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Topic: Help me understand please
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viiv28 Knowflake Posts: 91 From: kaspichan Registered: Jun 2014
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posted August 07, 2014 08:10 PM
So I am investigating two interesting relationships in my life.In one I am madly in love with the person, who "cares for me deeply", but I feel he is not in love with me, which is why I left him, but still suffer. Which asteroids should I check for this dynamic? What we have and is strong is: his moon opp my sun 0 orb his sun on my desc 0 orb His sun my neptune 0 orb his mars on my moon 0 orb his saturn trine my asc 0 orb also others, but not in such close orbits. However what could explain the obsessive component and the unrequitted love component? The other relationship is with my boss, who is obsessive yet mean to me. There we have many many aspects. Some of the more interesting ones are Pluto square venus 0 orb venus south node 0 orb double wammy with venus opposing sun
What impressed me is the following aspect between me and my boss: Nessus (his) opposing my Dejanera <2 degrees orb. Can someone comment on this particular aspect? Does it indicate simply abuse from his side to me? Can it be transformed into something else? How negative is this aspect and how can I deal with it? Thanks very much to all who respond IP: Logged |
GemBird82 Knowflake Posts: 159 From: Female bird from France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted August 07, 2014 09:00 PM
Hi.Basic astrology can explain this pretty well my friend. These aspects are enough to make you feel the way you do. ======================= his moon opp my sun 0 orb his sun on my desc 0 orb ======================= Astrology has many things on its beautiful side, but there are some 'things' that many people do not mention, because they don't like it or they just SKIP IT because it's easier. Let's remember that our 7th house do not tell us only about our ideal partner, but our OPENED enemies. So, in some cases, the possibilities of having a Love-Hate relationship with our partner (DSC)is quite high. Yes, there are many objects that tell us about negative personal/external influences with our partner. Like Dejanira(157), Nessus(7066), Nemesis(128), Ophelia(171), Medea(212), Medusa(149), Prey(6157), Sado(118230), etc. While they might be helpful, believe me, there's no a special reason to focus on the 'dark side' of astrology, nobody should, it's not wise. Because, it's like a Karmic trap, while doing that you are only attracting negativeness to your inner-self and also creating a bad habit of deceiving negative-self talking. Focus on harmony and beauty. Leave the pain and other issues behind. There's a nice article on iQ's web about Soul Mate tips. You should check it out Here it is. http://www.tamsoft.co.in/soulmates.html ~ Have a Good Day. ------------------ ~Il n'est rien de réel que le rêve et l'amour~ IP: Logged |
amelia28 Moderator Posts: 3801 From: AC conjunct Jupiter-Uranus Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 07, 2014 09:18 PM
This needs to be moved to Interpersonal. You will get a lot more feedback. Wait till a mod moves it.IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 4387 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 07, 2014 09:31 PM
Moved for more responses!! IP: Logged |
viiv28 Knowflake Posts: 91 From: kaspichan Registered: Jun 2014
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posted August 08, 2014 02:35 AM
GemBird, thanks, but I was especially curious about asteroid influences and how strong their influence is since I do not know much about that aspect of astrology.I am not by choice focusing on the dark side, trust me. Both relationships are very nontypical for me and very unpleasant(i would say painful, but I am very good at numbing my feelings) in different ways. And i am under the influence of them both at the same time. For sure classical astrology explains alot, since there are strong aspects which show these dynamics but I was wondering if astroids also play a role. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 5001 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 08, 2014 07:51 AM
An unrequited or abusive relationship will already be seen in the planetary aspects (and mostly the lack of them). Once you determine the dynamics of these aspects and realize how they reflect the unrequited or abusive relationship, you can move on to asteroids, which will show you some additional clues, and how their energy plays out in the context of that synastry . But, IMO, the asteroids do not offer the ANSWER to a synastry, their interpretation depends on the planetary synastry. For example, you're looking at a synastry between an abuser (rapist) and his victim. You see aspects showing potential violence/inferiority complex/childhood abuse in the man's natal chart and some violence aspects between him and the victim in their synastry. You also see his Venus conjunct her ASC exact and asteroid Eros on her Mars or his Valentine conjunct her Venus.
Obviously, in this context, these placements and the asteroids Eros, Valentine etc. take a gruesome connotation. Or, let's say you have a great planetary synastry showing a potential beautiful love relationship. Checking the asteroids, you discover Nessus conjunct Dejanira. It is most likely they will benefit from the "good" part of this myth: Nessus thinks Dejanira is so beautiful that he would "kidnapp" her, in his mind or perhaps as a role play between them, rather than losing her. It is very unlikely their relationship will be abusive just based on this conjunction. This is just my personal opinion/experience with asteroids. ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
viiv28 Knowflake Posts: 91 From: kaspichan Registered: Jun 2014
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posted August 08, 2014 10:08 AM
Thank you dearest LeeLoo! This does make sense, that the asteroids take on the energy of the general chart. I also firmly believe that the different aspects in the synastries also take on the energies that exist in the natal charts of the two people. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 5001 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 08, 2014 12:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by viiv28: I also firmly believe that the different aspects in the synastries also take on the energies that exist in the natal charts of the two people.
Exactly! good point. You're welcome ------------------
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