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Venusincap89
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posted August 10, 2014 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Synastry Charts

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posted August 11, 2014 04:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any thoughts on
-Venus opp Mars Synastry
-Mars conjunct pluto synastry
-Mars conjunct North node synastry?
And so on?

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posted August 11, 2014 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 11, 2014 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chiemi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, I haven't forgotten! I'll look now.

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posted August 11, 2014 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Chiemi:
Sorry, I haven't forgotten! I'll look now.

yayyyyy
thank youuu

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posted August 11, 2014 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MiaPluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find it hard to read the astro.com charts.

I'm more used to the astrotheme.com ones.

You can generate it there without registration and use the BBcode (you don't even need photobucket).

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posted August 11, 2014 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chiemi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can see some attraction but I can't 100% judge the potential of your charts since I'm kind of a noob lol, but I'll just post my thoughts. The only major things that I notice are that there doesn't seem to be much natal-composite aspects, her natal Moon is conjunct Composite Sun and your natal Moon/Venus midpoint widely conjunct Composite Sun. Based on your natal chart, I also think that you might prefer harsher aspects to your Moon in synastry than softer since that energy is more comfortable to you. You also have Mars square Mars and Venus square Venus which might cause attraction at first but may not really work in the long run, your natal Mars and Venus don't really make hard aspects in your natal so over time I don't know if you'd like that energy.

Some random good things I noticed:

- Your 5th/7th/8th house rulers fall in her 4th house and also make nice aspects to her Venus.

- Her 5th house ruler falls in your 8th, and her 8th house ruler falls in your 1st. Her romantic house rulers also make aspects to your Venus- Neptune is conjunct, Saturn is sextile, and Mars is quincunx your Venus.

- You both have mutual Moon in 7th

- You both also have a nice number of synchronicities/complements:

Your Moon in Aries in 9th
- She has Moon square Mars
- Her Sun is square her natal Mars

Your Venus in Cap in 6th:
- She has Venus semi square Saturn
- Her Mars falls in her 12th

Her Sun in Gemini in 9th
- Your Sun in Sagittarius
- Your Moon square Mercury

Overall I think it's ok, I don't see danger but I'm not sure this is your ideal match (again, I'm not an expert on this lol).

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posted August 11, 2014 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chiemi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Venusincap89:
Any thoughts on
-Venus opp Mars Synastry
-Mars conjunct pluto synastry
-Mars conjunct North node synastry?
And so on?

From my experience Venus opposite Mars is definitely an attraction aspect but it can cause a love-dislike/hate kind of feeling between two people. The orbs are a bit wide though in the charts between you two to be considered an aspect.

Since you're a Scorpio Mars with natal Mars conjunct Pluto, I think you'd be fine and probably prefer having this aspect in synastry since you're familiar with the energy.

Not sure I see a close Mars/NN aspect but in general it's a really nice aspect. Ive had this aspect with friends and as the Mars, I often help/motivate the NN person move toward their NN path.

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posted August 11, 2014 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chiemi:
Based on your natal chart, I also think that you might prefer harsher aspects to your Moon in synastry than softer since that energy is more comfortable to you.

Some random good things I noticed:

- Your 5th/7th/8th house rulers fall in her 4th house and also make nice aspects to her Venus.

- Her 5th house ruler falls in your 8th, and her 8th house ruler falls in your 1st. Her romantic house rulers also make aspects to your Venus- Neptune is conjunct, Saturn is sextile, and Mars is quincunx your Venus.

- You both have mutual Moon in 7th

- You both also have a nice number of synchronicities/complements:

Your Moon in Aries in 9th
- She has Moon square Mars
- Her Sun is square her natal Mars

Your Venus in Cap in 6th:
- She has Venus semi square Saturn
- Her Mars falls in her 12th

Her Sun in Gemini in 9th
- Your Sun in Sagittarius
- Your Moon square Mercury

Overall I think it's ok, I don't see danger but I'm not sure this is your match (again, I'm not an expert on this lol)


Yes, I agree. although I say I want nice things, i came to realize that I secretly enjoy mean girls (hence the need for harsh aspects like you have suggested)
That's a really good news for me though, because you are suggesting that she does offer comfortable energy for me
So i guess, if things get going, it will really come down to how well I remind myself of just how rough it was out there xD

can you also please expand on the points that you've made? (thank you so muchh)
-'Your 5th/7th/8th house rulers fall in her 4th house and also make nice aspects to her Venus.'
-'Her 5th house ruler falls in your 8th, and her 8th house ruler falls in your 1st.'

and is the fact that I like mean girls the only reason you came to conclude that she may not be the one for me?

oh and thank you so much I sincerely appreciate your insights

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posted August 11, 2014 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chiemi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Venusincap89:
Yes, I agree. although I say I want nice things, i came to realize that I secretly enjoy mean girls (hence the need for harsh aspects like you have suggested)
That's a really good news for me though, because you are suggesting that she does offer comfortable energy for me
So i guess, if things get going, it will really come down to how well I remind myself of just how rough it was out there xD

can you also please expand on the points that you've made? (thank you so muchh)
-'Your 5th/7th/8th house rulers fall in her 4th house and also make nice aspects to her Venus.'
-'Her 5th house ruler falls in your 8th, and her 8th house ruler falls in your 1st.'

and is the fact that I like mean girls the only reason you came to conclude that she may not be the one for me?

oh and thank you so much I sincerely appreciate your insights


Oh no, I didn't mean you liked mean girls lol! It's just the energy that you subconsciously look for, a person who has hard aspects to your moon can still be nice.

And yes, you have a lot in her 4th which is can create a homey feeling.

What I meant by the 5th/7th/8th house ruler part is that your 5th house ruler Jupiter, 7th house ruler Uranus and 8th house ruler Neptune fall in her 4th and also make either a trine or sextile aspect to her Venus (which is a love planet).

Her 5th/7th/8th house rulers are Saturn, Neptune, and Mars and they also nice aspect your Venus too for the most part, her Neptune conjunct your Venus, her Saturn sextile your Venus and her Mars quincunx your venus.

And no, it has nothing to do with mean girls lol, from what I've seen I find that most couples (for the long term) have some kind of Composite to Natal action going on and I didn't really see that from the composite you posted. But again, I'm not the most versed in relationship charts so I could be wrong lol.

And no problem! Glad I could help !

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posted August 12, 2014 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahhh I see! ! Thank you Chiemi!!

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posted August 12, 2014 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The VENUS conjunct URA is stronger than the MARS conjunct PLUTO. What are the orbs?

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posted August 12, 2014 02:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
The VENUS conjunct URA is stronger than the MARS conjunct PLUTO. What are the orbs?

Um how do i find out the orbs...? :'(
please tell me and i ll do it

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posted August 12, 2014 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok so, so far we only had one date
and she's already mentioning having kids and marriage quiet often....
is this a red flag or a good thing? :s

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posted August 12, 2014 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 12, 2014 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
The VENUS conjunct URA is stronger than the MARS conjunct PLUTO. What are the orbs?

Venus Conjunction MC Orb 1°01'
Uranus Conjunction Venus Orb 2°04'
Neptune Conjunction Venus Orb 2°53'
Jupiter Conjunction Sun Orb 3°32'
Pluto Conjunction Mars Orb 6°35'
Node Opposite MC Orb 1°26'
Lilith Opposite Mars Orb 2°20'
Mercury Opposite Sun Orb 2°41'
MC Opposite Sun Orb 4°18'
Sun Opposite Mars Orb 7°36'
AS Square Sun Orb 1°09'
Chiron Square Sun Orb 4°36'
Mars Square Mars Orb 5°38'
Saturn Trine Mars Orb 0°27'
AS Trine Saturn Orb 1°26'
Venus Trine Uranus Orb 1°29'
Mars Trine Mercury Orb 1°37'
Sun Trine Venus Orb 1°55'
Node Trine Jupiter Orb 3°01'
AS Trine Neptune Orb 3°06'
Jupiter Trine AS Orb 3°10'
Lilith Trine Venus Orb 3°20'
Moon Trine Jupiter Orb 4°52'
Pluto Trine Moon Orb 5°15'
Venus Trine Neptune Orb 5°19'
Venus Trine Mercury Orb 5°54'
Moon Sextile Uranus Orb 0°46'
Pluto Sextile Venus Orb 0°54'
Node Sextile Uranus Orb 1°04'
AS Sextile Pluto Orb 2°03'
Venus Sextile Jupiter Orb 2°36'
Chiron Sextile Mars Orb 2°36'
Neptune Sextile Mars Orb 2°47'
Mercury Sextile AS Orb 3°03'
Moon Sextile MC Orb 3°17'
Moon Sextile Mercury Orb 3°37'
Chiron Sextile Pluto Orb 3°42'
MC Sextile AS Orb 3°56'
Uranus Sextile Moon Orb 4°06'
Sun Sextile Moon Orb 4°14'
MC Inconjunction Neptune Orb 0°01'
Mars Inconjunction Venus Orb 0°02'
Sun Inconjunction Mercury Orb 0°19'
Node Inconjunction Moon Orb 0°54'
MC Inconjunction Saturn Orb 1°42'
Mercury Inconjunction Pluto Orb 1°48'
Uranus SemiSquare Sun Orb 0°02'
Mars SesquiQuadrate Saturn Orb 0°28'
AS SesquiQuadrate Venus Orb 0°56'
Lilith SesquiQuadrate Neptune Orb 1°09'
Sun SesquiQuadrate Saturn Orb 2°25'
Saturn Quintile Neptune Orb 0°02'
Chiron Quintile Jupiter Orb 0°24'
Mercury Quintile Moon Orb 1°37'
Mars BiQuintile Moon Orb 0°12'
Jupiter BiQuintile MC Orb 0°57'
Sun BiQuintile Uranus Orb 1°55'
Uranus SemiSextile Mercury Orb 0°28'
Pluto SemiSextile Mercury Orb 0°41'
Jupiter SemiSextile Neptune Orb 0°44'
AS SemiSextile AS Orb 0°48'
Jupiter SemiSextile Saturn Orb 0°55'
Moon SemiSextile Moon Orb 0°56'
Venus SemiSextile Moon Orb 1°19

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posted August 13, 2014 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am definitely going to take a look at this when I get home tonight!

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posted August 13, 2014 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by amelia28:
I am definitely going to take a look at this when I get home tonight!

Oh Amelia!! thank you so much!!
but update is that she also has a lot of red flagss...
Although, I think she maybe the closest one I had to most harmonious chemistry (we have a lot in common and it seems she's very emotionally mature for a 19 year old girl)

she has Sun opposite Pluto, so she has a very controlling father.
and.... apparently she's forced to report him on everything so she even told him about how we kissed and all
it sounds like father is so far a little uncomfortable, they want me to see me already and we only had one date
oh and father made it very clear to her that we are not to make love. They are hardcore Christians and they believe in abstinence

yeah so there's that

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posted August 13, 2014 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Venusincap89:
Oh Amelia!! thank you so much!!
but update is that she also has a lot of red flagss...
Although, I think she maybe the closest one I had to most harmonious chemistry (we have a lot in common and it seems she's very emotionally mature for a 19 year old girl)

she has Sun opposite Pluto, so she has a very controlling father.
and.... apparently she's forced to report him on everything so she even told him about how we kissed and all
it sounds like father is so far a little uncomfortable, they want me to see me already and we only had one date
oh and father made it very clear to her that we are not to make love. They are hardcore Christians and they believe in abstinence

yeah so there's that


LOL

Well I do like the composite is conducive to something serious and lasting.

If she is worth it you should go for it. Gain the parents trust. Just bc they want her to wait till she gets married doesn't mean she will but she will make you wait till she knows you will be around for some time probably till she knows you have fallen for her.

I met my ex at the age of 19, a month before I turned 19 at a club and my mom met him on my first date. I made him wait about 3 months. We were super in love. My parents wanted me to wait till I got married but I had other ideas. Maybe I should have made him wait a year, I know he would have waited but I really wanted to be with him.

If you are not that into her then drop it yes~! Do you feel strong fireworks??

Any vertex contacts?

Based on the luminaries contacts with each other and venus-mars contacts with each other I feel you should not go for it. The composite is great but I don't feel the synastry is mind blowing although nice enough.

Unless there are some interesting asteroid contacts to planets and 9th harmonic to natal patterns plus some nice draco to natal aspects synastry wise I would say all that trouble is not worth it. If there were no red flags as you call it I would tell you to go for it.

What are your eros/psyhe aspects with each other as well? or eros and psyche to planets?

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posted August 13, 2014 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
LOL

Well I do like the composite is conducive to something serious and lasting.

If she is worth it you should go for it. Gain the parents trust. Just bc they want her to wait till she gets married doesn't mean she will but she will make you wait till she knows you will be around for some time probably till she knows you have fallen for her.

I met my ex at the age of 19, a month before I turned 19 at a club and my mom met him on my first date. I made him wait about 3 months. We were super in love. My parents wanted me to wait till I got married but I had other ideas. Maybe I should have made him wait a year, I know he would have waited but I really wanted to be with him.

If you are not that into her then drop it yes~! Do you feel strong fireworks??

Any vertex contacts?

Based on the luminaries contacts with each other and venus-mars contacts with each other I feel you should not go for it. The composite is great but I don't feel the synastry is mind blowing although nice enough.

Unless there are some interesting asteroid contacts to planets and 9th harmonic to natal patterns plus some nice draco to natal aspects synastry wise I would say all that trouble is not worth it. If there were no red flags as you call it I would tell you to go for it.

What are your eros/psyhe aspects with each other as well? or eros and psyche to planets?


she has eros in pisces, while I have eros in Capricorn
As for psyche, she has it in Taurus, while I have it in Aquarius
I tried to visit Astro.com but I only found stuff like lilith, I couldn't find Eros or Psyche
as for vertex contacts,, how do i get that?
and as for the whole waiting, I think she has other ideas as well but the problem is she comes from a very religious background
on top of that, she is very open with her parents. particularly her father
she told me that she made a promise to her dad that she would be abstinent, and it feels like I am kind of in her way as a devil's fruit or something

Due to her mars in 12th, I assume that she will be exposed to sexual activities sooner or later but I just don't want to be the one to do that.. it feels so wrong
she also told me that she was raped as a child so...
problem goes very deep deep

I did get to say hi to her mother today, but I could tell by her body language that she was very uncomfortable. She was avoiding eye contact, and handshake was as nice as it got for her

but yeah other than her parents and her religious background, no red flags. We have a lot in common
lol sorry for rumbling on

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posted August 14, 2014 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
she has eros in pisces, while I have eros in Capricorn
As for psyche, she has it in Taurus, while I have it in Aquarius
I tried to visit Astro.com but I only found stuff like lilith, I couldn't find Eros or Psyche
as for vertex contacts,, how do i get that?
and as for the whole waiting, I think she has other ideas as well but the problem is she comes from a very religious background
on top of that, she is very open with her parents. particularly her father
she told me that she made a promise to her dad that she would be abstinent, and it feels like I am kind of in her way as a devil's fruit or something

Due to her mars in 12th, I assume that she will be exposed to sexual activities sooner or later but I just don't want to be the one to do that.. it feels so wrong
she also told me that she was raped as a child so...
problem goes very deep deep

I did get to say hi to her mother today, but I could tell by her body language that she was very uncomfortable. She was avoiding eye contact, and handshake was as nice as it got for her

but yeah other than her parents and her religious background, no red flags. We have a lot in common
lol sorry for rumbling on


Here are some directions: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/003510.html

Once you do this go to the bottom of the extended chart selection page.

Were it says additional objects highlight vertex, juno and lilith.

Then at the very bottom click on the link that reads Asteroid name in blue, a window will pop up. Once this happens press down control and F and search box will appear in the bottom left of your screen. You then type eros, psyche and any asteroid you want and check each off. You can check up to 10 at a time.

Try and let me know if you get stuck!

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