspects later.

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My scorpio Cupido is conjunct 0-2 degrees Kaali/Lilith/Pandora/Uranus/Pythia/Minerva in 2nd house all square Saturn

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Maybe your Mars is naughty but you apparently can handle him


Haha, I keep him in tight reins, hallelujah for Mars square Saturn.

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"It shows strong infatuations, but on a deep, transformative level."
Yes, that is very true.

How uncapricornian for a Cappy-Venus. lol


"the moment of falling in love, the act of infatuation must have a powerful transformative effect on you, leading you to confront things below the surface and it also gives seductive power on others."

Yes, that is very true. I somehow can`t fall "just" in love, it always seems to be more, I don´t know, transformative.
Of course I also have Venus conjunct ISIS and OSIRIS and widely conjunct SPIRIT and all of them square Pluto.
Venus as ruler of 5th house, is doubly indicative of the falling in love-theme. Saturn, as dispositor (and secondary 5th house ruler), leading back into Cancer and 8th house, conjunct EROS and Vertex on the Sun/Moon-mp axis. Yes, I`d say that is certainly a theme.


And Mr Sag`s Pluto seems to perfectly fit into this with being exactly square to my ERos-Vertex and Sun/Moon-mp and at the same time exactly sextile my Cupido as well as my Proserpina.

Interestingly his Pluto is conjunct my DNA, and my Proserpina is conjunct his DNA.

It`s not love, it`s not infatuation, it`s not attraction, it must be genetic.

The composite enhancing this by Venus being conjunct Proserpina in 12th house and both squaring Pluto at the end of the 8th house.


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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Without a doubt
But your Cupido, Ceri, is making an entire story there, a veritable Palace. It relates to a veritable theme of femininity: your Aqua Moon is very attractive to people, to the opposite sex! Sappho and Proserpina are there too, and the connection to Psyche, they all say your femininity is your strongest weapon when it comes to "shooting at hearts"

I'll check the synastric aspects later.


Yeah but my feminity seems to be very Aquarian.

I just find it so funny, even though not conjunct, but so many in Aquarius


Pallas 10 Aquarius
Moon 17 Aquarius
Psyche 24 Aquarius
mean Lilith 24 Aquarius
true Lilith 28 Aquarius
(even Nefertiti is on 27 Aquarius, and Ubasti/Bastet is on 15 Aquarius. lol)

Also strikingly enough, Pallas, Moon, Psyche and mean Lilith are all exactly 7 degrees of each other, putting Moon on the Psyche/Pallas-mp and the Pallas/Lilith one, too.

Using true LIlith, it is rather ATROPOS on 19 Aquarius ending up on the Pallas/Lilith-mp.

Nothing to do with Pluto, but there are some feminine asteroids in the mid degrees of Air signs.


We have Pallas at 10 Aqua, Moon at 17 Aqua, Ubasti at 15 Aqua (and Mr sag`s Sappho at 13 Aqua, I must be quite inspiring to the man My ASC is on his Musa, my Sappho on his Pluto-Anteros, my Moon loosely on his Sappho and more, and actually our helio composite Venus and progressed tropical composite Venus are both on 13 Aquarius, right on his Sappho as well.)


But then there is also APHRODITE on 13 Libra
and
KAALI on 12 Gemini, INANNA on 12 Gemini and ASTARTE on 10 Gemini

I mean, Aphrodite, Astarte, Inanna?
And Ishtar is on 8 Pisces, part of the Kite (well, two kites) with my CERES, Jupiter, Hekate, HOrus, Rudra, asteroid LILITH, VENUS, ISIS, Osiris, TARA, Lucifer?
And PERSEPHONE is hanging around at 13 Virgo, not quite part of the Kite, but still rather close to her mom Ceres on 9 Pisces, and of course Daddy Jupiter on 11 PIsces is there with his Greek counterpart on 9 Pisces.

Well, sometimes my chart does not look like a chart, but a tablet for an Antique tragedy by Euripides or Sophokles.


Where are Oidipus and Antigone and Iocaste, one might start to wonder?


EDIT:
Funny enough ANTIGONE is on 14 Leo
Her cowardice sister (or socially compatible) Ismene is on 14 Virgo.

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posted August 04, 2014 01:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Thank you

Hm look at the naughty Mars...hot hot. Hot is good

Well, I think your secret "arrows", your Cupid tricks are:
- your cooking (6th house)
- your sexiness and determination - your Mars
- square Neptune could mean you have a practical talent which is a real love arrow: do you sing? or paint? this is very attractive to others, whatever it is
- and of course, your beauty - Aphrodite

Cupido in Libra means your pleasant diplomatic caring and elegant behavior with people, your gentleness, your manners and your beauty are very attractive to others and can make someone fall in love with you over and over again.


Mars in Aries, thank you ladies and gentlemen lol.

I tend to censore the tricks you spoke of, don't know why, but I will cook/entice/sing/draw for someone only when intimate bond was made. Otherwise I let them believe I don't have any skills lol. Cupid tricks for me is somehow a private thing, maybe it's the 6th house at work.

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posted August 04, 2014 01:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LeeLoo,

I think this thread has great material for the Ref Library.
Have pieced this info from what you've suggested above. If you could fill in a blank or two....

A Guy
Cupido in Gemini in 8th house:
Able to love deeply. Not sure about Gemini.

Grand Trine with Chiron and Adonis (0)
Chiron - could be healed by expressing his love or in turn teach and heal and create awareness
Adonis - ?

Semi sextile Alma
Someone who can inspire love at a soul level.

Sextile Ambrosia
er....will inspire love that will be like divine nectar or drug like - a long shot here!

Square Mercury/Vishnu
Ability to be truthful and honest is attractive

All your interpretations seem very accurate to me.

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posted August 04, 2014 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for la_mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my cupido in scorpio completes a grand water trine in my natal with venus/jupiter and in synastry it sextiles his sun exact and is conjunct uranus, while his cupido conjunct my pluto, plus his eros trines my sun/moon 0-1° orb. hurray?

but leeloo you also said that sometimes cupido is about unrequited love? any more info on that?

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